Anonymous
03/13/2015 17:15
Subject: Re:Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority
Anonymous wrote:I think that the two SAE brothers booted from OU deserve their day in court and President Boren's decision to expel them was expedient yet questionable. Especially in light of the Supreme Court's decisions on speech codes and 1st Amendment cases (KKK, Westboro). I abhor the brothers' behavior as much as any thinking person, but these guys will have a good defense in court since there's a distinction between their actions (calling for lynching) and making an immediate or specific threat towards a specific individual.
And as a recent college grad, I think lowering the drinking age to 18 or 19 and curbing the zero-tolerance nonsense for underage possession of alcohol on campuses would do a LOT to mitigate the garbage that originates in Greek life and the unofficial underground houses that pop up after the chapter gets banned. I went a well regarded northern school (Dickinson) and our SAEs were huge tools too. They were infamous for nasty behavior and the first (and last) SAE party I went to freshman year was the first time someone offered to sell me coke. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them knew that infamous chant... yet girls flocked to their house and other frats on weekends for various shenanigans, largely because our college town was small and boring and our six frats were the only game in town for big parties with alcohol on weekends. Why? America thinks 18-20 year-old adult citizens can't be trusted to buy, consume or possess booze. I get why this law made sense in 1985, but a revision of this policy is long overdue. Most college kids WILL drink underage and would be better off under the supervision of a bartender who can cut them off and call them a taxi instead of binge drinking behind closed doors in filthy basements. I don't think that outright banning Greek life is the answer to improving campuses either, but I can't help but think we'd have less sexual assault, less violence and fewer sad headlines about degenerate campus behavior if we stopped infantalizing young adults and let them go to a damn bar legally, like their peers in the rest of the Western world.
I had a great time in college, but the status quo needs to change fast.
Anonymous
03/13/2015 17:12
Subject: Re:Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority
I think that the two SAE brothers booted from OU deserve their day in court and President Boren's decision to expel them was expedient yet questionable. Especially in light of the Supreme Court's decisions on speech codes and 1st Amendment cases (KKK, Westboro). I abhor the brothers' behavior as much as any thinking person, but these guys will have a good defense in court since there's a distinction between their actions (calling for lynching) and making an immediate or specific threat towards a specific individual.
And as a recent college grad, I think lowering the drinking age to 18 or 19 and curbing the zero-tolerance nonsense for underage possession of alcohol on campuses would do a LOT to mitigate the garbage that originates in Greek life and the unofficial underground houses that pop up after the chapter gets banned. I went a well regarded northern school (Dickinson) and our SAEs were huge tools too. They were infamous for nasty behavior and the first (and last) SAE party I went to freshman year was the first time someone offered to sell me coke. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them knew that infamous chant... yet girls flocked to their house and other frats on weekends for various shenanigans, largely because our college town was small and boring and our six frats were the only game in town for big parties with alcohol on weekends. Why? America thinks 18-20 year-old adult citizens can't be trusted to buy, consume or possess booze. I get why this law made sense in 1985, but a revision of this policy is long overdue. Most college kids WILL drink underage and would be better off under the supervision of a bartender who can cut them off and call them a taxi instead of binge drinking behind closed doors in filthy basements. I don't think that outright banning Greek life is the answer to improving campuses either, but I can't help but think we'd have less sexual assault, less violence and fewer sad headlines about degenerate campus behavior if we stopped infantalizing young adults and let them go to a damn bar legally, like their peers in the rest of the Western world.
I had a great time in college, but the status quo needs to change fast.
And as a recent college grad, I think lowering the drinking age to 18 or 19 and curbing the zero-tolerance nonsense for underage possession of alcohol on campuses would do a LOT to mitigate the garbage that originates in Greek life and the unofficial underground houses that pop up after the chapter gets banned. I went a well regarded northern school (Dickinson) and our SAEs were huge tools too. They were infamous for nasty behavior and the first (and last) SAE party I went to freshman year was the first time someone offered to sell me coke. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them knew that infamous chant... yet girls flocked to their house and other frats on weekends for various shenanigans, largely because our college town was small and boring and our six frats were the only game in town for big parties with alcohol on weekends. Why? America thinks 18-20 year-old adult citizens can't be trusted to buy, consume or possess booze. I get why this law made sense in 1985, but a revision of this policy is long overdue. Most college kids WILL drink underage and would be better off under the supervision of a bartender who can cut them off and call them a taxi instead of binge drinking behind closed doors in filthy basements. I don't think that outright banning Greek life is the answer to improving campuses either, but I can't help but think we'd have less sexual assault, less violence and fewer sad headlines about degenerate campus behavior if we stopped infantalizing young adults and let them go to a damn bar legally, like their peers in the rest of the Western world.
