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Anonymous wrote:We are stuck in the of the CCL Clubs and everytime we bring up DA/ECNL/etc we get the BS line of CCL. Our TD needs to go, he isn’t creative and has no vision.

Your TD has little say in regards to being accepted into ECNL. Perhaps they have applied and been turned down, but considering the number of ECNL clubs in NOVA currently it is unlikely anymore local clubs will be added for quite some time.

I'd agree with this. The way ECNL-R moved into the Virginia market was pretty shrewd. Licensed a good, but smaller VPL league and then took their pick of the CCL teams they wanted to fill it out.

Which is really interesting if we are focused on league business strategy and completely irrelevant to whether parents and kids think it is an optical way to organize elite travel soccer at a lower cost with less time and total gas emitted by leagues chasing clubs and clubs chasing leagues. EDP has a great league for local top U12 teams before they go their separate ways into ecnl and mls next. It is a far better league structure than anything else I have seen. It’s too bad clubs just cannot refuse what a bunch of second-rate minds request from league quarters. A lot of the parents are to blame as well, especially the ones who know nothing about soccer and only look to patches for accomplishment.

There are only 5 teams south of Fredricksburg in ECNL-R. Not really that much travel for NOVA teams compared to the teams from further south.

Beach, Legacy, Tidewater, Strikers, Kickers, SOCA. So that's 6 teams plus Fredericksburg. Travel isn't ideal for those teams, but its better than it used to be.

If they go North/South it might be bad for one or two other clubs (PWSI?) if they get grouped with the South teams. It should be great for everyone else in NOVA though.

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Anonymous wrote:We are stuck in the of the CCL Clubs and everytime we bring up DA/ECNL/etc we get the BS line of CCL. Our TD needs to go, he isn’t creative and has no vision.

Your TD has little say in regards to being accepted into ECNL. Perhaps they have applied and been turned down, but considering the number of ECNL clubs in NOVA currently it is unlikely anymore local clubs will be added for quite some time.

I'd agree with this. The way ECNL-R moved into the Virginia market was pretty shrewd. Licensed a good, but smaller VPL league and then took their pick of the CCL teams they wanted to fill it out.

Which is really interesting if we are focused on league business strategy and completely irrelevant to whether parents and kids think it is an optical way to organize elite travel soccer at a lower cost with less time and total gas emitted by leagues chasing clubs and clubs chasing leagues. EDP has a great league for local top U12 teams before they go their separate ways into ecnl and mls next. It is a far better league structure than anything else I have seen. It’s too bad clubs just cannot refuse what a bunch of second-rate minds request from league quarters. A lot of the parents are to blame as well, especially the ones who know nothing about soccer and only look to patches for accomplishment.

There are only 5 teams south of Fredricksburg in ECNL-R. Not really that much travel for NOVA teams compared to the teams from further south.

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Anonymous wrote:We are stuck in the of the CCL Clubs and everytime we bring up DA/ECNL/etc we get the BS line of CCL. Our TD needs to go, he isn’t creative and has no vision.

Your TD has little say in regards to being accepted into ECNL. Perhaps they have applied and been turned down, but considering the number of ECNL clubs in NOVA currently it is unlikely anymore local clubs will be added for quite some time.

I'd agree with this. The way ECNL-R moved into the Virginia market was pretty shrewd. Licensed a good, but smaller VPL league and then took their pick of the CCL teams they wanted to fill it out.

Which is really interesting if we are focused on league business strategy and completely irrelevant to whether parents and kids think it is an optical way to organize elite travel soccer at a lower cost with less time and total gas emitted by leagues chasing clubs and clubs chasing leagues. EDP has a great league for local top U12 teams before they go their separate ways into ecnl and mls next. It is a far better league structure than anything else I have seen. It’s too bad clubs just cannot refuse what a bunch of second-rate minds request from league quarters. A lot of the parents are to blame as well, especially the ones who know nothing about soccer and only look to patches for accomplishment.

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Anonymous wrote:We are stuck in the of the CCL Clubs and everytime we bring up DA/ECNL/etc we get the BS line of CCL. Our TD needs to go, he isn’t creative and has no vision.

Your TD has little say in regards to being accepted into ECNL. Perhaps they have applied and been turned down, but considering the number of ECNL clubs in NOVA currently it is unlikely anymore local clubs will be added for quite some time.

