Anonymous
Post 07/19/2024 08:41     Subject: Are $500k+ jobs really that common?
Anonymous wrote:sure, if you look at a $500k income nationwide, it is impressive and rare. In DC/NY/SF it's not terrible uncommon in certain zip codes.

Here are some avg incomes for zip codes in Bethesda/CC:

"The average household income ($321,268) for 20816 is less than the average household income for 20817 ($325,502), 22101 ($360,494), Brookmont CDP ($434,332), and Somerset town ($419,599)"

In Somerset or Brookmont, you are just above avg at 500k.


That’s HHI. Not individual incomes. Even in those zip codes.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2024 04:40     Subject: Are $500k+ jobs really that common?
I have a $500K+ total comp attorney job in big pharma and it is a walk in the park… I am not in management and there are many other roles like me in the org, most with great work life balance and wonderful colleagues.

We did all put in our big law years but now it seems almost too easy. I guess if we stayed in big law we could be making multiples of $500K but I’d rather have my current situation any day.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2024 01:59     Subject: Are $500k+ jobs really that common?
Anonymous wrote:sure, if you look at a $500k income nationwide, it is impressive and rare. In DC/NY/SF it's not terrible uncommon in certain zip codes.

Here are some avg incomes for zip codes in Bethesda/CC:

"The average household income ($321,268) for 20816 is less than the average household income for 20817 ($325,502), 22101 ($360,494), Brookmont CDP ($434,332), and Somerset town ($419,599)"

In Somerset or Brookmont, you are just above avg at 500k.


Nice try with with word twisting..

https://www.incomebyzipcode.com/maryland/20816

The median household income ($228,311) for 20816 is less than the median household income for 20817 ($231,292), 22101 ($250,001), Brookmont CDP ($250,001), and Somerset town ($250,001). But it's more than 20016 ($169,489), 20812 ($194,375), 20815 ($185,873), Montgomery County ($125,583), Bethesda CDP ($185,546), and Glen Echo town ($194,375)."

And "$250,001" means this data isn't actually accurate.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2024 00:14     Subject: Are $500k+ jobs really that common?
Anonymous wrote:500k base is very rare, even in DC. This would be big law attorneys at the higher levels (like 8th-year associate, partners etc), doctors in higher-paying specialties (basically surgeons, or surgeon adjacent like derms who do lots of Mohs), and the VPs at the big companies like Capital One, the pharma companies, etc. Even people who are senior directors at these places aren't getting a 500k base but probably get over that amount with their bonus and stock. My husband is a function leader assistant GC at a big pharma company and his base is low 300s, but gets like 150k in restricted stock that vests after xx years and we cannot really touch. The DMV has lots of families making 300k each for the base, which is a high HHI obviously.


But a $350k plus job is not a 40 hour week job usually, right. So very hard for two of these and run a household with kids.

One earner making $500k is way more sustainable.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 20:16     Subject: Are $500k+ jobs really that common?
We get to that level of compensation from bonus structure, not from salary.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 20:12     Subject: Are $500k+ jobs really that common?
500k base is very rare, even in DC. This would be big law attorneys at the higher levels (like 8th-year associate, partners etc), doctors in higher-paying specialties (basically surgeons, or surgeon adjacent like derms who do lots of Mohs), and the VPs at the big companies like Capital One, the pharma companies, etc. Even people who are senior directors at these places aren't getting a 500k base but probably get over that amount with their bonus and stock. My husband is a function leader assistant GC at a big pharma company and his base is low 300s, but gets like 150k in restricted stock that vests after xx years and we cannot really touch. The DMV has lots of families making 300k each for the base, which is a high HHI obviously.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 14:28     Subject: Are $500k+ jobs really that common?
To summarize:

A HHI of $500k is much more common than an individual salary/bonus of $500k.

High salaries and HHI are common in wealthy zip codes, but those zip codes are not representative of the metro area.

High salaries are concentrated in the very professions that OP excluded.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 13:37     Subject: Are $500k+ jobs really that common?
If you exclude all the categories of jobs that have the highest comp, then no--making $500k is not common.

But in the real world, in any major metro area tens of thousands of people have the types of jobs you are choosing to ignore.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 13:36     Subject: Are $500k+ jobs really that common?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have also become aware that there are lots of jobs that sound really impressive but actually don’t pay that well at all. Directors of museums, historic homes, university librarians, heads of art galleries, curators, head of fundraising for a symphony. Director of a prestigious private school, head of a think tank, or a prestigious center at a university.

I remember initially meeting a lot of people in DC who had what I considered high powered jobs and in some cases looking them up to find that they pay peanuts.


Because they have very different values than you.

Not everyone is primarily motivated by money (and many of us have minimal respect for those who are…)


Many of us have minimal respect for people who don’t realize that most people need their salaries to pay their bills.

If you actually have $500k in bills a year, you either have a rare medical condition and no insurance, or you are spending money on things you don’t “need.”
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 13:07     Subject: Are $500k+ jobs really that common?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have also become aware that there are lots of jobs that sound really impressive but actually don’t pay that well at all. Directors of museums, historic homes, university librarians, heads of art galleries, curators, head of fundraising for a symphony. Director of a prestigious private school, head of a think tank, or a prestigious center at a university.

I remember initially meeting a lot of people in DC who had what I considered high powered jobs and in some cases looking them up to find that they pay peanuts.


Because they have very different values than you.

Not everyone is primarily motivated by money (and many of us have minimal respect for those who are…)


Many of us have minimal respect for people who don’t realize that most people need their salaries to pay their bills.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 13:00     Subject: Are $500k+ jobs really that common?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:sure, if you look at a $500k income nationwide, it is impressive and rare. In DC/NY/SF it's not terrible uncommon in certain zip codes.

Here are some avg incomes for zip codes in Bethesda/CC:

"The average household income ($321,268) for 20816 is less than the average household income for 20817 ($325,502), 22101 ($360,494), Brookmont CDP ($434,332), and Somerset town ($419,599)"

In Somerset or Brookmont, you are just above avg at 500k.


Yes but a lot of that is bonus money. Even most attorneys in the DC area do not have a 500k+ base.


This is household income so there is no way to know if it is one or two spouses contributing.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 12:56     Subject: Are $500k+ jobs really that common?
Anonymous wrote:its average in dc and close in zip code


Lol no. The median HHI doesn’t come close to this even in the wealthiest zip codes
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 12:55     Subject: Are $500k+ jobs really that common?
Anonymous wrote:I have also become aware that there are lots of jobs that sound really impressive but actually don’t pay that well at all. Directors of museums, historic homes, university librarians, heads of art galleries, curators, head of fundraising for a symphony. Director of a prestigious private school, head of a think tank, or a prestigious center at a university.

I remember initially meeting a lot of people in DC who had what I considered high powered jobs and in some cases looking them up to find that they pay peanuts.


Because they have very different values than you.

Not everyone is primarily motivated by money (and many of us have minimal respect for those who are…)
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 12:53     Subject: Are $500k+ jobs really that common?
What do you think?

Have you been introduced to Google’s search function?
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 12:52     Subject: Are $500k+ jobs really that common?
Anonymous wrote:its average in dc and close in zip code

Not it’s not. Median HHI in DC is less than 90k.