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Anonymous wrote:Very confused as to why anyone is considering any of these openings when the Trump Admin is predicting 3k deaths a day which will bring us back to where we were in mid-March very quickly.

They predicted 2.2 million deaths in the beginning. People aren’t buying their BS models anymore.

+1. We’re two weeks behind Italy... we’re 8 days behind Italy...

The 2.2 million was a projection based on not taking any mitigation measures-- no shut down, no social distancing, no telework or tele school, no additional hygiene practices.

THIS. It baffles me how people just don’t seem to get this. We shut things down in early March so that we would not get the 2.2 million projected deaths and now that we didn’t, we’re hearing “oh COVID 19 is not that bad, why did we shut down”? This lack of critical thinking baffles me. Is this a reflection of the USVeducation system?

The "Oh Covid 19 is not that bad" is coming from the fact that it kills less than 1% of people who are infected by it. Yes, those of us who are pushing for things to reopen, fully realize that the numbers would be much higher if it weren't for the shutdown, but the % of fatalities would still be very small. You're thinking in terms of numbers, we are thinking in terms of percentages. To us, a virus that kills such a small percentage of people is not worth turning our society into something that falls in the range of a Great Depression or Zombie Apocalypse.

How many people would have been killed this year if we didn’t lock down?

Quite a large amount. But still less than 1% of those infected.

So 3 million max?

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Anonymous wrote:Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.

I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.

You have a dark view of humanity. Bad lighting in the basement?

Not humanity. People who live in the United States mostly.

Ralph muddled through.

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Anonymous wrote:Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.

I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.

Were you watching the news? The goal was to flatten the curve, it was not to stop the virus. Once the world missed the opportunity to contain the virus, thanks to China, the goal was mitigation and NOT elimination. This is a novel virus. The entire population is susceptible to it. In a country of 330 million, the number of fatalities will be high, but the percentage of people dying is still between .01 and 1%, which is quite low. The fact that we are all susceptible to it at the same time is what makes the numbers seem so overwhelming. Also, we will likely see a higher death rate than a lot of other countries. 40% of adults in the US are obese and obesity is a comorbidity for this virus. All of this is very sad, but these are facts, facts that can’t be changed.

Anonymous wrote:You guys go first.

Is that what you said to your delivery people?

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Anonymous wrote:Very confused as to why anyone is considering any of these openings when the Trump Admin is predicting 3k deaths a day which will bring us back to where we were in mid-March very quickly.

They predicted 2.2 million deaths in the beginning. People aren’t buying their BS models anymore.

+1. We’re two weeks behind Italy... we’re 8 days behind Italy...

The 2.2 million was a projection based on not taking any mitigation measures-- no shut down, no social distancing, no telework or tele school, no additional hygiene practices.

THIS. It baffles me how people just don’t seem to get this. We shut things down in early March so that we would not get the 2.2 million projected deaths and now that we didn’t, we’re hearing “oh COVID 19 is not that bad, why did we shut down”? This lack of critical thinking baffles me. Is this a reflection of the USVeducation system?

The "Oh Covid 19 is not that bad" is coming from the fact that it kills less than 1% of people who are infected by it. Yes, those of us who are pushing for things to reopen, fully realize that the numbers would be much higher if it weren't for the shutdown, but the % of fatalities would still be very small. You're thinking in terms of numbers, we are thinking in terms of percentages. To us, a virus that kills such a small percentage of people is not worth turning our society into something that falls in the range of a Great Depression or Zombie Apocalypse.

How many people would have been killed this year if we didn’t lock down?

Quite a large amount. But still less than 1% of those infected.

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Anonymous wrote:Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.

I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.

You have a dark view of humanity. Bad lighting in the basement?

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Anonymous wrote:Very confused as to why anyone is considering any of these openings when the Trump Admin is predicting 3k deaths a day which will bring us back to where we were in mid-March very quickly.

They predicted 2.2 million deaths in the beginning. People aren’t buying their BS models anymore.

+1. We’re two weeks behind Italy... we’re 8 days behind Italy...

The 2.2 million was a projection based on not taking any mitigation measures-- no shut down, no social distancing, no telework or tele school, no additional hygiene practices.

THIS. It baffles me how people just don’t seem to get this. We shut things down in early March so that we would not get the 2.2 million projected deaths and now that we didn’t, we’re hearing “oh COVID 19 is not that bad, why did we shut down”? This lack of critical thinking baffles me. Is this a reflection of the USVeducation system?

The "Oh Covid 19 is not that bad" is coming from the fact that it kills less than 1% of people who are infected by it. Yes, those of us who are pushing for things to reopen, fully realize that the numbers would be much higher if it weren't for the shutdown, but the % of fatalities would still be very small. You're thinking in terms of numbers, we are thinking in terms of percentages. To us, a virus that kills such a small percentage of people is not worth turning our society into something that falls in the range of a Great Depression or Zombie Apocalypse.

How many people would have been killed this year if we didn’t lock down?

