Anonymous wrote:Just noticed DD’s current fave school, St. Mary’s College of Maryland, jumped from #92 in 2020 to #80 this year. Guess US News thinks they’re doing something right.

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Anonymous wrote:Debating for hours or getting a dopamine hit to see your run of the mill state school or regional private university rising up to 20-something or 50-something or whatever is so freaking sad. Anyone in real life who cites US News rankings tells me they're a pathetic insecure loser.

Elite is going to MIT, Ivy League or Stanford. Outside of that nobody cares, nobody is impressed. The colleges outside the top 10 are full of unimpressive mediocrities who will go onto the live boring unimpressive middle class nobody 9 to 5 lives. So again, what are you even bragging for?

Does Cornell count?

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Anonymous wrote:With all the focus on UVA on DCUM, it ends up four insignificant places in front of the University Florida in this rating. Since USNWR added the Pell grant metrics, it really has brought a bunch of schools, particularly the UCs, up the rankings.

You're looking at the wrong ranking. All college counselors know that public and private universities cannot be compared - they have different missions to their states, hence, agricultural offerings at VA Tech, etc. andin-state v. OOS issues. The correct USN&WR rating for UVA is the "Top Public Schools" where UVA comes in no. 4 after UCLA, Berkeley and Michigan. For 27 years UVA was no. 2 and sometimes no. 1 public, always above Michigan. When USN&WR started incorporating Pell Grant recipients as a criterion to be looked at, UVA dropped to No. 4 because Michigan has more Pell Grant recipients. But if you know anything about Pell Grants, you know that UVA and the other schools have no ability to affect their Pell Grant numbers since that is a function of the state's populace. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public. If a school is in a wealthier state per capita, their Pell Grant recipient numbers will necessarily be lower.

They were looking at the right ranking. Florida is 30 and UVA 26th. If you want to look at the public schools only, then yes, UVA is only 2 spots ahead of Florida. Schools can do things that affect Pell grant applications. They can recruit more in less affluent school districts. They can accept more people from less affluent areas (which might lower overall admitted stats). UVA already gives significant admission advantages to certain minorities (blacks and Hispanics). They can avoid doing ED (which has wealthier applicants).

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Anonymous wrote:With all the focus on UVA on DCUM, it ends up four insignificant places in front of the University Florida in this rating. Since USNWR added the Pell grant metrics, it really has brought a bunch of schools, particularly the UCs, up the rankings.

You're looking at the wrong ranking. All college counselors know that public and private universities cannot be compared - they have different missions to their states, hence, agricultural offerings at VA Tech, etc. andin-state v. OOS issues. The correct USN&WR rating for UVA is the "Top Public Schools" where UVA comes in no. 4 after UCLA, Berkeley and Michigan. For 27 years UVA was no. 2 and sometimes no. 1 public, always above Michigan. When USN&WR started incorporating Pell Grant recipients as a criterion to be looked at, UVA dropped to No. 4 because Michigan has more Pell Grant recipients. But if you know anything about Pell Grants, you know that UVA and the other schools have no ability to affect their Pell Grant numbers since that is a function of the state's populace. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public. If a school is in a wealthier state per capita, their Pell Grant recipient numbers will necessarily be lower.

They were looking at the right ranking. Florida is 30 and UVA 26th. If you want to look at the public schools only, then yes, UVA is only 2 spots ahead of Florida. Schools can do things that affect Pell grant applications. They can recruit more in less affluent school districts. They can accept more people from less affluent areas (which might lower overall admitted stats). UVA already gives significant admission advantages to certain minorities (blacks and Hispanics). They can avoid doing ED (which has wealthier applicants).

Translation: Recruit dumb kids from crappy schools with fake GPAs and make SAT/ACT optional.

Outcome: The college is WORSE not better, all for a totally pointless ranking racket.

Anonymous wrote:Well I am wealthier then even the folks that claim they are wealthier then the folks that say they are wealthier then DCUM folks.

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Anonymous wrote:Debating for hours or getting a dopamine hit to see your run of the mill state school or regional private university rising up to 20-something or 50-something or whatever is so freaking sad. Anyone in real life who cites US News rankings tells me they're a pathetic insecure loser.

Elite is going to MIT, Ivy League or Stanford. Outside of that nobody cares, nobody is impressed. The colleges outside the top 10 are full of unimpressive mediocrities who will go onto the live boring unimpressive middle class nobody 9 to 5 lives. So again, what are you even bragging for?