I had a great time in college, but the status quo needs to change fast.
Anonymous
03/13/2015 12:03
Subject: Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People should live according to their values. The inherent problem with the sahm vs wohm war is that some people can't accept that their values are not universal. It is not fair to criticize others for not living up to your standards - in fact it is none of your fucking business.
At the same time you have to draw a line somewhere. In many places women are considered property, in others children are sent to war. You can't just accept anything that goes past as differing cultural values. It's weak and pathetic. Stand up for yourself and what you know to be right.
I am talking specifically about something that is a matter of individual preference and family situation. I am not going to work or stay home to live up to other people's values and standards. I am standing up for myself by doing what works best for my family. You should do the same. I am not weak or pathetic btw i am a bad-ass (in a good way).
Anonymous
03/13/2015 11:37
Subject: Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:my unpopular opinion-the large majority of people only seem to do nice things so they can take a photo of it and put it on the internet. i saw a photo this week of a lady who brought some cakes down to military personnel searching for that missing plane in florida. WHY would she have someone take a photo of her doing this? A serious situation like that is not a photo op. Bring the food if you want but ughhhh with the photos.
How will people know otherwise?
Anonymous
03/13/2015 10:46
Subject: Re:Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority
Anonymous wrote:Agree completely, also about the big public marriage proposal. Of course, had he done that, it would have meant that a) he did not know me at all; and b) I had been dating someone completely different from who I am.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OK, changing the topic here. My minority opinion: I hate ambush returning servicemember videos involving young children and their mom or dad. I think they are exploitative.
that's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. What should the servicemember's dc do instead? Shake their hand?
Not the PP - but this is what I think she is talking about:
https://youtu.be/Y2mk_zZCZVE
Life is not a reality TV.
I still don't understand why a dc can't show emotion when their father returns from a war or why it is exploitive
Making it a show for everyone to see and posting it everywhere is the distasteful and exploitative part of it. Nothing is private anymore, and everything becomes "look at me". Nobody asks the children how they feel about having their (private) emotions broadcast and put on the internet.
Yes, exactly. The kids seem stunned, then confused, then, inevitably joyful, but I don't think it needs to be filmed and uploaded for entertainment. It's all very narcissistic and I can't help but think of those kids whose parents return from war in a body bag.
I have the same feeling about big, public marriage proposals. I would have said no if my husband had tried that.
Good point. I think the people who film marriage proposals, with both families jumping out from behind the booths at some chain restaurant with balloons and confetti, are the same ones who then have 25 of their nearest and dearest in the delivery room, videocameras trained on the mom-to-be's crotch.
Anonymous
03/13/2015 10:30
Subject: Re:Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority
Agree completely, also about the big public marriage proposal. Of course, had he done that, it would have meant that a) he did not know me at all; and b) I had been dating someone completely different from who I am.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OK, changing the topic here. My minority opinion: I hate ambush returning servicemember videos involving young children and their mom or dad. I think they are exploitative.
that's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. What should the servicemember's dc do instead? Shake their hand?
Not the PP - but this is what I think she is talking about:
https://youtu.be/Y2mk_zZCZVE
Life is not a reality TV.
I still don't understand why a dc can't show emotion when their father returns from a war or why it is exploitive
Making it a show for everyone to see and posting it everywhere is the distasteful and exploitative part of it. Nothing is private anymore, and everything becomes "look at me". Nobody asks the children how they feel about having their (private) emotions broadcast and put on the internet.
Yes, exactly. The kids seem stunned, then confused, then, inevitably joyful, but I don't think it needs to be filmed and uploaded for entertainment. It's all very narcissistic and I can't help but think of those kids whose parents return from war in a body bag.
I have the same feeling about big, public marriage proposals. I would have said no if my husband had tried that.
Anonymous
03/13/2015 10:07
Subject: Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority
Anonymous wrote:my unpopular opinion-the large majority of people only seem to do nice things so they can take a photo of it and put it on the internet. i saw a photo this week of a lady who brought some cakes down to military personnel searching for that missing plane in florida. WHY would she have someone take a photo of her doing this? A serious situation like that is not a photo op. Bring the food if you want but ughhhh with the photos.
How will people know otherwise?
Anonymous
03/13/2015 09:05
Subject: Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority
Anonymous wrote:People should live according to their values. The inherent problem with the sahm vs wohm war is that some people can't accept that their values are not universal. It is not fair to criticize others for not living up to your standards - in fact it is none of your fucking business.
