Anonymous wrote:People opposed to this re-zoning bid by River would do well to get a copy of the city comprehensive development plan (find the link in the story in today’s Post), wave it at the DC Council and the zoning commission and ask why they would approve this request by a private school that serves a small sliver of wealthy DC residents rather than using the parcel for higher density housing including an affordable housing set aside.

I'd go for River School. At least they will presumably maintain some green space. So over the hard on of the density folks for Ward 3.

People opposed to this re-zoning bid by River would do well to get a copy of the city comprehensive development plan (find the link in the story in today’s Post), wave it at the DC Council and the zoning commission and ask why they would approve this request by a private school that serves a small sliver of wealthy DC residents rather than using the parcel for higher density housing including an affordable housing set aside.

Anonymous wrote:DC does not have plenty of housing. There is currently a 20,000 unit shortfall and a need for at least 2,000 units, just in Ward 3.

What does that even mean? Meaningless.

No seriously, there is a private community center in Cleveleand Park I believe, as well as the Rosedale Conservatory. Why is AU Park bickering about the River Sschool + traffic instead of galvanizing to buy and conserve that piece of property in its natural "green lung" state? Between AU construction and the Fannie Mae development, a LOT of concrete has been laid in that corridor in a few short years. Why not an awesome community park/playgroung/dog run concervatory? Obviously open to the public.

DC does not have plenty of housing. There is currently a 20,000 unit shortfall and a need for at least 2,000 units, just in Ward 3.

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Anonymous wrote:The want to expand the school to 350 kids (expanding to add through sixth grade), day care center and health clinic open to the public. The issue in the neighborhood is not the mission of the school it is that there are already 12+ schools, the department of homeland security and the new buildings at the old Fannie Mae site that are already causing huge amounts of traffic in an area that already has dangerous traffic. They are under contract to purchase TTR old Buchanan estate which is on the corner of Nebraska, 42nd and Van Ness. With 350 kids, 90 faculty, many more staff, patients to the clinic, families of the infants and staff at the health clinic that will add more than 500 cars to the residential part of tenleytown.

Thanks for the NIMBY fear-mongering.

It would be a great addition to the neighborhood, more families would have more walkable and bikable options for their kids.

there are already 13 schools and day care centers in tenleytown . and sidwell is about to expand and is just a few blocks away
aren't there other neighborhoods with no schools that could get this one?

I agree Tentleytown is getting busy, but Mary Cheh and Greater Greater Washington and Muriel Bowser and a few annoying, but very well organized millenials with no understanding of livability want DENSITY. If not this school, what will they rubber stamp in its place? And none of them are interested in historical preservation of old buildings. Why doesn't the neighborhood pool together to buy it and create a comnunity center and park?

Wow. Someone is bitter. Annoying? Millennials? (learn how to spell it, negative one, if you are going to insult someone) News flash - housing is a MAJOR factor in determining a city's livability index. Why don't you go post on another list serv all your assumptions with your rubber stamp.

DC has plenty of housing. And DC has a current high "livability' index.

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You are right the spots along Nebraska tend to not be all used, but there are not nearly enough to hold all the River Schools parents. When those are used up, which are also surrounding houses and neighbors, where will the rest of the cars go? It is scary how mindless River School and their parents are about the well being of those that live in the Tenley community.

I don't know if you're right that they'd all be used, but if so just how often does any school invite all parents at once to the school? At best it's a couple of times a year - maybe graduation and a holiday event (like a Thanksgiving/Christmas assembly). Outside of that, it's more frequently grade by grade or a couple of grades at once. I think the people of any neighborhood might just have to deal with a 2 hour period once a year where parking is extra tight. And if they really can't, then perhaps the solution is to ask the school to ensure arrangements such as borrowing the NPS/NBC parking lot, like the Japanese embassy does for its occasional events.

Other independent schools in the area are limited on the amount of school wide events they can hold per year. You would be surprised how easy it is to reach that number. Back to school night, musical, play, Holiday/winter concert, parent education event at night which could be PA sponsored, graduation, fall fair, spring fair, etc. What bothers me is that the independent schools I am aware of in the area have agreements and try very hard to be a good neighbor. The River School reached out to a few families and then decided to have a town hall at 4 pm on a weekday after people in the neighborhood raised questions. I'm not impressed with the River School's community outreach and the way they've handled things seems like they were trying to slip something by. I am now wary of the school's administration and I used to have a more favorable opinion.

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Class plays. Musical performances. Parent volunteers. Parent-teacher conferences. Lots of things happen during the schoolday that will bring even more cars into the area/on campus and looking for places to park.

And these happen every day? No. PTCs are occasional, and easily staggered. Class plays are one class - they don't have every child in a play at the same time - it's, what, 30 kids max?

Having some parents visit campus during the day, and parking on Nebraska (where much of the parking is unused) is not 300 parents all at once. And 300 parents all at once happens for two brief periods - in the morning and the afternoon.

You clearly do not live in the neighborhood and see Nebraska during the day. There isn't a space to be had because they are taken by MD and VA cars already.

I drive on Nebraska regularly during the day, and have for years, and rarely are any spots taken except for a few close to Wisconsin Ave.

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Anonymous wrote:The want to expand the school to 350 kids (expanding to add through sixth grade), day care center and health clinic open to the public. The issue in the neighborhood is not the mission of the school it is that there are already 12+ schools, the department of homeland security and the new buildings at the old Fannie Mae site that are already causing huge amounts of traffic in an area that already has dangerous traffic. They are under contract to purchase TTR old Buchanan estate which is on the corner of Nebraska, 42nd and Van Ness. With 350 kids, 90 faculty, many more staff, patients to the clinic, families of the infants and staff at the health clinic that will add more than 500 cars to the residential part of tenleytown.

