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Anonymous wrote:Since most Americans, including Democrats and black Americans, are in favor of voter ID requirements, what is it that those who are pushing against voter ID requirements are angling for?

Great question.

It isn’t being done in good faith. It is intended to suppress black and Latino and young voters. It may look neutral to you but the people pushing it know that their state and local election officials will always apply rules more strictly to obstruct black voters. They will make it harder for some people to get the required IDs or to update IDs and they will continue to put up other obstacles to suppress black votes, e.g. rigging precinct size, location, capacity, staffing to ensure long lines and waits. These racists cannot be trusted to enforce election laws fairly and equally. They have no intention of doing so. This is not targeted at fraud. It is targeted at depressing turnout among certain types of eligible voters.

So this is about what you FEEL their goals are. There's a whole lot of hypothesizing and impugning motives in these discussions. There are many states that require voters to have ID that are not Republican led states.

DP. I have not seen one reason for voter ID laws backed up with evidence for their necessity on this thread. It’s ironic that you are so dismissive of FEELINGS because that’s the only reason you want voter ID.

Countries all over the world require voter ID. Are they all paranoid? Services and purchases of all kinds require ID. Should the US stop with all the nonsense?

It's pointless, as there is one crazy lady on this thread incessantly rambling on about all of the people who can't vote because they never got an id. These people spent their entire lives unsuccessfully trying to get their birth certificate that was destroyed by the sandanistas. To make matters worse, they have spinobifida and cant leave the house. It's LOCO!

Why is it so hard for you to simply provide any evidence of all that there is an actual problem that needs solved? I know it is much easier to make fun of people but it’s rather transparent that you have your own agenda and don’t want to really debate the issue.

Can you show any evidence that people are living life with no form of ID? How many do you know?

No- I’m not the one proposing a new requirement- YOU ARE. Prove that this is needed. The person making the proposal needs to establish its necessity. The education system is clearly failing people here.

If you use "needs solved" in a sentence you shouldn't be talking about the education system failing others.

OooOoooh sick burn bro 😎

I see you have no actual response. Carry on!

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Anonymous wrote:Since most Americans, including Democrats and black Americans, are in favor of voter ID requirements, what is it that those who are pushing against voter ID requirements are angling for?

Great question.

It isn’t being done in good faith. It is intended to suppress black and Latino and young voters. It may look neutral to you but the people pushing it know that their state and local election officials will always apply rules more strictly to obstruct black voters. They will make it harder for some people to get the required IDs or to update IDs and they will continue to put up other obstacles to suppress black votes, e.g. rigging precinct size, location, capacity, staffing to ensure long lines and waits. These racists cannot be trusted to enforce election laws fairly and equally. They have no intention of doing so. This is not targeted at fraud. It is targeted at depressing turnout among certain types of eligible voters.

So this is about what you FEEL their goals are. There's a whole lot of hypothesizing and impugning motives in these discussions. There are many states that require voters to have ID that are not Republican led states.

DP. I have not seen one reason for voter ID laws backed up with evidence for their necessity on this thread. It’s ironic that you are so dismissive of FEELINGS because that’s the only reason you want voter ID.

Countries all over the world require voter ID. Are they all paranoid? Services and purchases of all kinds require ID. Should the US stop with all the nonsense?

It's pointless, as there is one crazy lady on this thread incessantly rambling on about all of the people who can't vote because they never got an id. These people spent their entire lives unsuccessfully trying to get their birth certificate that was destroyed by the sandanistas. To make matters worse, they have spinobifida and cant leave the house. It's LOCO!

Why is it so hard for you to simply provide any evidence of all that there is an actual problem that needs solved? I know it is much easier to make fun of people but it’s rather transparent that you have your own agenda and don’t want to really debate the issue.

Can you show any evidence that people are living life with no form of ID? How many do you know?

