Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 10:41     Subject: Case Study: Why has Lauren Graham been single most of her life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here’s an article where she hints at what might have been behind the ending of things:

https://www.today.com/today/amp/rcna55603



PP here. Yeah, this is where I remember she mentioned values.


I wonder if he was a COVID denier or anti vaxxer or something along those lines.

I don’t think he would have been allowed to continue to film in 2021 without being vaxed. That’s when antivaxxers were being fired.



Good point. She's a writer, must have have known it was provocative to use that specific terminology.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 10:24     Subject: Case Study: Why has Lauren Graham been single most of her life?
Anonymous wrote:She dated Matthew Perry for a long time too.


No evidence of this. In her book she says she almost dated Matthew Perry. In his book he says he went on a date with Lauren...
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 10:13     Subject: Re:Case Study: Why has Lauren Graham been single most of her life?
One of my work friends got married last week for the first time at age 72! So happy for her.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 10:04     Subject: Re:Case Study: Why has Lauren Graham been single most of her life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op here. I think I actually saw an interview or read somewhere that Lauren herself was shocked that marriage alluded her.


Maybe that’s just what she put out as PR, since a lot of people are dumbfounded that someone can be happily single?


It can be both- she can be surprised she never got married but also happily single. We’re not used to the idea of well adjusted people who adapt to their circumstances but they exist and maybe she is one of them!
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 10:00     Subject: Re:Case Study: Why has Lauren Graham been single most of her life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op here. I think I actually saw an interview or read somewhere that Lauren herself was shocked that marriage alluded her.


I’m
Obviously not Lauren Graham, but I’m
conventionally attractive, well educated and relatively successful. I have wonderful long-term relationships with family and friends.

I am just now, in my early 40s, finally in a relationship that I believe is going to result in marriage. It isn’t that I didn’t want or believe in marriage earlier - I did. I didn’t focus solely on my career or some other goal, either - I dated a lot. I truly just didn’t meet the right person before now, and I was happy “enough” single/never willing to force anything I was unsure about. I wish I’d known him sooner, I was certainly ready to be in a marriage/permanent committed relationship before this. I just hadn’t met him yet 🤷🏼‍♀️


That's awesome. And I have to think LG has been similarly happy. I remember her talking about how she was a really hands on "parent" figure to PK's son during very formative years, and it was obvious that she got a lot of fulfillment out of that experience. Just to say, single doesn't mean spinster sitting at home with cats watching Matlock. I am sure she always was fulfilled and enjpying herself.

I am surprised people align marriage = happiness, because it does not work that way at all. I know so many, way too many, women who take on just SOO MUCH for their partners and it is not reciprocated. They feel so unhappy, destroyed even, but they would never do anything about it or leave. The fear of being alone, or having to do motherhood on your own, or what society will think, or whatever it is, is still so huge.


I would just like to not that for some of us in unhappy marriages, it's not fear of being alone or even fear of being a single parent that stops us (the idea of being alone and raising my child alone sounds, honestly, awesome), it's that this isn't really an option available to you. Divorcing someone with whom you have kids means co-parenting with them while separated. It can also be really hard on kids, especially if you are not wealthy and there are good financial reasons why keeping households combined will financially benefit your child. It's not fear of being alone, I'd love to be alone and I know I'd do well (my DH, I'm not so sure about -- he is incredibly codependent and I don't know how he would function or deliver has a dad on his own).
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 09:55     Subject: Re:Case Study: Why has Lauren Graham been single most of her life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op here. I think I actually saw an interview or read somewhere that Lauren herself was shocked that marriage alluded her.


I’m
Obviously not Lauren Graham, but I’m
conventionally attractive, well educated and relatively successful. I have wonderful long-term relationships with family and friends.

I am just now, in my early 40s, finally in a relationship that I believe is going to result in marriage. It isn’t that I didn’t want or believe in marriage earlier - I did. I didn’t focus solely on my career or some other goal, either - I dated a lot. I truly just didn’t meet the right person before now, and I was happy “enough” single/never willing to force anything I was unsure about. I wish I’d known him sooner, I was certainly ready to be in a marriage/permanent committed relationship before this. I just hadn’t met him yet 🤷🏼‍♀️


That's awesome. And I have to think LG has been similarly happy. I remember her talking about how she was a really hands on "parent" figure to PK's son during very formative years, and it was obvious that she got a lot of fulfillment out of that experience. Just to say, single doesn't mean spinster sitting at home with cats watching Matlock. I am sure she always was fulfilled and enjpying herself.

