Anonymous wrote:I will just say I had both blonde and darker hair and the difference in attention/treatment is astonishing.

Agree it is astonishing. I am dark hair and very blue eyes. Since turning 50 I’ve gone blonde to hide gray hair. I can’t believe how much attention I get now, particularly from men

Amazing how everyone on this thread looks like a model/celebrity. Just wow.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm blonde, blue-eyed, about as Nordic as it gets (both parents are Nordic, all four grandparents were also from that specific Nordic country).

I never think about my "palette" unless someone brings it up, which is never. I have had to deal with the occasional person who assumes I am dumb as a rock because of how I look, though, or that I'm a princess type. They find out otherwise eventually. We Nordics let our actions speak for us.

Is there a reason you're not specifying the country? Don't worry, there are lots of Finns or whatever in the DMV, you are not outing yourself.

Most Finns aren’t blonde blue eyed. Or even Norwegians. It’s mostly swedes and Danes, but you don’t seem like a person who has travelled much so I Understand the confusion.

- Swede

Whatever. There are plenty of blonde Finns and the point remains that PP is being weirdly vague for absolutely no reason.

Of course there are beautiful blondes. But in general I find them very plain. I think a warm skin tone and dark hair are far more appealing.

But it really depends who you ask. On DCUM, Gwyneth Paltrow’s look is considered ideal. I’ve never spoken to anyone in real life who thinks she’s even above average looking.

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Anonymous wrote:I've always found blondes to be the least attractive people, by far.


Taylor Swift, Reese Witherspoon, January Jones, Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, Kristen Dunst, Charlize Theron, Amanda Seyfried, Meg Ryan, Sienna Miller, Amber Heard, Michelle Pfeiffer,, Christie Brinkley

vs

Catherine Zeta Jones, Angelina Jolie, Monica Bellucci, Cindy Crawford, Natalie Portman, Megan Fox, Keira Knightley, Christy Turlington, Liz Hurley, Kate Beckinsale, Rachel Weisz


And I deliberately left out some of the most stunning women in the world like Salma Hayek, Penelope Cruz, Zoe Kravitz, Jennifer Lopez, Jessica Alba, Freida Pinto, Adriana Lima, Halle Berry, Lupita, Zoe Saldana, Priyanka Chopra, Liya Kebede, Ciara, and on and on and on.


I mean it's almost unfair how much less attractive blondes are as a whole.

Charlize Theron, Michelle Pfeiffer, and Christie Brinkley are absolutely stunning. You’re on crack.

I never said they weren’t stunning. They are.
But for every beautiful blonde, there are a hundred beautiful women who aren’t.

OP, many blonde, blue-eyed, white women are not conventionally attractive. They can have all the human physiological "flaws" that are generally unliked in spite of the genes they have for hair, skin, and eye color.

I'm a blonde, blue eyed, British, Swedish, Irish looking. This was fetishized in the 60s and 70s when I grew up, but not after that. My entire family is darker, Mediterranean looking. I wanted to be that, actually.

It's not a prize to be this coloring. Age spots, wrinkling, macular degeneration, more osteoporosis , skin cancer from a million sunburns. We do not age that well.

Today's idea of beauty is more global.

I really hate this thing women do where in order to challenge beauty conventions, they have to denigrate women who naturally conform to them.

I mean, yes, there have been preferences for blonde hair and blue eyes in the past and there are awful examples of fascists using this "ideal" to justify violence against people who did not conform to it. It's awful. But that doesn't mean women with blonde hair and blue eyes are ugly or less attractive. It means that it's racist and terribly to idolize blonde hair and blue eyes over other features. Many (but not all) cultures on the planet have troubling colorism standards that often preference lighter skin over darker skin. Also terrible! Does not mean having lighter skin is bad, just that it's not better than darker skin.

And you see the same stuff when people talk about expectation that women be thin -- people will start claiming thin women are ugly, that "real women have curves" and other efforts to simply flip the script and elevate one body type over another. It is so tiresome.

I honestly believe you can find great beauty in people of any skin tone or hair color or eye color, any body type. I also think that being beautiful is not the most important quality a person can have, and that it should matter a lot less than we make it out to. I especially think we should stop conceptualizing female beauty based on the preferences of men, as though women only exist to be visually pleasing to men, or as though we only exist to be visually pleasing at all.