NP, but I posted a link several pages back from NPR. Just because you don’t know anyone without an ID, doesn’t mean they don’t exist. This is an old story, but it lays out several of the roadblocks that people may face:

https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/promoting-access-ballot/out-cold-age-84-wisconsins-ruthelle-frank-fights-her

Here is another. Many times there is a small clerical error that they want people to pay hundreds of dollars to fix (which they may not have). See also where this man had to find a way to get to the county he was born in because there are no computerized records before 1950:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/getting-a-photo-id-so-you-can-vote-is-easy-unless-youre-poor-black-latino-or-elderly/2016/05/23/8d5474ec-20f0-11e6-8690-f14ca9de2972_story.html

If you care to simply Google, there are literally millions of adults who do not have a federal ID for one reason or another.

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Anonymous wrote:Since most Americans, including Democrats and black Americans, are in favor of voter ID requirements, what is it that those who are pushing against voter ID requirements are angling for?

Great question.

It isn’t being done in good faith. It is intended to suppress black and Latino and young voters. It may look neutral to you but the people pushing it know that their state and local election officials will always apply rules more strictly to obstruct black voters. They will make it harder for some people to get the required IDs or to update IDs and they will continue to put up other obstacles to suppress black votes, e.g. rigging precinct size, location, capacity, staffing to ensure long lines and waits. These racists cannot be trusted to enforce election laws fairly and equally. They have no intention of doing so. This is not targeted at fraud. It is targeted at depressing turnout among certain types of eligible voters.

So this is about what you FEEL their goals are. There's a whole lot of hypothesizing and impugning motives in these discussions. There are many states that require voters to have ID that are not Republican led states.

DP. I have not seen one reason for voter ID laws backed up with evidence for their necessity on this thread. It’s ironic that you are so dismissive of FEELINGS because that’s the only reason you want voter ID.

Countries all over the world require voter ID. Are they all paranoid? Services and purchases of all kinds require ID. Should the US stop with all the nonsense?

It's pointless, as there is one crazy lady on this thread incessantly rambling on about all of the people who can't vote because they never got an id. These people spent their entire lives unsuccessfully trying to get their birth certificate that was destroyed by the sandanistas. To make matters worse, they have spinobifida and cant leave the house. It's LOCO!

Belittling reality — even circumstances that are outside of your own limited experience, doesn’t make it go away. Instead of inventing things about “sandanistas” and mocking handicapped people, why not just propose some practical solutions to the issues raised? If you want a universal ID, supposedly to prevent voter fraud, then come up with practical ways to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:Since most Americans, including Democrats and black Americans, are in favor of voter ID requirements, what is it that those who are pushing against voter ID requirements are angling for?

Great question.

It isn’t being done in good faith. It is intended to suppress black and Latino and young voters. It may look neutral to you but the people pushing it know that their state and local election officials will always apply rules more strictly to obstruct black voters. They will make it harder for some people to get the required IDs or to update IDs and they will continue to put up other obstacles to suppress black votes, e.g. rigging precinct size, location, capacity, staffing to ensure long lines and waits. These racists cannot be trusted to enforce election laws fairly and equally. They have no intention of doing so. This is not targeted at fraud. It is targeted at depressing turnout among certain types of eligible voters.

So this is about what you FEEL their goals are. There's a whole lot of hypothesizing and impugning motives in these discussions. There are many states that require voters to have ID that are not Republican led states.

DP. I have not seen one reason for voter ID laws backed up with evidence for their necessity on this thread. It’s ironic that you are so dismissive of FEELINGS because that’s the only reason you want voter ID.

Countries all over the world require voter ID. Are they all paranoid? Services and purchases of all kinds require ID. Should the US stop with all the nonsense?

Countries all over the world make it EASIER for their citizens to vote — with national holidays, automatic registration, and expanding rather than reducing different voting options. “All kinds”? Wow! If you’re going to argue for the relevance of your point, generalizations such as “all kinds” and unspecified “nonsense “ really aren’t helping.

This is starting to feel like trying to get sense out of Tucker Carlson: unsupported opinionated generalizations that are trying to masquerade as genuine arguments when, really, they’re more like entertainment.