I'd agree with this. The way ECNL-R moved into the Virginia market was pretty shrewd. Licensed a good, but smaller VPL league and then took their pick of the CCL teams they wanted to fill it out.

Which is really interesting if we are focused on league business strategy and completely irrelevant to whether parents and kids think it is an optical way to organize elite travel soccer at a lower cost with less time and total gas emitted by leagues chasing clubs and clubs chasing leagues. EDP has a great league for local top U12 teams before they go their separate ways into ecnl and mls next. It is a far better league structure than anything else I have seen. It’s too bad clubs just cannot refuse what a bunch of second-rate minds request from league quarters. A lot of the parents are to blame as well, especially the ones who know nothing about soccer and only look to patches for accomplishment.

Promotion relegation does not sell well to parents. How many parents who have their kid try out for the 'elite' club would be upset if they get relegated in favor of the more local club (or, horror of horrors, their own club's B team). Right now the big clubs can say to parents "if we pick your kid, they will play at x level in y league" No matter what, the A team kids will play at a higher level than the B team kids and both will be in a more prestigious league than that little local club in your neighborhood.

I'm not sure if this could actually happen with the saturation of the market, but most parents are somewhat rational and would not object having their kid dropped to a lower team if the lower team was a good fit and received appropriate attention and training. Some of the larger clubs manage this adequately (Bethesda comes to mind, SAC also has more than one strong team in an age group). Most clubs don't give the attention to B & C teams and don't have the talent pool for those teams to be a good fit for the players on the cusp of making the top team.

if teams are in promotion/relegation leagues, how would parents of kids on the top team react if the B team got promoted and the A team got relegated both in Fall and Spring. You could easily have a situation where the B team ends up playing at a higher level than the A team. We're seeing this happening in DD's EDP league where 1 club has three teams in the division and all are near the bottom

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Anonymous wrote:We are stuck in the of the CCL Clubs and everytime we bring up DA/ECNL/etc we get the BS line of CCL. Our TD needs to go, he isn’t creative and has no vision.

Your TD has little say in regards to being accepted into ECNL. Perhaps they have applied and been turned down, but considering the number of ECNL clubs in NOVA currently it is unlikely anymore local clubs will be added for quite some time.

I'd agree with this. The way ECNL-R moved into the Virginia market was pretty shrewd. Licensed a good, but smaller VPL league and then took their pick of the CCL teams they wanted to fill it out.

Which is really interesting if we are focused on league business strategy and completely irrelevant to whether parents and kids think it is an optical way to organize elite travel soccer at a lower cost with less time and total gas emitted by leagues chasing clubs and clubs chasing leagues. EDP has a great league for local top U12 teams before they go their separate ways into ecnl and mls next. It is a far better league structure than anything else I have seen. It’s too bad clubs just cannot refuse what a bunch of second-rate minds request from league quarters. A lot of the parents are to blame as well, especially the ones who know nothing about soccer and only look to patches for accomplishment.

Promotion relegation does not sell well to parents. How many parents who have their kid try out for the 'elite' club would be upset if they get relegated in favor of the more local club (or, horror of horrors, their own club's B team). Right now the big clubs can say to parents "if we pick your kid, they will play at x level in y league" No matter what, the A team kids will play at a higher level than the B team kids and both will be in a more prestigious league than that little local club in your neighborhood.

I'm not sure if this could actually happen with the saturation of the market, but most parents are somewhat rational and would not object having their kid dropped to a lower team if the lower team was a good fit and received appropriate attention and training. Some of the larger clubs manage this adequately (Bethesda comes to mind, SAC also has more than one strong team in an age group). Most clubs don't give the attention to B & C teams and don't have the talent pool for those teams to be a good fit for the players on the cusp of making the top team.

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Anonymous wrote:We are stuck in the of the CCL Clubs and everytime we bring up DA/ECNL/etc we get the BS line of CCL. Our TD needs to go, he isn’t creative and has no vision.

Your TD has little say in regards to being accepted into ECNL. Perhaps they have applied and been turned down, but considering the number of ECNL clubs in NOVA currently it is unlikely anymore local clubs will be added for quite some time.

I'd agree with this. The way ECNL-R moved into the Virginia market was pretty shrewd. Licensed a good, but smaller VPL league and then took their pick of the CCL teams they wanted to fill it out.

