Anonymous
Post 10/14/2021 14:33     Subject: Re: US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics - The Commision Thread

Anonymous
Post 10/14/2021 12:38     Subject: US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics - The Commision Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now the right supports prison reform?

Oh, heavens no. It’s just that this Frank Wilhoit quote is, again, proven to be correct: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Jail is supposed to be awful and dehumanizing for some people, but it’s not supposed to be that way for conservative White men. They don’t support prison reform at all, they just don’t like consequences for themselves.


I absolutely agree. When I lived in NC, I had a coworker who was summoned not for jury duty, but to be part of a panel of citizens that was supposed to tour a local jail and then report their findings of the conditions in which the prisoners were held. Afterwards, she went on and on, making a big deal out of how awful jail is, just a wretched place, the last place you’d ever want to be. I asked her if her panel had stressed that in their findings, and she snapped at me, “It’s jail; it’s not supposed to be nice!”
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2021 09:56     Subject: US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics - The Commision Thread

Anonymous wrote:So now the right supports prison reform?

Oh, heavens no. It’s just that this Frank Wilhoit quote is, again, proven to be correct: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Jail is supposed to be awful and dehumanizing for some people, but it’s not supposed to be that way for conservative White men. They don’t support prison reform at all, they just don’t like consequences for themselves.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2021 23:06     Subject: US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics - The Commision Thread

Anonymous wrote:So now the right supports prison reform?


Yup, put some White guys in jail (even for valid reasons) and we will see prison reform sooner than we thought!
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2021 22:12     Subject: US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics - The Commision Thread

So now the right supports prison reform?
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2021 21:49     Subject: Re: US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics - The Commision Thread

Anonymous
Post 10/13/2021 20:31     Subject: US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics - The Commision Thread

Trump is going to argue that he, as former president, has more authority than the sitting president, after claiming the sitting president has sole authority during his presidency.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2021 20:25     Subject: US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics - The Commision Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The House needs to start enforcing subpoenas and the info needs to get turned over immediately so that Trump and his cronies can't forum shop to one of his FedSoc judicial appointees. There has GOT to be severe legal repercussions (as in jail time) for the people who incited and encouraged that attack on the Capitol. Otherwise, January 6th was just a warm up for what is coming next. The current Republican Party (the majority of it, not the few stalwart outliers like Liz Cheney) have abandoned any pretense of believing in democracy and are willing to embrace full-on authoritarianism if it enables them to retain power. Gerrymandering, legislation enabling state legislatures to overturn election results, voting suppression,. People who are shrugging their shoulders or engaging in whataboutism as related to the George Floyd protests are missing the point. (perhaps deliberately). The January 6 protesters attacked the Capitol with the deliberate intent of overturning an election. They were incited to those efforts by the incumbent president in a last ditch attempt to hold onto power illegally.

Last I read they were letting the clock play out and then they were talking about criminal contempt. Good. Who did the GOP throw in jail for 18 months back in the 1990s? Susan McDougal? And that was over nothing at all.

Susan McDougal was refusing to testify to a federal grand jury, not Congress.


Contempt of Congress and Obstruction of Justice are still criminal offenses and need to be prosecuted. Jail them.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2021 18:28     Subject: US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics - The Commision Thread

Anonymous wrote:The House needs to start enforcing subpoenas and the info needs to get turned over immediately so that Trump and his cronies can't forum shop to one of his FedSoc judicial appointees. There has GOT to be severe legal repercussions (as in jail time) for the people who incited and encouraged that attack on the Capitol. Otherwise, January 6th was just a warm up for what is coming next. The current Republican Party (the majority of it, not the few stalwart outliers like Liz Cheney) have abandoned any pretense of believing in democracy and are willing to embrace full-on authoritarianism if it enables them to retain power. Gerrymandering, legislation enabling state legislatures to overturn election results, voting suppression,. People who are shrugging their shoulders or engaging in whataboutism as related to the George Floyd protests are missing the point. (perhaps deliberately). The January 6 protesters attacked the Capitol with the deliberate intent of overturning an election. They were incited to those efforts by the incumbent president in a last ditch attempt to hold onto power illegally.


