Must everything on this forum involve APE?? Some of you are obsessed. Go back to your echo chamber.

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Anonymous wrote:APE derangement is so insane. Get over it. APS isn't doing this because APE wants it or Youngkin asked schools to do it. Teachers want it, entire countries, and Blue states are banning them. Away for the day is good for kids. Period.

Youngkin wants a total ban. APE wants a total ban. Most teachers and parents not APE want a good thought out policy that will disallow phones during instructional time minus those who need it for health management.

Most kids use phones responsibly, outside of the classroom. The ones who won't shouldn't ruin it for the rest of them.

If they’re using their phone responsibly and outside of class, what exactly is the issue?!

Many are not. They are bullying kids, taking photos in bathrooms, not participating in class, and so on. Teachers cannot compete with phones. And with no policy there’s no enforcement to back up teachers.

Oh, I’m on your side. That was in response to the parent who feels their responsible child is being punished.

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Anonymous wrote:APE derangement is so insane. Get over it. APS isn't doing this because APE wants it or Youngkin asked schools to do it. Teachers want it, entire countries, and Blue states are banning them. Away for the day is good for kids. Period.

Youngkin wants a total ban. APE wants a total ban. Most teachers and parents not APE want a good thought out policy that will disallow phones during instructional time minus those who need it for health management.

Most kids use phones responsibly, outside of the classroom. The ones who won't shouldn't ruin it for the rest of them.

If they’re using their phone responsibly and outside of class, what exactly is the issue?!

Many are not. They are bullying kids, taking photos in bathrooms, not participating in class, and so on. Teachers cannot compete with phones. And with no policy there’s no enforcement to back up teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:APE derangement is so insane. Get over it. APS isn't doing this because APE wants it or Youngkin asked schools to do it. Teachers want it, entire countries, and Blue states are banning them. Away for the day is good for kids. Period.

Youngkin wants a total ban. APE wants a total ban. Most teachers and parents not APE want a good thought out policy that will disallow phones during instructional time minus those who need it for health management.

Most kids use phones responsibly, outside of the classroom. The ones who won't shouldn't ruin it for the rest of them.

What do you mean by total ban?

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Anonymous wrote:I actually don't mind phones in the classroom as long as kids aren't goofing off on them. Taking pictures of slides is a lot easier on a phone than an iPad or computer. And I don't want my kids to be Luddites when they grow up. Like it or not, computers and devices are our future and we should all learn how to use these tools responsibly.

This whole thread consists of people on their devices too, so there's that.

That’s cute. First year teacher? When are they not goofing off on the phones? I don’t think that kids are not going to learn how to use technology if they don’t have their phones at school. Do you really believe that?

Spoken like a person who doesn’t respect teachers… APE doesn’t send out their best people.

I’m not in APE. Do you hate that group so much that you will disagree with them on any and everything- even when they’re right? They are right this time. I’m a teacher (and a parent) in Arlington and I 100% fully support a ban on phones in our schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually don't mind phones in the classroom as long as kids aren't goofing off on them. Taking pictures of slides is a lot easier on a phone than an iPad or computer. And I don't want my kids to be Luddites when they grow up. Like it or not, computers and devices are our future and we should all learn how to use these tools responsibly.

This whole thread consists of people on their devices too, so there's that.

That’s cute. First year teacher? When are they not goofing off on the phones? I don’t think that kids are not going to learn how to use technology if they don’t have their phones at school. Do you really believe that?

Spoken like a person who doesn’t respect teachers… APE doesn’t send out their best people.

There is clearly a market for school allowed “pager phones” that can send quick messages and make phone calls. That would allay a lot of the concerns of the apron string parents, and reduce the distraction in the classroom since these would be boring bricks.

Apple Watch is almost that, but too expensive and too many features.

Apple used to be big on education; making a classroom compliant family communicator (so it could be blue message bubbles) would be a compromise.