From two pages back. I suppose you can choose to hop on a 17 page thread without reading anything that came before, but it makes one look like an ass. Allow me to spoon feed you:

You need ID to cash a check.
You need ID to buy alcohol.
You need ID to buy tobacco.
You need ID to buy a gun.
You need ID to get into many govt buildings.
You need ID to get onto secure federal property.
You need ID to rent or buy an apartment or home.
You need ID to get on a plane.
You need ID to get a library card.
You need ID to buy a fishing license.
You need ID to open a bank account.
You need ID to receive govt benefits like WIC and EBT.
You need ID to apply for a job.
You need ID to buy or rent a car.
You need ID to go into any school building in the country.
You need ID to get medical treatment.
You need ID to apply to colleges.
You need ID to get into a many bars/clubs.
You need ID to get into many community centers / pools

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Anonymous wrote:Since most Americans, including Democrats and black Americans, are in favor of voter ID requirements, what is it that those who are pushing against voter ID requirements are angling for?

Great question.

It isn’t being done in good faith. It is intended to suppress black and Latino and young voters. It may look neutral to you but the people pushing it know that their state and local election officials will always apply rules more strictly to obstruct black voters. They will make it harder for some people to get the required IDs or to update IDs and they will continue to put up other obstacles to suppress black votes, e.g. rigging precinct size, location, capacity, staffing to ensure long lines and waits. These racists cannot be trusted to enforce election laws fairly and equally. They have no intention of doing so. This is not targeted at fraud. It is targeted at depressing turnout among certain types of eligible voters.

So this is about what you FEEL their goals are. There's a whole lot of hypothesizing and impugning motives in these discussions. There are many states that require voters to have ID that are not Republican led states.

DP. I have not seen one reason for voter ID laws backed up with evidence for their necessity on this thread. It’s ironic that you are so dismissive of FEELINGS because that’s the only reason you want voter ID.

Countries all over the world require voter ID. Are they all paranoid? Services and purchases of all kinds require ID. Should the US stop with all the nonsense?

It's pointless, as there is one crazy lady on this thread incessantly rambling on about all of the people who can't vote because they never got an id. These people spent their entire lives unsuccessfully trying to get their birth certificate that was destroyed by the sandanistas. To make matters worse, they have spinobifida and cant leave the house. It's LOCO!

Why is it so hard for you to simply provide any evidence of all that there is an actual problem that needs solved? I know it is much easier to make fun of people but it’s rather transparent that you have your own agenda and don’t want to really debate the issue.

Can you show any evidence that people are living life with no form of ID? How many do you know?

No- I’m not the one proposing a new requirement- YOU ARE. Prove that this is needed. The person making the proposal needs to establish its necessity. The education system is clearly failing people here.

If you use "needs solved" in a sentence you shouldn't be talking about the education system failing others.

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Anonymous wrote:Since most Americans, including Democrats and black Americans, are in favor of voter ID requirements, what is it that those who are pushing against voter ID requirements are angling for?

Great question.

It isn’t being done in good faith. It is intended to suppress black and Latino and young voters. It may look neutral to you but the people pushing it know that their state and local election officials will always apply rules more strictly to obstruct black voters. They will make it harder for some people to get the required IDs or to update IDs and they will continue to put up other obstacles to suppress black votes, e.g. rigging precinct size, location, capacity, staffing to ensure long lines and waits. These racists cannot be trusted to enforce election laws fairly and equally. They have no intention of doing so. This is not targeted at fraud. It is targeted at depressing turnout among certain types of eligible voters.

So this is about what you FEEL their goals are. There's a whole lot of hypothesizing and impugning motives in these discussions. There are many states that require voters to have ID that are not Republican led states.

DP. I have not seen one reason for voter ID laws backed up with evidence for their necessity on this thread. It’s ironic that you are so dismissive of FEELINGS because that’s the only reason you want voter ID.

Countries all over the world require voter ID. Are they all paranoid? Services and purchases of all kinds require ID. Should the US stop with all the nonsense?

It's pointless, as there is one crazy lady on this thread incessantly rambling on about all of the people who can't vote because they never got an id. These people spent their entire lives unsuccessfully trying to get their birth certificate that was destroyed by the sandanistas. To make matters worse, they have spinobifida and cant leave the house. It's LOCO!

You seem unhinged here. Perhaps all of your incessant rambling and frothing is taking a toll? I do agree with you about the “pointless” part. Spewing talking points is not the same as offering actual solutions— even to ersatz so-called problems.
Hint: You seem very sure of both the number and gender of the posters that you are responding to. At best, that’s delusional. Since you are the only one here who has mentioned “Sandinistas”, it would seem that you are somehow trying to argue with yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:Since most Americans, including Democrats and black Americans, are in favor of voter ID requirements, what is it that those who are pushing against voter ID requirements are angling for?

