Anonymous wrote:Know a couple ivy athletes. They are INCREDIBLY smart (like, 4.9 W GPA) and play at a high level. They also had A LOT of coach support and running interference for them

Keep in mind, however, while the ivies do give need based aid, they give NO athletic money. And little/no merit for "regular" umc families. I know a couple of kids who are deciding right now whether to turn down and ivy offer b/c they were given zero money. It's a hard decision. And we are in a similar boat of likely turning down a top school out of inability to pay full freight (no merit given) and no athletic money given.

It's a bitter pill but is a reality.

This is true. I have seen students turn down Ivy offers when they get athletic scholarships elsewhere. Additionally, they can be turned down by students who aspire to play certain sports professionally, like opting to play football at Michigan or Penn State versus Dartmouth.

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Anonymous wrote:Know a couple ivy athletes. They are INCREDIBLY smart (like, 4.9 W GPA) and play at a high level. They also had A LOT of coach support and running interference for them

Keep in mind, however, while the ivies do give need based aid, they give NO athletic money. And little/no merit for "regular" umc families. I know a couple of kids who are deciding right now whether to turn down and ivy offer b/c they were given zero money. It's a hard decision. And we are in a similar boat of likely turning down a top school out of inability to pay full freight (no merit given) and no athletic money given.

It's a bitter pill but is a reality.

You are too early...this is where the Ivy booster clubs will start filling in some of the gaps for the relatively high-profile sports. The coach will refer you to somebody at boosters who may sign you to an NIL deal to "close the deal". They don't care about need.

We are not a high profile sport and we have no booster connections. So this is not happening for us.

Not to get into the weeds...but you don't need booster connections. All the Ivy league schools are releasing their NIL guidelines which will allow booster networks.

I would not be shocked if multiple teams with wealthy alums create booster networks. In that instance, if you are highly recruited and have already been accepted by the school, the coach will put you in contact with the field hockey/squash/fencing head of boosters and you will try to work out a financial arrangement.

I know of football players recruited to multiple Ivies. Not sure what caliber students they were. They were good, though not especially amazing, players. Same with track & field (jumping and throwing). For some sports, both academic and athletic standards may be lowered (compared to the athletic expectations at large school, non-Ivy D-1s).

Friends kid was recruited and it was all about being on a specific club team with a specific coach. Then there was fierce infighting and competition within the team about who got which sport at which school, but every single one of them ended up on an ivy team.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on the sport. DD is an athletic recruit to an Ivy next year. She said one of her future teammates is dumb as dirt. She's only taken 1 AP her entire HS career and highest math was pre-calc. Sooo, if they are talented athletes the Ivy will exceptions with grades.

What a lovely child you’ve raised. 😒

Seriously. I would be so embarrassed and horrified if I had a child with a mouth like that. What an awful person the PP has produced.

NP. You and the other holier than thou parents are hilarious. Admit it was a rude comment but to question poster and kid's character is ridiculous. I'm sure you and your angels never pass judgment on anyone. Hypocrites.

My kid has never and would never say something like that about a teammate. Of course my kid is far from a perfect kid, but that was a truly awful thing to say about a teammate. It does show a lack of character. That kind of awful description of teammates — people that child spends many hours with — is pretty far out of the norm, which is why people are so shocked.

It's not a nice thing to say at all. Maybe the child is offended because they had to work at both their academics and sport to get in. Still most Ivy kids are judge-y and some are not so nice.

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the sport. DD is an athletic recruit to an Ivy next year. She said one of her future teammates is dumb as dirt. She's only taken 1 AP her entire HS career and highest math was pre-calc. Sooo, if they are talented athletes the Ivy will exceptions with grades.

This is an absolute lie unless you disclose the school and sport. I’m certain of this because at top schools, coaches are clear that grades and testing matter.

I know of multiple children of trustees who made it onto Ivy teams. Become a member of the governing boards?

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on the sport. DD is an athletic recruit to an Ivy next year. She said one of her future teammates is dumb as dirt. She's only taken 1 AP her entire HS career and highest math was pre-calc. Sooo, if they are talented athletes the Ivy will exceptions with grades.

What a lovely child you’ve raised. 😒

Seriously. I would be so embarrassed and horrified if I had a child with a mouth like that. What an awful person the PP has produced.