+100
Anonymous
03/13/2015 09:04
Subject: Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:my unpopular opinion-the large majority of people only seem to do nice things so they can take a photo of it and put it on the internet. i saw a photo this week of a lady who brought some cakes down to military personnel searching for that missing plane in florida. WHY would she have someone take a photo of her doing this? A serious situation like that is not a photo op. Bring the food if you want but ughhhh with the photos.
Agreed. Many people like to interject themselves into tragic circumstances to draw attention to themselves and show how "compassionate" they are.
+100
Anonymous
03/13/2015 09:03
Subject: Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Isn't there another thread for this ongoing stay at home vs working mom?
Why is it going on and on and on here?
Because there's one militant stay at home mommy on here who needs to
You must be the troll who keeps insulting SAHMs, trying your hardest to get a rise out of them. Don't you have work to do?
No one in this thread is trolling except the lady who insists fathers can't comfort their children.
Riiiiight... definitely not the person (you?) who has said how "lacking" SAHMs are, in every conceivable way. Nope, no troll there.
wohm's can't handle their own medecine
WOHMs clearly can handle more than SAHMs...we do it everyday
Go away. No one cares about your silly "life is a competition" opinions. Especially people who are secure in their life choices. Run along now.
Anonymous
03/13/2015 09:02
Subject: Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Isn't there another thread for this ongoing stay at home vs working mom?
Why is it going on and on and on here?
Because there's one militant stay at home mommy on here who needs to
You must be the troll who keeps insulting SAHMs, trying your hardest to get a rise out of them. Don't you have work to do?
No one in this thread is trolling except the lady who insists fathers can't comfort their children.
Riiiiight... definitely not the person (you?) who has said how "lacking" SAHMs are, in every conceivable way. Nope, no troll there.
I never said that. There are multiple of us working moms on this thread. Try to keep up.
"Multiple of us"? Might be a good time to revisit Grammar 101.
Anonymous
03/13/2015 08:54
Subject: Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority
Anonymous wrote:my unpopular opinion-the large majority of people only seem to do nice things so they can take a photo of it and put it on the internet. i saw a photo this week of a lady who brought some cakes down to military personnel searching for that missing plane in florida. WHY would she have someone take a photo of her doing this? A serious situation like that is not a photo op. Bring the food if you want but ughhhh with the photos.
Agreed. Many people like to interject themselves into tragic circumstances to draw attention to themselves and show how "compassionate" they are.
Anonymous
03/13/2015 08:46
Subject: Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority
my unpopular opinion-the large majority of people only seem to do nice things so they can take a photo of it and put it on the internet. i saw a photo this week of a lady who brought some cakes down to military personnel searching for that missing plane in florida. WHY would she have someone take a photo of her doing this? A serious situation like that is not a photo op. Bring the food if you want but ughhhh with the photos.
Anonymous
03/13/2015 08:43
Subject: Re:Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OK, changing the topic here. My minority opinion: I hate ambush returning servicemember videos involving young children and their mom or dad. I think they are exploitative.
that's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. What should the servicemember's dc do instead? Shake their hand?
Not the PP - but this is what I think she is talking about:
https://youtu.be/Y2mk_zZCZVE
Life is not a reality TV.
I still don't understand why a dc can't show emotion when their father returns from a war or why it is exploitive
Making it a show for everyone to see and posting it everywhere is the distasteful and exploitative part of it. Nothing is private anymore, and everything becomes "look at me". Nobody asks the children how they feel about having their (private) emotions broadcast and put on the internet.
Yes, exactly. The kids seem stunned, then confused, then, inevitably joyful, but I don't think it needs to be filmed and uploaded for entertainment. It's all very narcissistic and I can't help but think of those kids whose parents return from war in a body bag.
I have the same feeling about big, public marriage proposals. I would have said no if my husband had tried that.
Anonymous
03/13/2015 08:42
Subject: Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Isn't there another thread for this ongoing stay at home vs working mom?
Why is it going on and on and on here?
Because there's one militant stay at home mommy on here who needs to
You must be the troll who keeps insulting SAHMs, trying your hardest to get a rise out of them. Don't you have work to do?
No one in this thread is trolling except the lady who insists fathers can't comfort their children.
Riiiiight... definitely not the person (you?) who has said how "lacking" SAHMs are, in every conceivable way. Nope, no troll there.
I never said that. There are multiple of us working moms on this thread. Try to keep up.
Dysfunction breeds dysfunction