Great question.

It isn’t being done in good faith. It is intended to suppress black and Latino and young voters. It may look neutral to you but the people pushing it know that their state and local election officials will always apply rules more strictly to obstruct black voters. They will make it harder for some people to get the required IDs or to update IDs and they will continue to put up other obstacles to suppress black votes, e.g. rigging precinct size, location, capacity, staffing to ensure long lines and waits. These racists cannot be trusted to enforce election laws fairly and equally. They have no intention of doing so. This is not targeted at fraud. It is targeted at depressing turnout among certain types of eligible voters.

So this is about what you FEEL their goals are. There's a whole lot of hypothesizing and impugning motives in these discussions. There are many states that require voters to have ID that are not Republican led states.

DP. I have not seen one reason for voter ID laws backed up with evidence for their necessity on this thread. It’s ironic that you are so dismissive of FEELINGS because that’s the only reason you want voter ID.

Countries all over the world require voter ID. Are they all paranoid? Services and purchases of all kinds require ID. Should the US stop with all the nonsense?

Countries all over the world make it EASIER for their citizens to vote — with national holidays, automatic registration, and expanding rather than reducing different voting options. “All kinds”? Wow! If you’re going to argue for the relevance of your point, generalizations such as “all kinds” and unspecified “nonsense “ really aren’t helping.

This is starting to feel like trying to get sense out of Tucker Carlson: unsupported opinionated generalizations that are trying to masquerade as genuine arguments when, really, they’re more like entertainment.

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Anonymous wrote:Since most Americans, including Democrats and black Americans, are in favor of voter ID requirements, what is it that those who are pushing against voter ID requirements are angling for?

Great question.

It isn’t being done in good faith. It is intended to suppress black and Latino and young voters. It may look neutral to you but the people pushing it know that their state and local election officials will always apply rules more strictly to obstruct black voters. They will make it harder for some people to get the required IDs or to update IDs and they will continue to put up other obstacles to suppress black votes, e.g. rigging precinct size, location, capacity, staffing to ensure long lines and waits. These racists cannot be trusted to enforce election laws fairly and equally. They have no intention of doing so. This is not targeted at fraud. It is targeted at depressing turnout among certain types of eligible voters.

So this is about what you FEEL their goals are. There's a whole lot of hypothesizing and impugning motives in these discussions. There are many states that require voters to have ID that are not Republican led states.

DP. I have not seen one reason for voter ID laws backed up with evidence for their necessity on this thread. It’s ironic that you are so dismissive of FEELINGS because that’s the only reason you want voter ID.

Countries all over the world require voter ID. Are they all paranoid? Services and purchases of all kinds require ID. Should the US stop with all the nonsense?

It's pointless, as there is one crazy lady on this thread incessantly rambling on about all of the people who can't vote because they never got an id. These people spent their entire lives unsuccessfully trying to get their birth certificate that was destroyed by the sandanistas. To make matters worse, they have spinobifida and cant leave the house. It's LOCO!

Why is it so hard for you to simply provide any evidence of all that there is an actual problem that needs solved? I know it is much easier to make fun of people but it’s rather transparent that you have your own agenda and don’t want to really debate the issue.

Can you show any evidence that people are living life with no form of ID? How many do you know?

No- I’m not the one proposing a new requirement- YOU ARE. Prove that this is needed. The person making the proposal needs to establish its necessity. The education system is clearly failing people here.

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Anonymous wrote:Since most Americans, including Democrats and black Americans, are in favor of voter ID requirements, what is it that those who are pushing against voter ID requirements are angling for?

Great question.

It isn’t being done in good faith. It is intended to suppress black and Latino and young voters. It may look neutral to you but the people pushing it know that their state and local election officials will always apply rules more strictly to obstruct black voters. They will make it harder for some people to get the required IDs or to update IDs and they will continue to put up other obstacles to suppress black votes, e.g. rigging precinct size, location, capacity, staffing to ensure long lines and waits. These racists cannot be trusted to enforce election laws fairly and equally. They have no intention of doing so. This is not targeted at fraud. It is targeted at depressing turnout among certain types of eligible voters.