Just stop. We can reject the toxic racism, colorism, and fat phobia in our culture without simply reversing it. No one was ever being oppressed by an army of powerful, thin, blonde, blue-eyed women. They were oppressed by angry men who decided to make that the standard as an excuse to punish people they didn't like. Reject Hitler, not Christy Brinkley. She didn't actually do anything to you.

Well I'm blond-ish et have blue eyes but I have never felt like my type was in. The "desirable" type has been always been an improbable mix of features that very few women of any race can identify with.

Anonymous wrote:I've always found blondes to be the least attractive people, by far.


Taylor Swift, Reese Witherspoon, January Jones, Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, Kristen Dunst, Charlize Theron, Amanda Seyfried, Meg Ryan, Sienna Miller, Amber Heard, Michelle Pfeiffer,, Christie Brinkley

vs

Catherine Zeta Jones, Angelina Jolie, Monica Bellucci, Cindy Crawford, Natalie Portman, Megan Fox, Keira Knightley, Christy Turlington, Liz Hurley, Kate Beckinsale, Rachel Weisz


And I deliberately left out some of the most stunning women in the world like Salma Hayek, Penelope Cruz, Zoe Kravitz, Jennifer Lopez, Jessica Alba, Freida Pinto, Adriana Lima, Halle Berry, Lupita, Zoe Saldana, Priyanka Chopra, Liya Kebede, Ciara, and on and on and on.


I mean it's almost unfair how much less attractive blondes are as a whole.

Charlize Theron, Michelle Pfeiffer, and Christie Brinkley are absolutely stunning. You’re on crack.

Anonymous wrote:I've always found blondes to be the least attractive people, by far.


Taylor Swift, Reese Witherspoon, January Jones, Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, Kristen Dunst, Charlize Theron, Amanda Seyfried, Meg Ryan, Sienna Miller, Amber Heard, Michelle Pfeiffer,, Christie Brinkley

vs

Catherine Zeta Jones, Angelina Jolie, Monica Bellucci, Cindy Crawford, Natalie Portman, Megan Fox, Keira Knightley, Christy Turlington, Liz Hurley, Kate Beckinsale, Rachel Weisz


And I deliberately left out some of the most stunning women in the world like Salma Hayek, Penelope Cruz, Zoe Kravitz, Jennifer Lopez, Jessica Alba, Freida Pinto, Adriana Lima, Halle Berry, Lupita, Zoe Saldana, Priyanka Chopra, Liya Kebede, Ciara, and on and on and on.


I mean it's almost unfair how much less attractive blondes are as a whole.

I've always found blondes to be the least attractive people, by far.


Taylor Swift, Reese Witherspoon, January Jones, Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, Kristen Dunst, Charlize Theron, Amanda Seyfried, Meg Ryan, Sienna Miller, Amber Heard, Michelle Pfeiffer,, Christie Brinkley

vs

Catherine Zeta Jones, Angelina Jolie, Monica Bellucci, Cindy Crawford, Natalie Portman, Megan Fox, Keira Knightley, Christy Turlington, Liz Hurley, Kate Beckinsale, Rachel Weisz


And I deliberately left out some of the most stunning women in the world like Salma Hayek, Penelope Cruz, Zoe Kravitz, Jennifer Lopez, Jessica Alba, Freida Pinto, Adriana Lima, Halle Berry, Lupita, Zoe Saldana, Priyanka Chopra, Liya Kebede, Ciara, and on and on and on.


I mean it's almost unfair how much less attractive blondes are as a whole.

Being naturally blonde, blue-eyed, tall, thin, and “model” gorgeous in my 20’s drove others (white men) to categorize me as dumb and a sexualized object, but drove me to prove my interior worth snd smarts. I achieved extreme professional success through hard work and, to be honest, privilege that comes with feminine beauty, including the gift of being underestimated.

Anonymous wrote:Another 50 year old of Mediterranean descent. Those women are washing out and we’re coming in to our own. I am always astonished at how washed out and dried out most natural blondes get in their 40s. Darker hair and oilier skin mean that we look much better in our 40s and 50s.

Agree! I’m also a 50 year old of Mediterranean descent and have noticed the same. I get compliments all the time (and it’s usually from 40-50ish blonde blued-eyed women). They ask for skin care advice but it’s mostly just genes doing the work.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.marieclaire.com/fashion/g2173/supermodels-of-the-90s/

The top models in the 90s were diverse, and many/most were naturally brunette...and the blondes often opted for dark hair (Linda Evangelista).

Childhood photos of Linda Evangelista show her as a brunette.