Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 12:52     Subject: Why California’s Public Universities Are So Good
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:California invested a shit ton of money into its public university system prior to California property tax reform in the late 70s. They took the top students from California, tuition free. I think that investment is still paying dividends.


The student surveys for UC schools on teaching and commitment to undergraduate education are not good relative to other public universities.


I think you're on every California thread saying kids are locked out of class choices. Then an actual parent of someone at UCLA or Berkeley comes along and debunks it. I do wonder if you're suffering from some kind of degenerative disorder (I mean this seriously).
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 12:43     Subject: Why California’s Public Universities Are So Good
Anonymous wrote:UC campuses are beautiful and they have D1 sports/school spirit. In contrast, SUNY schools look like prisons and have zero school spirit and few sports. These things matter to 17 year olds.


Love this post !

These things matter to folks of all ages.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 12:41     Subject: Why California’s Public Universities Are So Good
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:California invested a shit ton of money into its public university system prior to California property tax reform in the late 70s. They took the top students from California, tuition free. I think that investment is still paying dividends.


The student surveys for UC schools on teaching and commitment to undergraduate education are not good relative to other public universities.


Do you have a source / link ? TIA
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 12:37     Subject: Why California’s Public Universities Are So Good
Anonymous wrote:California invested a shit ton of money into its public university system prior to California property tax reform in the late 70s. They took the top students from California, tuition free. I think that investment is still paying dividends.


The student surveys for UC schools on teaching and commitment to undergraduate education are not good relative to other public universities.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 12:03     Subject: Why California’s Public Universities Are So Good
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.

Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.


Doesn’t grade inflation happen at FCPS? And yet everyone extols the virtues of UVA. I don’t suggest anyone go to UCs from out of state, but for those of us who live in CA, it’s a great choice! And they have across the board scholarships for middle class families for FREE tuition!

What I don’t understand is why does everyone keep talking about and arguing about UCs? It’s not your public university so why do you even care about it, PP?


When did that start? I know there was free tuition back around my parents' generation (60's and 70's maybe?) but by the time I went to a UC in 1993, there was definitely tuition, and my family was middle class. If I remember correctly, tuition was roughly $4k/year. Cal States were cheaper, just under $2k per year.

I went to a cal state in the 90s. By the time I graduated, tuition had doubled. Same for UCs.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 11:56     Subject: Why California’s Public Universities Are So Good
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.

Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.


Doesn’t grade inflation happen at FCPS? And yet everyone extols the virtues of UVA. I don’t suggest anyone go to UCs from out of state, but for those of us who live in CA, it’s a great choice! And they have across the board scholarships for middle class families for FREE tuition!

What I don’t understand is why does everyone keep talking about and arguing about UCs? It’s not your public university so why do you even care about it, PP?


When did that start? I know there was free tuition back around my parents' generation (60's and 70's maybe?) but by the time I went to a UC in 1993, there was definitely tuition, and my family was middle class. If I remember correctly, tuition was roughly $4k/year. Cal States were cheaper, just under $2k per year.


UCLA posts historic fees online: https://registrar.ucla.edu/archives/fees-archive

Yep, it was about 4,000 year in the late 1990s for tuition (not counting housing).


I can't look at that link. It's too depressing to see how much tuition has risen. But we are in-state for CA and hope to be paying that in a few years time.


I'm 40 and it was 60k (roughly) all-in with housing for four years there.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 11:52     Subject: Why California’s Public Universities Are So Good
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.

Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.


Doesn’t grade inflation happen at FCPS? And yet everyone extols the virtues of UVA. I don’t suggest anyone go to UCs from out of state, but for those of us who live in CA, it’s a great choice! And they have across the board scholarships for middle class families for FREE tuition!

What I don’t understand is why does everyone keep talking about and arguing about UCs? It’s not your public university so why do you even care about it, PP?


When did that start? I know there was free tuition back around my parents' generation (60's and 70's maybe?) but by the time I went to a UC in 1993, there was definitely tuition, and my family was middle class. If I remember correctly, tuition was roughly $4k/year. Cal States were cheaper, just under $2k per year.


UCLA posts historic fees online: https://registrar.ucla.edu/archives/fees-archive

Yep, it was about 4,000 year in the late 1990s for tuition (not counting housing).


