Anonymous
09/09/2021 20:49
Subject: Re:Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Before making a decision, please read the updated information from the APS website:
https://www.apsva.us/school-year-2021-22/health-safety-information/covid-19-testing/?fbclid=IwAR2KIfopA39fRt78DGXJsjOgWXNt01U2pt6ZtpYICX5k8UISSAKDOC-4KEE
"If a pool were to come up as a positive, the laboratory uses an algorithm to determine which samples to test for confirmation of which student(s) within the pool are positive. These confirmation results will be followed up with a running of the individual sample(s) identified to confirm positive status. {so you don't need to get a separate test on your own. The original sample is saved to run individually.}
During the confirmation period, the suspected positive student(s) in the pool who are identified using the algorithm will be excluded from in person instruction and activities {so not everyone in the pool}. The family can expect to receive definitive confirmation of the positive results after individual sample(s) are ran for confirmation which on average is 12-24 hours. The entire participants in the pool will not need to quarantine during this process unless they are identified as a suspected case using the algorithm on the pooled samples."
I have no idea how they can use an algorithm to figure out who in the pool needs to quarantine, but this sounds pretty reasonable to me. I will keep my child enrolled.
There is also some information from Resource Path that APS hasn't shared (at least not with me...): https://www.resourcepath.net/first-week-back-at-school-how-is-everyone-doing/?fbclid=IwAR0cRHH6WrtlP-PiJsKN61d9I9wzCBb5eOpmd7y1GVDIeNhleXIPlMuKdUk
https://www.apsva.us/school-year-2021-22/health-safety-information/covid-19-testing/?fbclid=IwAR2KIfopA39fRt78DGXJsjOgWXNt01U2pt6ZtpYICX5k8UISSAKDOC-4KEE
"If a pool were to come up as a positive, the laboratory uses an algorithm to determine which samples to test for confirmation of which student(s) within the pool are positive. These confirmation results will be followed up with a running of the individual sample(s) identified to confirm positive status. {so you don't need to get a separate test on your own. The original sample is saved to run individually.}
During the confirmation period, the suspected positive student(s) in the pool who are identified using the algorithm will be excluded from in person instruction and activities {so not everyone in the pool}. The family can expect to receive definitive confirmation of the positive results after individual sample(s) are ran for confirmation which on average is 12-24 hours. The entire participants in the pool will not need to quarantine during this process unless they are identified as a suspected case using the algorithm on the pooled samples."
I have no idea how they can use an algorithm to figure out who in the pool needs to quarantine, but this sounds pretty reasonable to me. I will keep my child enrolled.
There is also some information from Resource Path that APS hasn't shared (at least not with me...): https://www.resourcepath.net/first-week-back-at-school-how-is-everyone-doing/?fbclid=IwAR0cRHH6WrtlP-PiJsKN61d9I9wzCBb5eOpmd7y1GVDIeNhleXIPlMuKdUk
Anonymous
09/09/2021 20:06
Subject: Re:Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how to opt out if you’ve already signed up?
I emailed them to ask how to revoke my consent. Contact info is here. https://www.resourcepath.net/covid-19-testing-at-aps/
Will post here what I learn.
Thank you!
I haven't received a response back yet. Has anyone else emailed and gotten a response?
I decided to email them again and ask for confirmation, they responded immediately. So if anyone is looking to revoke, now seems to be a good time.
i asked for a confirmation of my revocation of consent and have gotten no response
Anonymous
09/09/2021 19:43
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Not just no. But hell no. I did everything I was supposed to do and Arlington f’d us. Not doing another thing to protect other people’s kids.
That’s the spirit.
Anonymous
09/09/2021 19:37
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Not just no. But hell no. I did everything I was supposed to do and Arlington f’d us. Not doing another thing to protect other people’s kids.
Anonymous
09/09/2021 19:33
Subject: Re:Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how to opt out if you’ve already signed up?
I emailed them to ask how to revoke my consent. Contact info is here. https://www.resourcepath.net/covid-19-testing-at-aps/
Will post here what I learn.
Thank you!
I haven't received a response back yet. Has anyone else emailed and gotten a response?
I decided to email them again and ask for confirmation, they responded immediately. So if anyone is looking to revoke, now seems to be a good time.