NP. You and the other holier than thou parents are hilarious. Admit it was a rude comment but to question poster and kid's character is ridiculous. I'm sure you and your angels never pass judgment on anyone. Hypocrites.

My kid has never and would never say something like that about a teammate. Of course my kid is far from a perfect kid, but that was a truly awful thing to say about a teammate. It does show a lack of character. That kind of awful description of teammates — people that child spends many hours with — is pretty far out of the norm, which is why people are so shocked.

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Anonymous wrote:Know a couple ivy athletes. They are INCREDIBLY smart (like, 4.9 W GPA) and play at a high level. They also had A LOT of coach support and running interference for them

Keep in mind, however, while the ivies do give need based aid, they give NO athletic money. And little/no merit for "regular" umc families. I know a couple of kids who are deciding right now whether to turn down and ivy offer b/c they were given zero money. It's a hard decision. And we are in a similar boat of likely turning down a top school out of inability to pay full freight (no merit given) and no athletic money given.

It's a bitter pill but is a reality.

You are too early...this is where the Ivy booster clubs will start filling in some of the gaps for the relatively high-profile sports. The coach will refer you to somebody at boosters who may sign you to an NIL deal to "close the deal". They don't care about need.

We are not a high profile sport and we have no booster connections. So this is not happening for us.

You have to be a very good athlete, and many of the sports teams (field hockey is a big one) are full of international students.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on the sport. DD is an athletic recruit to an Ivy next year. She said one of her future teammates is dumb as dirt. She's only taken 1 AP her entire HS career and highest math was pre-calc. Sooo, if they are talented athletes the Ivy will exceptions with grades.

What a lovely child you’ve raised. 😒

Seriously. I would be so embarrassed and horrified if I had a child with a mouth like that. What an awful person the PP has produced.

NP. You and the other holier than thou parents are hilarious. Admit it was a rude comment but to question poster and kid's character is ridiculous. I'm sure you and your angels never pass judgment on anyone. Hypocrites.

My kid is at an athlete at a Big3 private and knows several kids who are top athletes (not football, basketball, baseball or lacrosse) but outside the top 15% of the class and have been told by the Ivies that their grades aren't good enough. It's striking because they're REALLY good at their respective sports but they're not in the top 20 kids in the class (which is really hard to do) so the Ivies are passing. He has another friend who pretty much phoned it in and did almost zero work at Jackson Reed (by the student and his parents' own admission), got a 4.3 and was recruited to a top10 school.

It really does not seem to be a good plan to try for elite university recruitment from a pressure cooker high school.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on the sport. DD is an athletic recruit to an Ivy next year. She said one of her future teammates is dumb as dirt. She's only taken 1 AP her entire HS career and highest math was pre-calc. Sooo, if they are talented athletes the Ivy will exceptions with grades.

What a lovely child you’ve raised. 😒

Seriously. I would be so embarrassed and horrified if I had a child with a mouth like that. What an awful person the PP has produced.

Anonymous wrote:Know a couple ivy athletes. They are INCREDIBLY smart (like, 4.9 W GPA) and play at a high level. They also had A LOT of coach support and running interference for them

Keep in mind, however, while the ivies do give need based aid, they give NO athletic money. And little/no merit for "regular" umc families. I know a couple of kids who are deciding right now whether to turn down and ivy offer b/c they were given zero money. It's a hard decision. And we are in a similar boat of likely turning down a top school out of inability to pay full freight (no merit given) and no athletic money given.

It's a bitter pill but is a reality.

You are too early...this is where the Ivy booster clubs will start filling in some of the gaps for the relatively high-profile sports. The coach will refer you to somebody at boosters who may sign you to an NIL deal to "close the deal". They don't care about need.

Know a couple ivy athletes. They are INCREDIBLY smart (like, 4.9 W GPA) and play at a high level. They also had A LOT of coach support and running interference for them

Keep in mind, however, while the ivies do give need based aid, they give NO athletic money. And little/no merit for "regular" umc families. I know a couple of kids who are deciding right now whether to turn down and ivy offer b/c they were given zero money. It's a hard decision. And we are in a similar boat of likely turning down a top school out of inability to pay full freight (no merit given) and no athletic money given.

It's a bitter pill but is a reality.