I can't look at that link. It's too depressing to see how much tuition has risen. But we are in-state for CA and hope to be paying that in a few years time.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 11:41     Subject: Why California’s Public Universities Are So Good
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.

Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.


Doesn’t grade inflation happen at FCPS? And yet everyone extols the virtues of UVA. I don’t suggest anyone go to UCs from out of state, but for those of us who live in CA, it’s a great choice! And they have across the board scholarships for middle class families for FREE tuition!

What I don’t understand is why does everyone keep talking about and arguing about UCs? It’s not your public university so why do you even care about it, PP?


When did that start? I know there was free tuition back around my parents' generation (60's and 70's maybe?) but by the time I went to a UC in 1993, there was definitely tuition, and my family was middle class. If I remember correctly, tuition was roughly $4k/year. Cal States were cheaper, just under $2k per year.


UCLA posts historic fees online: https://registrar.ucla.edu/archives/fees-archive

Yep, it was about 4,000 year in the late 1990s for tuition (not counting housing).
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 11:31     Subject: Why California’s Public Universities Are So Good
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.

Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.


Doesn’t grade inflation happen at FCPS? And yet everyone extols the virtues of UVA. I don’t suggest anyone go to UCs from out of state, but for those of us who live in CA, it’s a great choice! And they have across the board scholarships for middle class families for FREE tuition!

What I don’t understand is why does everyone keep talking about and arguing about UCs? It’s not your public university so why do you even care about it, PP?


When did that start? I know there was free tuition back around my parents' generation (60's and 70's maybe?) but by the time I went to a UC in 1993, there was definitely tuition, and my family was middle class. If I remember correctly, tuition was roughly $4k/year. Cal States were cheaper, just under $2k per year.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 11:30     Subject: Why California’s Public Universities Are So Good
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.

Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.


Doesn’t grade inflation happen at FCPS? And yet everyone extols the virtues of UVA. I don’t suggest anyone go to UCs from out of state, but for those of us who live in CA, it’s a great choice! And they have across the board scholarships for middle class families for FREE tuition!

What I don’t understand is why does everyone keep talking about and arguing about UCs? It’s not your public university so why do you even care about it, PP?


UVA is test optional, not test blind so they have a means of norming grades the UC system lacks.

I don’t particularly care about the UC system, just responding to a strange post lauding the system.


Well I agree that test scores are useful, and UCs are missing that piece for sure.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 11:21     Subject: Why California’s Public Universities Are So Good
California invested a shit ton of money into its public university system prior to California property tax reform in the late 70s. They took the top students from California, tuition free. I think that investment is still paying dividends.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 11:06     Subject: Why California’s Public Universities Are So Good
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.

Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.


Doesn’t grade inflation happen at FCPS? And yet everyone extols the virtues of UVA. I don’t suggest anyone go to UCs from out of state, but for those of us who live in CA, it’s a great choice! And they have across the board scholarships for middle class families for FREE tuition!

What I don’t understand is why does everyone keep talking about and arguing about UCs? It’s not your public university so why do you even care about it, PP?


UVA is test optional, not test blind so they have a means of norming grades the UC system lacks.

I don’t particularly care about the UC system, just responding to a strange post lauding the system.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 11:03     Subject: Why California’s Public Universities Are So Good
Anonymous wrote:Also, while UC schools don't have honors colleges per se, the UCs have Regents' and Chancellors' Scholar Programs, which basically function that way--priority guaranteed housing for four years, priority class selection, assigned professor mentors, and fellowships.

The top student in my high school actually picked this option over Harvard.


MY DS chose Berkeley and (Regents & Chancellor's Scholarship) over Caltech and Stanford.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 11:02     Subject: Why California’s Public Universities Are So Good
Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.

Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.


Doesn’t grade inflation happen at FCPS? And yet everyone extols the virtues of UVA. I don’t suggest anyone go to UCs from out of state, but for those of us who live in CA, it’s a great choice! And they have across the board scholarships for middle class families for FREE tuition!

What I don’t understand is why does everyone keep talking about and arguing about UCs? It’s not your public university so why do you even care about it, PP?
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2023 10:55     Subject: Why California’s Public Universities Are So Good
Anonymous wrote:UC campuses are beautiful and they have D1 sports/school spirit. In contrast, SUNY schools look like prisons and have zero school spirit and few sports. These things matter to 17 year olds.


...and the weather .