Anonymous
09/09/2021 19:29
Subject: Re:Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how to opt out if you’ve already signed up?
I emailed them to ask how to revoke my consent. Contact info is here. https://www.resourcepath.net/covid-19-testing-at-aps/
Will post here what I learn.
Thank you!
I haven't received a response back yet. Has anyone else emailed and gotten a response?
Anonymous
09/09/2021 18:17
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this a Zach Pope idea? Because it sounds like a ZP idea. Poor planning, certain to be even worse execution.
They changed to a pool test due to shortage of the other tests.
There is indeed a nationwide shortage of tests. And pool testing is in theory a fine way to go about this -- lots of schools do it.
What's lacking is any kind of info about how the pooled tests are being handled. If I knew there were limiting the pools to individual classrooms I would opt in, because then I'd know there was a case in my kids class and wouldn't mind getting a separate test. If they're tested by grade, that's different...I already know of a case in DD's grade and we were not affected by that, and shouldn't be. Random pools by school? No way am I in. So, if APS wants to increase participation they need to get this info out there. Unless they were just informed of the change in tests by the vendor...and don't yet have a plan.
Per parent who emailed w/ APS regarding these types of questions, the pools are by school.
Which parent? On AEM? Did they share a screenshot?
APE's Facebook page is where news and analyses on APS data takes place.
APE’s post has an update from Pope that it will be 6 to a pool. That’s definitely better but I still don’t trust aps not to unnecessarily quarantine my kid.
Anonymous
09/09/2021 17:39
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this a Zach Pope idea? Because it sounds like a ZP idea. Poor planning, certain to be even worse execution.
They changed to a pool test due to shortage of the other tests.
There is indeed a nationwide shortage of tests. And pool testing is in theory a fine way to go about this -- lots of schools do it.
What's lacking is any kind of info about how the pooled tests are being handled. If I knew there were limiting the pools to individual classrooms I would opt in, because then I'd know there was a case in my kids class and wouldn't mind getting a separate test. If they're tested by grade, that's different...I already know of a case in DD's grade and we were not affected by that, and shouldn't be. Random pools by school? No way am I in. So, if APS wants to increase participation they need to get this info out there. Unless they were just informed of the change in tests by the vendor...and don't yet have a plan.
Per parent who emailed w/ APS regarding these types of questions, the pools are by school.
Which parent? On AEM? Did they share a screenshot?
APE's Facebook page is where news and analyses on APS data takes place.
Can you share a screenshot of the email?
If not…
Anonymous
09/09/2021 17:27
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this a Zach Pope idea? Because it sounds like a ZP idea. Poor planning, certain to be even worse execution.
They changed to a pool test due to shortage of the other tests.
There is indeed a nationwide shortage of tests. And pool testing is in theory a fine way to go about this -- lots of schools do it.
What's lacking is any kind of info about how the pooled tests are being handled. If I knew there were limiting the pools to individual classrooms I would opt in, because then I'd know there was a case in my kids class and wouldn't mind getting a separate test. If they're tested by grade, that's different...I already know of a case in DD's grade and we were not affected by that, and shouldn't be. Random pools by school? No way am I in. So, if APS wants to increase participation they need to get this info out there. Unless they were just informed of the change in tests by the vendor...and don't yet have a plan.
Per parent who emailed w/ APS regarding these types of questions, the pools are by school.
Which parent? On AEM? Did they share a screenshot?
APE's Facebook page is where news and analyses on APS data takes place.
Anonymous
09/09/2021 16:29
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
I will believe it when I see it.
Anonymous
09/09/2021 15:59
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this a Zach Pope idea? Because it sounds like a ZP idea. Poor planning, certain to be even worse execution.
They changed to a pool test due to shortage of the other tests.
There is indeed a nationwide shortage of tests. And pool testing is in theory a fine way to go about this -- lots of schools do it.
What's lacking is any kind of info about how the pooled tests are being handled. If I knew there were limiting the pools to individual classrooms I would opt in, because then I'd know there was a case in my kids class and wouldn't mind getting a separate test. If they're tested by grade, that's different...I already know of a case in DD's grade and we were not affected by that, and shouldn't be. Random pools by school? No way am I in. So, if APS wants to increase participation they need to get this info out there. Unless they were just informed of the change in tests by the vendor...and don't yet have a plan.