Anonymous wrote:I actually don't mind phones in the classroom as long as kids aren't goofing off on them. Taking pictures of slides is a lot easier on a phone than an iPad or computer. And I don't want my kids to be Luddites when they grow up. Like it or not, computers and devices are our future and we should all learn how to use these tools responsibly.

This whole thread consists of people on their devices too, so there's that.

That’s cute. First year teacher? When are they not goofing off on the phones? I don’t think that kids are not going to learn how to use technology if they don’t have their phones at school. Do you really believe that?

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Anonymous wrote:APE derangement is so insane. Get over it. APS isn't doing this because APE wants it or Youngkin asked schools to do it. Teachers want it, entire countries, and Blue states are banning them. Away for the day is good for kids. Period.

Youngkin wants a total ban. APE wants a total ban. Most teachers and parents not APE want a good thought out policy that will disallow phones during instructional time minus those who need it for health management.

Most kids use phones responsibly, outside of the classroom. The ones who won't shouldn't ruin it for the rest of them.

If they’re using their phone responsibly and outside of class, what exactly is the issue?!

I actually don't mind phones in the classroom as long as kids aren't goofing off on them. Taking pictures of slides is a lot easier on a phone than an iPad or computer. And I don't want my kids to be Luddites when they grow up. Like it or not, computers and devices are our future and we should all learn how to use these tools responsibly.

This whole thread consists of people on their devices too, so there's that.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m an APS HS teacher - not at Wakefield with the pilot program - and I don’t see how this new policy changed things at all. We’ve always said phones should be away for the day. We’ve never been able to back that with consequences. Admin has told me I’m not allowed to take phones. In my class, I will continue to ignore most phone use until I can have admin back me on stricter rules.

Who told you that? You clearly aren't at YHS because that is not the case here.

lol you must be new to YHS then

Anonymous wrote:APE derangement is so insane. Get over it. APS isn't doing this because APE wants it or Youngkin asked schools to do it. Teachers want it, entire countries, and Blue states are banning them. Away for the day is good for kids. Period.

Youngkin wants a total ban. APE wants a total ban. Most teachers and parents not APE want a good thought out policy that will disallow phones during instructional time minus those who need it for health management.

Most kids use phones responsibly, outside of the classroom. The ones who won't shouldn't ruin it for the rest of them.

Anonymous wrote:APE derangement is so insane. Get over it. APS isn't doing this because APE wants it or Youngkin asked schools to do it. Teachers want it, entire countries, and Blue states are banning them. Away for the day is good for kids. Period.

OK, so APE wants it, but they're wrong and want it for the wrong reasons, and are going to regret it. But also APS is doing it, but definitely not because APE pushed for it, but because of all the teachers and blue states who are doing it, and who are totally doing it for all the correct, good and noble reasons, which APE somehow doesn't share. Do I have that right?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no current "cell-phone reality" because APS hasn't even had their first day at school.

But I will tell you what will happen. Admin/teachers will do their best to make sure kids don't have their phones and then give up because those kids have parents who spoil them and think they are not the problem when the absolutely are.

And APE parents will continue to harp on banning cellphones entirely until the first lockdown when they will complain that nobody had the phones to call mom and dad.

The APEs also may change their tune when their kids hit high school and they realize how different it is.

My oldest is in 8th grade and I support a full bell-to-bell cell phone ban. I am unclear on why I would want that changed when my kid was in high school. If anything when the academic stakes are higher, I think I will feel it is even more important for phones to be banned. And the last thing I want during a school shooting is some kids phone ringing and telling the shooter where everyone is -- the risk of that (while very small) is not zero and thus not worth any potential benefit of being able to text my kid. My kids middle school had a lockdown and my kid did not have a phone at the time and if anything being phoneless made it easier -- we did not have to worry about going back to the school later to get his phone and the teachers made phones available to the kids to call home. It was really NBD that kids did not have their phones.

APE derangement is so insane. Get over it. APS isn't doing this because APE wants it or Youngkin asked schools to do it. Teachers want it, entire countries, and Blue states are banning them. Away for the day is good for kids. Period.