So this is about what you FEEL their goals are. There's a whole lot of hypothesizing and impugning motives in these discussions. There are many states that require voters to have ID that are not Republican led states.

DP. I have not seen one reason for voter ID laws backed up with evidence for their necessity on this thread. It’s ironic that you are so dismissive of FEELINGS because that’s the only reason you want voter ID.

Countries all over the world require voter ID. Are they all paranoid? Services and purchases of all kinds require ID. Should the US stop with all the nonsense?

It's pointless, as there is one crazy lady on this thread incessantly rambling on about all of the people who can't vote because they never got an id. These people spent their entire lives unsuccessfully trying to get their birth certificate that was destroyed by the sandanistas. To make matters worse, they have spinobifida and cant leave the house. It's LOCO!

Why is it so hard for you to simply provide any evidence of all that there is an actual problem that needs solved? I know it is much easier to make fun of people but it’s rather transparent that you have your own agenda and don’t want to really debate the issue.

Can you show any evidence that people are living life with no form of ID? How many do you know?

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Anonymous wrote:Since most Americans, including Democrats and black Americans, are in favor of voter ID requirements, what is it that those who are pushing against voter ID requirements are angling for?

Great question.

It isn’t being done in good faith. It is intended to suppress black and Latino and young voters. It may look neutral to you but the people pushing it know that their state and local election officials will always apply rules more strictly to obstruct black voters. They will make it harder for some people to get the required IDs or to update IDs and they will continue to put up other obstacles to suppress black votes, e.g. rigging precinct size, location, capacity, staffing to ensure long lines and waits. These racists cannot be trusted to enforce election laws fairly and equally. They have no intention of doing so. This is not targeted at fraud. It is targeted at depressing turnout among certain types of eligible voters.

So this is about what you FEEL their goals are. There's a whole lot of hypothesizing and impugning motives in these discussions. There are many states that require voters to have ID that are not Republican led states.

DP. I have not seen one reason for voter ID laws backed up with evidence for their necessity on this thread. It’s ironic that you are so dismissive of FEELINGS because that’s the only reason you want voter ID.

Countries all over the world require voter ID. Are they all paranoid? Services and purchases of all kinds require ID. Should the US stop with all the nonsense?

It's pointless, as there is one crazy lady on this thread incessantly rambling on about all of the people who can't vote because they never got an id. These people spent their entire lives unsuccessfully trying to get their birth certificate that was destroyed by the sandanistas. To make matters worse, they have spinobifida and cant leave the house. It's LOCO!

Why is it so hard for you to simply provide any evidence of all that there is an actual problem that needs solved? I know it is much easier to make fun of people but it’s rather transparent that you have your own agenda and don’t want to really debate the issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Since most Americans, including Democrats and black Americans, are in favor of voter ID requirements, what is it that those who are pushing against voter ID requirements are angling for?

Great question.

It isn’t being done in good faith. It is intended to suppress black and Latino and young voters. It may look neutral to you but the people pushing it know that their state and local election officials will always apply rules more strictly to obstruct black voters. They will make it harder for some people to get the required IDs or to update IDs and they will continue to put up other obstacles to suppress black votes, e.g. rigging precinct size, location, capacity, staffing to ensure long lines and waits. These racists cannot be trusted to enforce election laws fairly and equally. They have no intention of doing so. This is not targeted at fraud. It is targeted at depressing turnout among certain types of eligible voters.

So this is about what you FEEL their goals are. There's a whole lot of hypothesizing and impugning motives in these discussions. There are many states that require voters to have ID that are not Republican led states.

DP. I have not seen one reason for voter ID laws backed up with evidence for their necessity on this thread. It’s ironic that you are so dismissive of FEELINGS because that’s the only reason you want voter ID.

Countries all over the world require voter ID. Are they all paranoid? Services and purchases of all kinds require ID. Should the US stop with all the nonsense?

It's pointless, as there is one crazy lady on this thread incessantly rambling on about all of the people who can't vote because they never got an id. These people spent their entire lives unsuccessfully trying to get their birth certificate that was destroyed by the sandanistas. To make matters worse, they have spinobifida and cant leave the house. It's LOCO!