I am surprised people align marriage = happiness, because it does not work that way at all. I know so many, way too many, women who take on just SOO MUCH for their partners and it is not reciprocated. They feel so unhappy, destroyed even, but they would never do anything about it or leave. The fear of being alone, or having to do motherhood on your own, or what society will think, or whatever it is, is still so huge.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 09:51     Subject: Case Study: Why has Lauren Graham been single most of her life?
Anonymous wrote:I finally married at 48. We were living together and we realized that legally it was easier to be married. No big romance thing for us. I never wanted children and marriage meant little to me. It legally has been easier being married. I lived with another for 8 years. years, no marriage and no regrets.


Good for you! I am 42 and have been divorced for 7 years. I have been very focused on my kids and I sometimes feel sad, like maybe it won't happy for me. But maybe it will. Anyway, I am happy for you!
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 03:16     Subject: Case Study: Why has Lauren Graham been single most of her life?
I finally married at 48. We were living together and we realized that legally it was easier to be married. No big romance thing for us. I never wanted children and marriage meant little to me. It legally has been easier being married. I lived with another for 8 years. years, no marriage and no regrets.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 23:47     Subject: Re:Case Study: Why has Lauren Graham been single most of her life?
Anonymous wrote:Op here. I think I actually saw an interview or read somewhere that Lauren herself was shocked that marriage alluded her.


I’m
Obviously not Lauren Graham, but I’m
conventionally attractive, well educated and relatively successful. I have wonderful long-term relationships with family and friends.

I am just now, in my early 40s, finally in a relationship that I believe is going to result in marriage. It isn’t that I didn’t want or believe in marriage earlier - I did. I didn’t focus solely on my career or some other goal, either - I dated a lot. I truly just didn’t meet the right person before now, and I was happy “enough” single/never willing to force anything I was unsure about. I wish I’d known him sooner, I was certainly ready to be in a marriage/permanent committed relationship before this. I just hadn’t met him yet 🤷🏼‍♀️
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 23:42     Subject: Case Study: Why has Lauren Graham been single most of her life?
Based on interviews I read when he was on Six Feet Under, Peter Krause struck me as a moody, unhappy guy. She wasted her time.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 22:44     Subject: Case Study: Why has Lauren Graham been single most of her life?
Anonymous wrote:I am pretty and smart, well educated , good social skills.

I think the reason I never married is that I was not that motivated.

I had no problem assembling a great life on my own.


+1

Good on ya!
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 22:40     Subject: Case Study: Why has Lauren Graham been single most of her life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here’s an article where she hints at what might have been behind the ending of things:

https://www.today.com/today/amp/rcna55603



PP here. Yeah, this is where I remember she mentioned values.


I wonder if he was a COVID denier or anti vaxxer or something along those lines.

I don’t think he would have been allowed to continue to film in 2021 without being vaxed. That’s when antivaxxers were being fired.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 22:36     Subject: Case Study: Why has Lauren Graham been single most of her life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here’s an article where she hints at what might have been behind the ending of things:

https://www.today.com/today/amp/rcna55603



PP here. Yeah, this is where I remember she mentioned values.


I wonder if he was a COVID denier or anti vaxxer or something along those lines.


I don't know how you get that from that interview. It sounds like they each handled Covid differently and it exposed fundamental differences in personality. Like Peter maybe didn't mind isolating and digging in on home life, but Lauren struggled more and ultimately took a job filming on location and when she got back it was clear they went in different directions.

Nothing about what she's said indicates a difference over politics, which I do think would tend to manifest sooner.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 22:28     Subject: Case Study: Why has Lauren Graham been single most of her life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here’s an article where she hints at what might have been behind the ending of things:

https://www.today.com/today/amp/rcna55603



PP here. Yeah, this is where I remember she mentioned values.


I wonder if he was a COVID denier or anti vaxxer or something along those lines.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 22:19     Subject: Case Study: Why has Lauren Graham been single most of her life?
I am pretty and smart, well educated , good social skills.

I think the reason I never married is that I was not that motivated.

I had no problem assembling a great life on my own.