Thanks for the NIMBY fear-mongering.

It would be a great addition to the neighborhood, more families would have more walkable and bikable options for their kids.

there are already 13 schools and day care centers in tenleytown . and sidwell is about to expand and is just a few blocks away
aren't there other neighborhoods with no schools that could get this one?

I agree Tentleytown is getting busy, but Mary Cheh and Greater Greater Washington and Muriel Bowser and a few annoying, but very well organized millenials with no understanding of livability want DENSITY. If not this school, what will they rubber stamp in its place? And none of them are interested in historical preservation of old buildings. Why doesn't the neighborhood pool together to buy it and create a comnunity center and park?

Wow. Someone is bitter. Annoying? Millennials? (learn how to spell it, negative one, if you are going to insult someone) News flash - housing is a MAJOR factor in determining a city's livability index. Why don't you go post on another list serv all your assumptions with your rubber stamp.

Well, and honestly... I would think that the millennials would rather have the park!

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Anonymous wrote:The want to expand the school to 350 kids (expanding to add through sixth grade), day care center and health clinic open to the public. The issue in the neighborhood is not the mission of the school it is that there are already 12+ schools, the department of homeland security and the new buildings at the old Fannie Mae site that are already causing huge amounts of traffic in an area that already has dangerous traffic. They are under contract to purchase TTR old Buchanan estate which is on the corner of Nebraska, 42nd and Van Ness. With 350 kids, 90 faculty, many more staff, patients to the clinic, families of the infants and staff at the health clinic that will add more than 500 cars to the residential part of tenleytown.

Thanks for the NIMBY fear-mongering.

It would be a great addition to the neighborhood, more families would have more walkable and bikable options for their kids.

there are already 13 schools and day care centers in tenleytown . and sidwell is about to expand and is just a few blocks away
aren't there other neighborhoods with no schools that could get this one?

I agree Tentleytown is getting busy, but Mary Cheh and Greater Greater Washington and Muriel Bowser and a few annoying, but very well organized millenials with no understanding of livability want DENSITY. If not this school, what will they rubber stamp in its place? And none of them are interested in historical preservation of old buildings. Why doesn't the neighborhood pool together to buy it and create a comnunity center and park?

Wow. Someone is bitter. Annoying? Millennials? (learn how to spell it, negative one, if you are going to insult someone) News flash - housing is a MAJOR factor in determining a city's livability index. Why don't you go post on another list serv all your assumptions with your rubber stamp.

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Anonymous wrote:A count of the River family directory shows 149 families (a previous year, but I don't think this year would be much different). Not 300. Many families have two or even three children in the school.

They are hoping to expand to 6th grade and 350 students as part of this proposed plan. Catch up.

I said 149 current FAMILIES not 149 STUDENTS (current students are in the mid-200s). Expanding to 6th (from the current cap of 3rd grade) doesn't add that many students since the River School's elementary program is only roughly 12-14 kids per grade, though I suppose with more space it's possible that they'd have two classes per elementary grade rather than just 1.

Since ending on a snarky, rude note is apparently de rigeur on this forum, I say: Reading comprehension. Word choice is sometimes significant.

So is correct spelling, fancy pants. Guess you missed that lesson at your private school.

Here’s an excerpt from an email that went out to the community list serv earlier:

Until last week, only the closest neighbors to the estate had been asked to meet with River School (once) in the past three months. The broader community has not been engaged. We were just informed that the River School is planning a neighbor meeting/”listening session” on April 22, 2021 at 4pm.

Save The Date - 4/22/21, 4 p.m.
River School Town Hall

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87837273148?pwd=eTJDOGl5TEh1Yzc3TXM3V29oUFZ3Zz09

I live in the hood and will probably listen to at least some.

I think it would be great if the neighborhood bought it and made a pocket park. How much are we talking here?

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Anonymous wrote:A count of the River family directory shows 149 families (a previous year, but I don't think this year would be much different). Not 300. Many families have two or even three children in the school.

They are hoping to expand to 6th grade and 350 students as part of this proposed plan. Catch up.

I said 149 current FAMILIES not 149 STUDENTS (current students are in the mid-200s). Expanding to 6th (from the current cap of 3rd grade) doesn't add that many students since the River School's elementary program is only roughly 12-14 kids per grade, though I suppose with more space it's possible that they'd have two classes per elementary grade rather than just 1.

Since ending on a snarky, rude note is apparently de rigeur on this forum, I say: Reading comprehension. Word choice is sometimes significant.

The point is, your numbers are irrelevant. The number of families at the current location is irrelevant. The number of elementary classes at the current location is also irrelevant.

This is because they want to have 350 students at the new location. It is a core part of their application that they have submitted to the BZA. Reading. It's fundamental.

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Anonymous wrote:A count of the River family directory shows 149 families (a previous year, but I don't think this year would be much different). Not 300. Many families have two or even three children in the school.

They are hoping to expand to 6th grade and 350 students as part of this proposed plan. Catch up.

I said 149 current FAMILIES not 149 STUDENTS (current students are in the mid-200s). Expanding to 6th (from the current cap of 3rd grade) doesn't add that many students since the River School's elementary program is only roughly 12-14 kids per grade, though I suppose with more space it's possible that they'd have two classes per elementary grade rather than just 1.

Since ending on a snarky, rude note is apparently de rigeur on this forum, I say: Reading comprehension. Word choice is sometimes significant.