Can someone explain how narcissists can get a group of women to completely embrace them for years despite their self serving personality disorder? Today’s IG of Jen and her bff’s looks like a blast. Hell all their adventures look awesome, all of them. Clearly these ladies have serious bank and very supportive husbands.
How on earth do they look past Jen’s inconsistencies, self aggrandizement, etc? I get it they love her unconditionally but why? Is it her fun, exuberant personality brings an added dimension of excitement to their world? Being cool kid adjacent to Jen comes with its own rewards? Seriously why did they love her so deep?

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We all know kids will be kids and make poor judgement calls sometimes. That’s how we all learned. The concern is over a woman marketing parenting me-courses who doesn’t recognize her own complicity in this behavior. This same adult child later gets a dui as he still thinks the rules don’t apply to him. It’s heartbreaking for him to lose his dream of being in the military because of youthful indiscretion. Albeit one that could have killed or permanently damaged himself and/or others. He’s learning some very adult lessons. In the real world there are hard consequences for our poor choices.
So far Jen’s consequences have been after years of aiding and abetting an addict husband he divorces her and is now happily engaged to another. She’s lost her church, the bulk of her Bible loving followers, her self respect with the shilling, and our respect with her narcissistic predatory behavior. Really she’s lost her moral core, foundational mooring and she’s blowing in the wind following the latest influencer trends. It’s sad and largely unnecessary, but those rules/values she sees as only suggestions, wholly open to negotiation, would have been protective if embraced.

I am one of the people who commented on the leaving graduation fiasco.
The point is not so much the kids behavior as the mothers celebration of it. Yes, in a way it's not a big deal, but it's a good representation of some of the things that illustrate the sense of entitlement, arrogance, and look at me mentality that is so obvious with Jen. This site is focused on uncovering some of the excesses in behavior and hopefully may help some women who are struggling with feelings of inadequacy, confusion, or incredulity based on the messages Jen is putting out there. If I were a friend of Jens, I would not be cheering her on. I would be setting up an intervention

Jen is summoning an insane amount of narcissistic energy as we speak in the goal of, one, either portraying herself as the Total Hero/Overcomer, or two, and less likely, the Total Victim.

A sober minded, gentle, and loving well-wishing of her ex and his new marriage would be utterly shocking.

As for Brandon, his posts have him taking responsibility for the destruction of the marriage, owning his battle with addiction, speaking of the various therapy interventions he’s received and his abiding love for his people. It’s hard not to want to give him slack. It tracks with reality.
Reading through is IG he appears to be a lost soul who just wants to be loved. A pp said he was dumb as a box of rocks. I don’t know his IQ but his way of speech isn’t eloquent more straightforward. It comes across as sincere and unpretentious. Sure there are the endless photos of his toys(truck, motorcycle, boat, boots, hats), food porn, liquor shots, and images of his new love which all seem kind of shallow and juvenile. Not a lot of sophistication, more like a middle aged townie who finds pleasure in the simple things. But there is a kindness and a sense of self reflection that make him seem more trustworthy. We don’t know how ugly he was at rock bottom but his new life seems legit unlike Jen’s.

Wiki def:
“A parasocial interaction, an exposure that garners interest in a persona,[6] becomes a parasocial relationship after repeated exposure to the media persona causes the media user to develop illusions of intimacy, friendship, and identification.[5] Positive information learned about the media persona results in increased attraction, and the relationship progresses.[6] Parasocial relationships are enhanced due to trust and self-disclosure provided by the media persona.[5] Media users are loyal and feel directly connected to the persona, much as they are connected to their close friends, by observing and interpreting their appearance, gestures, voice, conversation, and conduct.[6] Media personas have a significant amount of influence over media users, positive or negative, informing the way that they perceive certain topics or even their purchasing habits”

The entire point of this thread is to speak freely the truth regarding Jen, to help break Jen’s parasocial spell over her viewers that she then uses to extort them of money. Legacy collective is marketed as a community. Join and waste over 30% of each dollar you donate before it ever reaches the actual recipient because now you’ll belong to Jen’s giving crew and if you give enough you’ll get a dinner in her yard. It’s a huge con built on this false sense of intimacy she curates with her online followers. As many former ANCers have arrested what she sells as her persona is not the reality. She’s highly skilled manipulator and user.
In fact virtually everything she does is to seduce viewers into her web of false connection so she can then profit from them: book club, endless links/promotions, legacy collective, me-courses, etc…
So this thread is like a recovery group from her cult of personality. Here we are able to figure out what is the truth. Sure there is the occasional shaming post by one of her crew but that hasn’t stopped this from being a safe place to unpack her crazy. I’ve appreciated your insights and learned a lot about how these influencers work. They are a little like sirens singing from the cliffs. It’s all sounds so beautiful but watch out they could care less when you crash into the jagged rocks. Their perfect sounding lives are fantasy, the evidence is piling up. We are the awakened ones steering our ships back out to sea.
Jen has 832K followers on FB who can sing her praises. Her trolls trying to shame us into silence can just go back into her alternate reality and leave us to our observations. It’s hurting no one and potentially helping some of us get our bearings after years of Jen’s gaslighting.