What’s really interesting about all of this manufactured concern is how few people actually vote in the first place. I guess the goal is to whittle down eligibility until it’s back to white, male property owners.

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Anonymous wrote:Since most Americans, including Democrats and black Americans, are in favor of voter ID requirements, what is it that those who are pushing against voter ID requirements are angling for?

Free government assistance obtain the ID — or acceptable forms of ID that don’t disproportionately impact any group of people. It doesn’t make sense to me that a student ID with a picture issued by a state university would not be acceptable - when a gun license is just fine.

So, older person born at home in a tiny town in, let’s say Alabama. No birth certificate, no Baptismal record, might have a family Bible indicating their birthdate. The onus should not be on this citizen to spend the considerable time and money it would take — if it is even possible— to meet the standards for obtaining a Real ID in, say, Hawaii, in order to fulfill a drummed up solution to a problem that doesn’t appreciably exist. It’s worth pointing out, yet again, that many of the forms of ID deemed acceptable require a birth certificate before they will be issued.

For the circumstances you listed, they'd have to be pushing 100, even in a tiny rural town in Alabama.

First, you’re wrong. Second, even if it’s one person, pushing 100, they should get to vote without interference. I gave one hypothetical example. There are others. If you’re even remotely sincere, arrange to have everyone issued a free official copy of their birth certificate— for starters. And have a backup plan in place for any that cannot be obtained. Voting should be free. So if specific documents are going to be required in order to vote, make obtaining them free as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Since most Americans, including Democrats and black Americans, are in favor of voter ID requirements, what is it that those who are pushing against voter ID requirements are angling for?

Great question.

It isn’t being done in good faith. It is intended to suppress black and Latino and young voters. It may look neutral to you but the people pushing it know that their state and local election officials will always apply rules more strictly to obstruct black voters. They will make it harder for some people to get the required IDs or to update IDs and they will continue to put up other obstacles to suppress black votes, e.g. rigging precinct size, location, capacity, staffing to ensure long lines and waits. These racists cannot be trusted to enforce election laws fairly and equally. They have no intention of doing so. This is not targeted at fraud. It is targeted at depressing turnout among certain types of eligible voters.

So this is about what you FEEL their goals are. There's a whole lot of hypothesizing and impugning motives in these discussions. There are many states that require voters to have ID that are not Republican led states.

DP. I have not seen one reason for voter ID laws backed up with evidence for their necessity on this thread. It’s ironic that you are so dismissive of FEELINGS because that’s the only reason you want voter ID.

Countries all over the world require voter ID. Are they all paranoid? Services and purchases of all kinds require ID. Should the US stop with all the nonsense?

Actually, you have not really provided evidence of this despite saying it. Please provide a source. Also, you have to verify your identity in the US to vote. Please provide any evidence why this is not enough and you need some very specific identification at any particular point in the process.

It shouldn’t be so hard to find actual evidence of a problem, should it?

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Anonymous wrote:Since most Americans, including Democrats and black Americans, are in favor of voter ID requirements, what is it that those who are pushing against voter ID requirements are angling for?

Great question.

It isn’t being done in good faith. It is intended to suppress black and Latino and young voters. It may look neutral to you but the people pushing it know that their state and local election officials will always apply rules more strictly to obstruct black voters. They will make it harder for some people to get the required IDs or to update IDs and they will continue to put up other obstacles to suppress black votes, e.g. rigging precinct size, location, capacity, staffing to ensure long lines and waits. These racists cannot be trusted to enforce election laws fairly and equally. They have no intention of doing so. This is not targeted at fraud. It is targeted at depressing turnout among certain types of eligible voters.

So this is about what you FEEL their goals are. There's a whole lot of hypothesizing and impugning motives in these discussions. There are many states that require voters to have ID that are not Republican led states.

DP. I have not seen one reason for voter ID laws backed up with evidence for their necessity on this thread. It’s ironic that you are so dismissive of FEELINGS because that’s the only reason you want voter ID.

Countries all over the world require voter ID. Are they all paranoid? Services and purchases of all kinds require ID. Should the US stop with all the nonsense?