No one is shrugging their shoulders. They need to let the testimony date pass so the full force of the disregard of the subpoena can be enforced.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2021 18:07     Subject: Re: US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics - The Commision Thread

And here’s the subpoena to Jeffrey Clark.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2021 18:07     Subject: US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics - The Commision Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The House needs to start enforcing subpoenas and the info needs to get turned over immediately so that Trump and his cronies can't forum shop to one of his FedSoc judicial appointees. There has GOT to be severe legal repercussions (as in jail time) for the people who incited and encouraged that attack on the Capitol. Otherwise, January 6th was just a warm up for what is coming next. The current Republican Party (the majority of it, not the few stalwart outliers like Liz Cheney) have abandoned any pretense of believing in democracy and are willing to embrace full-on authoritarianism if it enables them to retain power. Gerrymandering, legislation enabling state legislatures to overturn election results, voting suppression,. People who are shrugging their shoulders or engaging in whataboutism as related to the George Floyd protests are missing the point. (perhaps deliberately). The January 6 protesters attacked the Capitol with the deliberate intent of overturning an election. They were incited to those efforts by the incumbent president in a last ditch attempt to hold onto power illegally.

Last I read they were letting the clock play out and then they were talking about criminal contempt. Good. Who did the GOP throw in jail for 18 months back in the 1990s? Susan McDougal? And that was over nothing at all.

Susan McDougal was refusing to testify to a federal grand jury, not Congress.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2021 17:50     Subject: US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics - The Commision Thread

Anonymous wrote:The House needs to start enforcing subpoenas and the info needs to get turned over immediately so that Trump and his cronies can't forum shop to one of his FedSoc judicial appointees. There has GOT to be severe legal repercussions (as in jail time) for the people who incited and encouraged that attack on the Capitol. Otherwise, January 6th was just a warm up for what is coming next. The current Republican Party (the majority of it, not the few stalwart outliers like Liz Cheney) have abandoned any pretense of believing in democracy and are willing to embrace full-on authoritarianism if it enables them to retain power. Gerrymandering, legislation enabling state legislatures to overturn election results, voting suppression,. People who are shrugging their shoulders or engaging in whataboutism as related to the George Floyd protests are missing the point. (perhaps deliberately). The January 6 protesters attacked the Capitol with the deliberate intent of overturning an election. They were incited to those efforts by the incumbent president in a last ditch attempt to hold onto power illegally.

Last I read they were letting the clock play out and then they were talking about criminal contempt. Good. Who did the GOP throw in jail for 18 months back in the 1990s? Susan McDougal? And that was over nothing at all.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2021 16:53     Subject: US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics - The Commision Thread

The House needs to start enforcing subpoenas and the info needs to get turned over immediately so that Trump and his cronies can't forum shop to one of his FedSoc judicial appointees. There has GOT to be severe legal repercussions (as in jail time) for the people who incited and encouraged that attack on the Capitol. Otherwise, January 6th was just a warm up for what is coming next. The current Republican Party (the majority of it, not the few stalwart outliers like Liz Cheney) have abandoned any pretense of believing in democracy and are willing to embrace full-on authoritarianism if it enables them to retain power. Gerrymandering, legislation enabling state legislatures to overturn election results, voting suppression,. People who are shrugging their shoulders or engaging in whataboutism as related to the George Floyd protests are missing the point. (perhaps deliberately). The January 6 protesters attacked the Capitol with the deliberate intent of overturning an election. They were incited to those efforts by the incumbent president in a last ditch attempt to hold onto power illegally.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2021 16:45     Subject: Re: US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics - The Commision Thread

Also confirms that the commission is subpoenaing Jeffrey Clark.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2021 16:40     Subject: US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics - The Commision Thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In order to invoke Executive Privilege, one needs to, you know, be an Executive.

I agree, but Trump’s team is going to want to litigate this.

Hmmm who will it be?