Anonymous wrote:Some of this praise for Brandon reminds me a bit of the Johnny Depp fans who supported him without wanting to know about what might really have been going on. (Not implying abuse by Brandon.)

I think it’s only comparative praise. Ie- compared to Jen, Brandon sure is the post divorce winner. He has been mature about the split, respectful, and seems to have moved on to a partner who makes him happy.

Meanwhile Jen is a too blond too red faced schilling lost person lecturing us all about how to be alone and how to be strong while she latches on to and finds worth and definition through a different, recent relationship.

He’s definitely the more relatable and likable one- post divorce.

Anonymous wrote:Some of this praise for Brandon reminds me a bit of the Johnny Depp fans who supported him without wanting to know about what might really have been going on. (Not implying abuse by Brandon.)

I totally disagree. We know a good bit about Johnny Depp’s behavior because there was evidence. Everything against Brandon has been speculation. All we know about these bozos is what they put out on social media and frankly, Brandon has appeared much more mature and self aware than Jen has.

Some of this praise for Brandon reminds me a bit of the Johnny Depp fans who supported him without wanting to know about what might really have been going on. (Not implying abuse by Brandon.)

Anonymous wrote:We don’t think we are in a parasocial relationship with you Jen. We are just judging your actions because you put them out there for the world to see. You are a con artist and we are calling it as we see it. Parasocial relationship?!!

Gaslight much?

Yes, and I’m not even one who posts a lot on this thread or ever did like Jen- but as a women who divorced before her I find her to be a beacon of what not to do. To so publicly be so flailing for attention and affirmation is so terribly cringey thirsty I just can’t even stand watching her without positively squirming.

She’s really helped me feel proud of myself and the work I have done to heal from an actually abusive/addiction scenario. I will never put a boyfriend on socials, let alone declare some new guy a “forever”- just so much ugh! I’d find people talking about me to be parasocial as I keep my dating and romantic like 100% private. With Jen, who shoves new man down our throats and so publicly tried to shame Brandon ……we’ll, it’s simply consuming the media she creates. She’s 100% in charge of this thread.

If Jen wants people to stop talking about her she ought to stop giving them content. Full stop.

Since Brandon is engaged, passive aggressive post coming from Jen in 5,4,3,2…

We don’t think we are in a parasocial relationship with you Jen. We are just judging your actions because you put them out there for the world to see. You are a con artist and we are calling it as we see it. Parasocial relationship?!!

Gaslight much?

Y’all mentally ill

Anonymous wrote:That walking out of the graduation thing that Jen seemed to think was so cool and funny really confirmed to me that she is the kind of mom that laughs at her bratty kids yet seems to want to get away from them as much as possible. That behavior really showed some of the dreaded "privilege" that she and her followers love to identify in the rest of us. I think it wouldn't be hard to find quite a few high school kids who would think it very hip to skip graduation. But there are also quite a few parents who would step in and tell the kid to get out on that stage and walk. Because of self respect, respect for your family who got you there, respect for a rite of passage that will have meaning down the road, and respect for your classmates, some of whom may actually appreciate the diploma they receive.

Hey friendly moms! I think it's very strange how committed some of you are to discussing a teenager's (at the time) personal life and decisions. Keep in mind, these children NEVER asked for their personal lives to be documented and shared for the world to see. They definitely did not ask for anyone to voice their opinion on anything either. They have been in public view since how old? Very young. Remember, I am saying the CHILDREN did not ask for any of this. Jen is another story. I would never judge what he did, especially if you have no verified personal knowledge of how the school, his peers, and his faculty reacted/felt

Dare I say, it certainly seems odd to be so preoccupied with an event from 2 years ago, where certainly every child and parent who attended the graduation could not give less of a sh-t about what one singular classmate did. If you want, I can tell you what this is called- a parasocial relationship. Please do some research into these and how negatively it can affect both you AND the REAL PEOPLE you are so freely discussing.

Her Instagram account appears to be shadow banned rn.