I meant 8 and 4. It uses the weak inner elbow muscles instead of the stronger upper elbow muscles.

Anonymous wrote:I thought you put your hands lower now.

It's dumb. My teen tries to put his hands at 7 and 4. I tried it and can't drive like that. I don't know why they keep changing teaching methods and making things worse.

Anonymous wrote:Now she does, at 14! It took an astonishingly long time, and she has no special needs of any kind. My other kid with special needs could read an analog clock from early elementary!

It's weird what kids decide they can't or won't do, when they most certainly can

What were you doing all of those years?

High school teacher here. We have to make sure to use digital exam clocks in the rooms where we administer AP exams because so many kids can't read "hand clocks."

I've been teaching 17 years. This is something I've only seen on such a large scale within the past five years or so.

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Anonymous wrote:FYI... when you're teaching your kids to drive, the proper hand position is now 8 and 4.

This is what the VA driving manual teaches and what both of my kids learned from their BTW instructors. They were specifically told not to use 10 and 2 if they wanted to pass the road test, even if that’s how their parents drove.

And to say in topic I meant to say that both of my kids can read an analog clock.

Anonymous wrote:FYI... when you're teaching your kids to drive, the proper hand position is now 8 and 4.

This is what the VA driving manual teaches and what both of my kids learned from their BTW instructors. They were specifically told not to use 10 and 2 if they wanted to pass the road test, even if that’s how their parents drove.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not taught well in elementary any more. It was barely introduced in 1st grade and then deemphasized due to Covid, never to be taught again.

My daughter is learning it in first grade now in APS. We don’t have any analog clocks in our house, so she won’t use it much.

I bought a bunch of them after our cable boxes ceased having clocks. Great by-product both kids know how to use an analog clock. Also asked the 8 year old to show me how he 'drives' and asked him where 10 and 2 are. He understood conceptually, but definitely did 9 and 3.

Of course they know how. There is an analog clock face on their home screens.

Hand clock?

Anonymous wrote:Mine can. But we have analog clocks all around our house.

I think the “skill” is going the way of cursive for most.

Pretty sure schools sill have analog clocks.

My 14 year old sounded insulted when I asked her. She said that the only clocks in classrooms are analog, so of course everyone knows to tell time.

It’s 10 and 4 now. Obviously by all the comments there is no consistency amongst instructors.

My 17yo learned the rudiments in ES, and we worked on it at home. But I think if I hadn’t deliberately bought her an analog alarm clock and an analog watch in late ES, it’s likely she’d have lost the skill by now. She still wears an analog watch, and keeps a cool retro-looking analog clock in her room.

But the other day, we needed to leave at three o’clock; when she asked me “What time is it now?”, I replied that it was “quarter ‘til.” Not sure how she’d never heard that phrase before, but she looked at me like I was speaking Klingon. “Quarter what? Huh?”

Of course, she’s a teenager, so it’s entirely possible she knew exactly what I meant, and was just gently mocking her Gen X mom and her ancient ways.

But now I’m second-guessing myself—I thought this was a thing everyone said? You know, “quarter to/‘til,” “quarter after” the hour. Or maybe it’s just a Southern thing, so it’s less common here?

A "hand clock"?

Yes.

This is a second grade Common Core math skill.

FYI... when you're teaching your kids to drive, the proper hand position is now 8 and 4.