Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 20:38     Subject: Don't return engagement ring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you two aren’t getting married, you give the ring back. That is how a judge will always rule.


For real? IANAL, but as a lay person, an engagement ring so very clearly reads as a gift. I can see how it has roots that are more contract-like but I would not have imagined modern courts would interpret marriage in such a transactional way.


Clearly, lol.

-- a lawyer
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 20:35     Subject: Re:Don't return engagement ring?
NEVER GIVE THE RING BACK!!!!!!!

It's yours!
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 14:00     Subject: Re:Don't return engagement ring?
Only if you get ditched at the alter and are out of pocket to vendors.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 13:53     Subject: Don't return engagement ring?
Anonymous wrote:
he was a jerk, but you sound like a catch


I am, that's why I showed him the door. There was no chance I did not give this man to communicate and be honest. The natural consequences of his actions are on him. It isn't complicated.


You might feel justified, but keeping the ring is only going to hurt you. It’s bad juju and you’re going to hang onto that negativity while you still have it. Free the ring and free yourself!
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 13:51     Subject: Don't return engagement ring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you two aren’t getting married, you give the ring back. That is how a judge will always rule.


Not true. State law varies on this.


The contact never happened so the ring needs to go back.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 13:50     Subject: Don't return engagement ring?
SUPER tacky to keep the ring op.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 13:49     Subject: Don't return engagement ring?
Anonymous wrote:Unless you’re a gold digger why would you want to keep the ring?


Sometimes you’re out deposits on wedding stuff, need to spend hundreds shipping gifts back, need to move, cancelling an engagement is not cost-free.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 13:43     Subject: Don't return engagement ring?
Anonymous wrote:Sorry folks, I kept it.

We dated for two years. It was lovely. Then he proposed and I moved in with him, and it all fell apart while he gas lit me for a year and cheated, serially. I saw things dissolving, asked that we sit and talk, untangle things, do it the right way, etc. (which obviously would have involved giving the ring back). I was sincere, genuinely loved him, and was willing to make it work, or move on. One or the other.

Nope. He refused, insisted I was crazy, and dragged everything out, including lying in counseling which was my last pre-marital resort at conflict resolution. The day I found allll the evidence on his phone was the day I kicked him out, to his great protests, denials, and apologies. When he asked for the ring back I laughed in his face. He whined, "it was a conditional gift!".

"Yes it was", I said. "Yes, it was".

This man took almost three years of my life (between dating, engagement, and ending). I was willing to work it out or walk away like a normal human, and he couldn't do either. He can make that money back. I don't get those three years back. It's now in a drawer, can be made into other jewelry, can be donated to charity, or can get thrown into the Potomac. I haven't decided. And I don't have to.

I had enough. You play, you pay.


Your justified anger at him doesn’t justify the decision to keep the ring.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 13:42     Subject: Don't return engagement ring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry folks, I kept it.

he was a jerk, but you sound like a catch


I am, that's why I showed him the door. There was no chance I did not give this man to communicate and be honest. The natural consequences of his actions are on him. It isn't complicated.


He took the low road with you, and you reciprocated. You took the low road as well. You are no better than him.


He took the low road with you, and you reciprocated. You took the low road as well. You are no better than him.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 13:41     Subject: Don't return engagement ring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry folks, I kept it.

he was a jerk, but you sound like a catch


I am, that's why I showed him the door. There was no chance I did not give this man to communicate and be honest. The natural consequences of his actions are on him. It isn't complicated.


He took the low road with you, and you reciprocated. You took the low road as well. You are no better than him.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 13:36     Subject: Don't return engagement ring?
Unless you’re a gold digger why would you want to keep the ring?
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 13:14     Subject: Don't return engagement ring?
he was a jerk, but you sound like a catch


I am, that's why I showed him the door. There was no chance I did not give this man to communicate and be honest. The natural consequences of his actions are on him. It isn't complicated.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 13:14     Subject: Don't return engagement ring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry folks, I kept it.

he was a jerk, but you sound like a catch


I am, that's why I showed him the door. There was no chance I did not give this man to communicate and be honest. The natural consequences of his actions are on him. It isn't complicated.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 13:09     Subject: Re:Don't return engagement ring?
Take the high road and give it back.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 13:00     Subject: Don't return engagement ring?
Anonymous wrote:Sorry folks, I kept it.

he was a jerk, but you sound like a catch