Which is really interesting if we are focused on league business strategy and completely irrelevant to whether parents and kids think it is an optical way to organize elite travel soccer at a lower cost with less time and total gas emitted by leagues chasing clubs and clubs chasing leagues. EDP has a great league for local top U12 teams before they go their separate ways into ecnl and mls next. It is a far better league structure than anything else I have seen. It’s too bad clubs just cannot refuse what a bunch of second-rate minds request from league quarters. A lot of the parents are to blame as well, especially the ones who know nothing about soccer and only look to patches for accomplishment.

Promotion relegation does not sell well to parents. How many parents who have their kid try out for the 'elite' club would be upset if they get relegated in favor of the more local club (or, horror of horrors, their own club's B team). Right now the big clubs can say to parents "if we pick your kid, they will play at x level in y league" No matter what, the A team kids will play at a higher level than the B team kids and both will be in a more prestigious league than that little local club in your neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:We are stuck in the of the CCL Clubs and everytime we bring up DA/ECNL/etc we get the BS line of CCL. Our TD needs to go, he isn’t creative and has no vision.

Your TD has little say in regards to being accepted into ECNL. Perhaps they have applied and been turned down, but considering the number of ECNL clubs in NOVA currently it is unlikely anymore local clubs will be added for quite some time.

I'd agree with this. The way ECNL-R moved into the Virginia market was pretty shrewd. Licensed a good, but smaller VPL league and then took their pick of the CCL teams they wanted to fill it out.

Which is really interesting if we are focused on league business strategy and completely irrelevant to whether parents and kids think it is an optical way to organize elite travel soccer at a lower cost with less time and total gas emitted by leagues chasing clubs and clubs chasing leagues. EDP has a great league for local top U12 teams before they go their separate ways into ecnl and mls next. It is a far better league structure than anything else I have seen. It’s too bad clubs just cannot refuse what a bunch of second-rate minds request from league quarters. A lot of the parents are to blame as well, especially the ones who know nothing about soccer and only look to patches for accomplishment.

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Anonymous wrote:We are stuck in the of the CCL Clubs and everytime we bring up DA/ECNL/etc we get the BS line of CCL. Our TD needs to go, he isn’t creative and has no vision.

Your TD has little say in regards to being accepted into ECNL. Perhaps they have applied and been turned down, but considering the number of ECNL clubs in NOVA currently it is unlikely anymore local clubs will be added for quite some time.

I'd agree with this. The way ECNL-R moved into the Virginia market was pretty shrewd. Licensed a good, but smaller VPL league and then took their pick of the CCL teams they wanted to fill it out.

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Anonymous wrote:We are stuck in the of the CCL Clubs and everytime we bring up DA/ECNL/etc we get the BS line of CCL. Our TD needs to go, he isn’t creative and has no vision.

Your TD has little say in regards to being accepted into ECNL. Perhaps they have applied and been turned down, but considering the number of ECNL clubs in NOVA currently it is unlikely anymore local clubs will be added for quite some time.

Anonymous wrote:We are stuck in the of the CCL Clubs and everytime we bring up DA/ECNL/etc we get the BS line of CCL. Our TD needs to go, he isn’t creative and has no vision.

Anonymous wrote:We are stuck in the of the CCL Clubs and everytime we bring up DA/ECNL/etc we get the BS line of CCL. Our TD needs to go, he isn’t creative and has no vision.

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Anonymous wrote:We are stuck in the of the CCL Clubs and everytime we bring up DA/ECNL/etc we get the BS line of CCL. Our TD needs to go, he isn’t creative and has no vision.

This is a pretty dumb belief. You take your kid to the club that offers the product that you want.

EDP is a good option that more Virginia teams should look at. It's based on how good your team is and not just the club you're at. Pro/reg do happen so you play competitive teams.

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Anonymous wrote:We are stuck in the of the CCL Clubs and everytime we bring up DA/ECNL/etc we get the BS line of CCL. Our TD needs to go, he isn’t creative and has no vision.

This is a pretty dumb belief. You take your kid to the club that offers the product that you want.

EDP is a good option that more Virginia teams should look at. It's based on how good your team is and not just the club you're at. Pro/reg do happen so you play competitive teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington leaving is the last nail in the coffin

Rest of the clubs will play the likes of Lmvsc

There are still a few solid clubs like Herndon, Alexandria, Richmond, and SYA. But it’s shrinking fast.

Alexandria jst had MLSnext expanded up to its older age groups.

source？

U16 practice last night from the coach's mouth.