Based on your atrocious writing skills it would appear that you never graduated from college, let alone a T20.

Message board grammar police. Another telltale sign of a pathetic (and broke) insecure loser.

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Anonymous wrote:With all the focus on UVA on DCUM, it ends up four insignificant places in front of the University Florida in this rating. Since USNWR added the Pell grant metrics, it really has brought a bunch of schools, particularly the UCs, up the rankings.

You're looking at the wrong ranking. All college counselors know that public and private universities cannot be compared - they have different missions to their states, hence, agricultural offerings at VA Tech, etc. andin-state v. OOS issues. The correct USN&WR rating for UVA is the "Top Public Schools" where UVA comes in no. 4 after UCLA, Berkeley and Michigan. For 27 years UVA was no. 2 and sometimes no. 1 public, always above Michigan. When USN&WR started incorporating Pell Grant recipients as a criterion to be looked at, UVA dropped to No. 4 because Michigan has more Pell Grant recipients. But if you know anything about Pell Grants, you know that UVA and the other schools have no ability to affect their Pell Grant numbers since that is a function of the state's populace. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public. If a school is in a wealthier state per capita, their Pell Grant recipient numbers will necessarily be lower.

This is astute. Adding pell grant recipients made this list pure bullshit.

Anonymous wrote:Well I am wealthier then even the folks that claim they are wealthier then the folks that say they are wealthier then DCUM folks.

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Anonymous wrote:Debating for hours or getting a dopamine hit to see your run of the mill state school or regional private university rising up to 20-something or 50-something or whatever is so freaking sad. Anyone in real life who cites US News rankings tells me they're a pathetic insecure loser.

Elite is going to MIT, Ivy League or Stanford. Outside of that nobody cares, nobody is impressed. The colleges outside the top 10 are full of unimpressive mediocrities who will go onto the live boring unimpressive middle class nobody 9 to 5 lives. So again, what are you even bragging for?

Based on your atrocious writing skills it would appear that you never graduated from college, let alone a T20.

Message board grammar police. Another telltale sign of a pathetic (and broke) insecure loser.

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Anonymous wrote:Debating for hours or getting a dopamine hit to see your run of the mill state school or regional private university rising up to 20-something or 50-something or whatever is so freaking sad. Anyone in real life who cites US News rankings tells me they're a pathetic insecure loser.

Elite is going to MIT, Ivy League or Stanford. Outside of that nobody cares, nobody is impressed. The colleges outside the top 10 are full of unimpressive mediocrities who will go onto the live boring unimpressive middle class nobody 9 to 5 lives. So again, what are you even bragging for?

Most MIT l, Ivy, Stanford grads go onto live unimpressive lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Debating for hours or getting a dopamine hit to see your run of the mill state school or regional private university rising up to 20-something or 50-something or whatever is so freaking sad. Anyone in real life who cites US News rankings tells me they're a pathetic insecure loser.

Elite is going to MIT, Ivy League or Stanford. Outside of that nobody cares, nobody is impressed. The colleges outside the top 10 are full of unimpressive mediocrities who will go onto the live boring unimpressive middle class nobody 9 to 5 lives. So again, what are you even bragging for?

Most MIT l, Ivy, Stanford grads go onto live unimpressive lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Debating for hours or getting a dopamine hit to see your run of the mill state school or regional private university rising up to 20-something or 50-something or whatever is so freaking sad. Anyone in real life who cites US News rankings tells me they're a pathetic insecure loser.

Elite is going to MIT, Ivy League or Stanford. Outside of that nobody cares, nobody is impressed. The colleges outside the top 10 are full of unimpressive mediocrities who will go onto the live boring unimpressive middle class nobody 9 to 5 lives. So again, what are you even bragging for?

Based on your atrocious writing skills it would appear that you never graduated from college, let alone a T20.

Anonymous wrote:Debating for hours or getting a dopamine hit to see your run of the mill state school or regional private university rising up to 20-something or 50-something or whatever is so freaking sad. Anyone in real life who cites US News rankings tells me they're a pathetic insecure loser.

Elite is going to MIT, Ivy League or Stanford. Outside of that nobody cares, nobody is impressed. The colleges outside the top 10 are full of unimpressive mediocrities who will go onto the live boring unimpressive middle class nobody 9 to 5 lives. So again, what are you even bragging for?