Per parent who emailed w/ APS regarding these types of questions, the pools are by school.
Which parent? On AEM? Did they share a screenshot?
I think this is a reference to the APE facebook group.
Anonymous
09/09/2021 13:49
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this a Zach Pope idea? Because it sounds like a ZP idea. Poor planning, certain to be even worse execution.
They changed to a pool test due to shortage of the other tests.
There is indeed a nationwide shortage of tests. And pool testing is in theory a fine way to go about this -- lots of schools do it.
What's lacking is any kind of info about how the pooled tests are being handled. If I knew there were limiting the pools to individual classrooms I would opt in, because then I'd know there was a case in my kids class and wouldn't mind getting a separate test. If they're tested by grade, that's different...I already know of a case in DD's grade and we were not affected by that, and shouldn't be. Random pools by school? No way am I in. So, if APS wants to increase participation they need to get this info out there. Unless they were just informed of the change in tests by the vendor...and don't yet have a plan.
Per parent who emailed w/ APS regarding these types of questions, the pools are by school.
Which parent? On AEM? Did they share a screenshot?
Anonymous
09/09/2021 13:44
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this a Zach Pope idea? Because it sounds like a ZP idea. Poor planning, certain to be even worse execution.
They changed to a pool test due to shortage of the other tests.
There is indeed a nationwide shortage of tests. And pool testing is in theory a fine way to go about this -- lots of schools do it.
What's lacking is any kind of info about how the pooled tests are being handled. If I knew there were limiting the pools to individual classrooms I would opt in, because then I'd know there was a case in my kids class and wouldn't mind getting a separate test. If they're tested by grade, that's different...I already know of a case in DD's grade and we were not affected by that, and shouldn't be. Random pools by school? No way am I in. So, if APS wants to increase participation they need to get this info out there. Unless they were just informed of the change in tests by the vendor...and don't yet have a plan.
Per parent who emailed w/ APS regarding these types of questions, the pools are by school.
Anonymous
09/09/2021 13:31
Subject: Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this a Zach Pope idea? Because it sounds like a ZP idea. Poor planning, certain to be even worse execution.
They changed to a pool test due to shortage of the other tests.
There is indeed a nationwide shortage of tests. And pool testing is in theory a fine way to go about this -- lots of schools do it.
What's lacking is any kind of info about how the pooled tests are being handled. If I knew there were limiting the pools to individual classrooms I would opt in, because then I'd know there was a case in my kids class and wouldn't mind getting a separate test. If they're tested by grade, that's different...I already know of a case in DD's grade and we were not affected by that, and shouldn't be. Random pools by school? No way am I in. So, if APS wants to increase participation they need to get this info out there. Unless they were just informed of the change in tests by the vendor...and don't yet have a plan.
Considering the small number of students who have opted in thus far, I would expect that in order to get the 10-15 individual pool, there would need to potentially be students from 3-5 classrooms in each pool. Quarantining this many kids (and their contacts?) based on PCR results, that may be picking up long-gone infections, is asinine. This is a recipe for non-stop disruption for students, with ZERO public health benefit.
Anonymous
09/09/2021 13:13
Subject: Re:Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS
It's clear to me that we won't opt in. Poorly designed and disruptive. And Covid is not a huge risk for under-10s which my child is.
I am becoming disenchanted with Duran overall in management of the many decisions. I am deeply disappointed in Bridget Loft and what I read about the VLP issues; I am not one of those families but feel like APS is failing those children and families.
We love our elementary school and are so glad to be in person. But deeply disappointed in the higher APS administration in all this. They've been dealt a hard situation and won't make everyone happy, but could certainly do better.
I am becoming disenchanted with Duran overall in management of the many decisions. I am deeply disappointed in Bridget Loft and what I read about the VLP issues; I am not one of those families but feel like APS is failing those children and families.
We love our elementary school and are so glad to be in person. But deeply disappointed in the higher APS administration in all this. They've been dealt a hard situation and won't make everyone happy, but could certainly do better.