The virus has been in the states since December, people weren’t dropping like flies then up until March.

Where is the proof that social distancing DID work?

The curve flattening?

How many people do you think will die from covid if we open up now and no longer social distance at all?

The same amount who are dying now. It’s impacting older folks mainly. If you haven’t noticed, many people have never followed the social distancing rules. Big box stores like Wal-Mart and Target are still packed and open. Parks in places like NYC are still packed on weekends. Parks and trails have been abnormally packed as well. Several posts on here complaining about runners while they take their family out for a walk.

People have been finding alternatives to social distancing for a while now. So what’s the difference if a few more shops and businesses open up? Heck, you might see MORE social distancing now with more things opening up because we’re now giving people more options than Overcrowding a Walmart.

Anonymous wrote:I cannot wait to get my eyebrows done. And go back to the mall!!

That’s the Virginia spirit.

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Gladly.

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Anonymous wrote:Great news. Those of you that are scared, please stay home, the lack of traffic has been very nice.

As long as you promise that you and everyone you live with won’t seek out medical help if you get sick. Thanks!

No. Hospitals aren’t overwhelmed. They were never overwhelmed outside of NYC, and even there they weren’t turning people away from ventilators. Anyone can get medical treatment ... even those who go out when the governor opens stuff up.

As a nurse with INOVA who had been furloughed, this is true. Not only are hospitals not overwhelmed, they are DEAD. ER is dead, whole units are shut down.

I'm going to return to a DISASTER of people who have been forced to put off important medical care. What is going to be dangerous is the hours everyone is going to have to put in when Northam gets his head out of his ass.

What phase is this slated for?

The ban on elective procedures was lifted last Friday. The "nurse" should know that.

The ban on elective procedures gets lifted this Friday.

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Anonymous wrote:Great news. Those of you that are scared, please stay home, the lack of traffic has been very nice.

As long as you promise that you and everyone you live with won’t seek out medical help if you get sick. Thanks!

No. Hospitals aren’t overwhelmed. They were never overwhelmed outside of NYC, and even there they weren’t turning people away from ventilators. Anyone can get medical treatment ... even those who go out when the governor opens stuff up.

Huh? They were only not overwhelmed because hospitals scrambled to make new ICU beds and canceled/delayed large numbers of medical procedures. AND we had lockdowns.

If you “aren’t scared” then promise you and everyone you live with won’t seek out medical care.

There’s plenty of medical care available for everyone, even as we open up. So sorry to burst your paranoid bubble. Must be hard for you. Hugs!

Do you know anyone in healthcare? Hospitals aren’t full (as planned/hoped) but they certainly will be if we go back to regular procedures AND covid.

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Anonymous wrote:Very confused as to why anyone is considering any of these openings when the Trump Admin is predicting 3k deaths a day which will bring us back to where we were in mid-March very quickly.

They predicted 2.2 million deaths in the beginning. People aren’t buying their BS models anymore.

+1. We’re two weeks behind Italy... we’re 8 days behind Italy...

The 2.2 million was a projection based on not taking any mitigation measures-- no shut down, no social distancing, no telework or tele school, no additional hygiene practices.

THIS. It baffles me how people just don’t seem to get this. We shut things down in early March so that we would not get the 2.2 million projected deaths and now that we didn’t, we’re hearing “oh COVID 19 is not that bad, why did we shut down”? This lack of critical thinking baffles me. Is this a reflection of the USVeducation system?

The "Oh Covid 19 is not that bad" is coming from the fact that it kills less than 1% of people who are infected by it. Yes, those of us who are pushing for things to reopen, fully realize that the numbers would be much higher if it weren't for the shutdown, but the % of fatalities would still be very small. You're thinking in terms of numbers, we are thinking in terms of percentages. To us, a virus that kills such a small percentage of people is not worth turning our society into something that falls in the range of a Great Depression or Zombie Apocalypse.

How many people would have been killed this year if we didn’t lock down?

The virus has been in the states since December, people weren’t dropping like flies then up until March.

Where is the proof that social distancing DID work?

The curve flattening?

How many people do you think will die from covid if we open up now and no longer social distance at all?

Anonymous wrote:Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.

I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.

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Anonymous wrote:Great news. Those of you that are scared, please stay home, the lack of traffic has been very nice.

As long as you promise that you and everyone you live with won’t seek out medical help if you get sick. Thanks!

No. Hospitals aren’t overwhelmed. They were never overwhelmed outside of NYC, and even there they weren’t turning people away from ventilators. Anyone can get medical treatment ... even those who go out when the governor opens stuff up.

Huh? They were only not overwhelmed because hospitals scrambled to make new ICU beds and canceled/delayed large numbers of medical procedures. AND we had lockdowns.

If you “aren’t scared” then promise you and everyone you live with won’t seek out medical care.

There’s plenty of medical care available for everyone, even as we open up. So sorry to burst your paranoid bubble. Must be hard for you. Hugs!