Anonymous
Post 02/17/2020 16:48     Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The tray table is still usable with the seat reclined.


Depends how far. Not if reclined all the way.



Are you kidding me? Of course you can still use your tray table if the forward seat is reclined. What an obnoxious exaggeration.


DP. Not sure which planes you've been flying on, but I've travelled a fair bit all around the world on several different airlines and in my experience it's usually pretty difficult for the person to use their tray when the seat in front is reclined. And it seems to be getting worse.

I think this is great - we should all get a knee defender!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeWxzd0d-3c
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2020 16:29     Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The tray table is still usable with the seat reclined.


Depends how far. Not if reclined all the way.



Are you kidding me? Of course you can still use your tray table if the forward seat is reclined. What an obnoxious exaggeration.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2020 15:58     Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Both parties were inconsiderate here. There is no right answer.


No. The right answer is not to kick the person in front of you. When in doubt violence is always the wrong answer.




Not sure I'd characterize what I saw in the video as "violence" but agree with the bolded. The right answer is also not to recline when it obviously makes the person behind you very uncomfortable. They should have discussed it civilly and come to an agreement, rather than fighting like children. I have back problems too, but I bring a lumbar pillow and manage to do just fine without reclining.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2020 15:49     Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:Both parties were inconsiderate here. There is no right answer.


No. The right answer is not to kick the person in front of you. When in doubt violence is always the wrong answer.


Anonymous
Post 02/17/2020 15:44     Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:The tray table is still usable with the seat reclined.


Depends how far. Not if reclined all the way.

Anonymous
Post 02/17/2020 15:43     Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
I have had to eat while the person in front of me reclines. Not ideal but doable. I don't feel entitled to the space. I just don't feel like it is my right to demand they give up an amenity they purchased. I just wish airlines would do away with reclining seat but until then I suck it up as an inconvenience of flying or just recline my own seat to make up for the lost space
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2020 15:28     Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
The tray table is still usable with the seat reclined.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2020 15:05     Subject: Re:Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a petite female and have always reclined my seat. People always recline in front of me as well. I never knew this was considered rude until I read about it on here a year ago.

I have also had a lap child (3 kids) and can't ever remember it being an issue. We choose shorter flights.

I think this is a problem for tall and fat people. If you are really tall, you should upgrade to extra leg room or pay for business class. If you are fat, you should buy 2 seats instead of taking up part of my seat. This has happened to me before. This lady's leg was taking up half my leg space and her arm was totally in my seat. I wanted to switch seats but I sucked it up for an hour because it was a short flight.

When I had a squirmy toddler, I bought her a seat even though she wasn't 2 yet. It was not a problem when she was a handheld infant.


You are assuming everybody has the same economic means.


This isn't about economic means. You are not entitled to something someone else paid for, such as the seating space of the person next to your, or the reclining space of the person in front of you.


The reclining space of the person in front is also the tray table space of the person in the rear. It's shared space paid for by both parties.


Fair enough. Person behind gets to use the space during meal service. Person ahead gets to use the space outside of meal service.


Nope--equal time. Tray tables aren't just used for eating, they're also used for other purposes, like working. But if one party or the other has issues that make the situation particularly uncomfortable, both should be considerate and make an effort to adjust accordingly.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2020 14:41     Subject: Re:Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a petite female and have always reclined my seat. People always recline in front of me as well. I never knew this was considered rude until I read about it on here a year ago.

I have also had a lap child (3 kids) and can't ever remember it being an issue. We choose shorter flights.

I think this is a problem for tall and fat people. If you are really tall, you should upgrade to extra leg room or pay for business class. If you are fat, you should buy 2 seats instead of taking up part of my seat. This has happened to me before. This lady's leg was taking up half my leg space and her arm was totally in my seat. I wanted to switch seats but I sucked it up for an hour because it was a short flight.

When I had a squirmy toddler, I bought her a seat even though she wasn't 2 yet. It was not a problem when she was a handheld infant.


You are assuming everybody has the same economic means.


This isn't about economic means. You are not entitled to something someone else paid for, such as the seating space of the person next to your, or the reclining space of the person in front of you.


The reclining space of the person in front is also the tray table space of the person in the rear. It's shared space paid for by both parties.


Fair enough. Person behind gets to use the space during meal service. Person ahead gets to use the space outside of meal service.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2020 14:23     Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Airline sells seats that recline. You pay for a seat that reclines. You are entitled to recline.

That said, I do not recline for the reasons cited here.

The airlines are to blame.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2020 14:09     Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:“It was scary and very painful” she said, claiming she lost time at work, had to receive X-rays and suffered headaches because of the incident.


I was mostly with her until I saw this. Give me a break.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2020 14:06     Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Both parties were inconsiderate here. There is no right answer.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2020 14:02     Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?

The nan was wrong. What an a$$hole.

Anonymous
Post 02/17/2020 13:57     Subject: Re:Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a petite female and have always reclined my seat. People always recline in front of me as well. I never knew this was considered rude until I read about it on here a year ago.

I have also had a lap child (3 kids) and can't ever remember it being an issue. We choose shorter flights.

I think this is a problem for tall and fat people. If you are really tall, you should upgrade to extra leg room or pay for business class. If you are fat, you should buy 2 seats instead of taking up part of my seat. This has happened to me before. This lady's leg was taking up half my leg space and her arm was totally in my seat. I wanted to switch seats but I sucked it up for an hour because it was a short flight.

When I had a squirmy toddler, I bought her a seat even though she wasn't 2 yet. It was not a problem when she was a handheld infant.


You are assuming everybody has the same economic means.


This isn't about economic means. You are not entitled to something someone else paid for, such as the seating space of the person next to your, or the reclining space of the person in front of you.


The reclining space of the person in front is also the tray table space of the person in the rear. It's shared space paid for by both parties.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2020 13:51     Subject: Re:Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a petite female and have always reclined my seat. People always recline in front of me as well. I never knew this was considered rude until I read about it on here a year ago.

I have also had a lap child (3 kids) and can't ever remember it being an issue. We choose shorter flights.

I think this is a problem for tall and fat people. If you are really tall, you should upgrade to extra leg room or pay for business class. If you are fat, you should buy 2 seats instead of taking up part of my seat. This has happened to me before. This lady's leg was taking up half my leg space and her arm was totally in my seat. I wanted to switch seats but I sucked it up for an hour because it was a short flight.

When I had a squirmy toddler, I bought her a seat even though she wasn't 2 yet. It was not a problem when she was a handheld infant.


You are assuming everybody has the same economic means.


This isn't about economic means. You are not entitled to something someone else paid for, such as the seating space of the person next to your, or the reclining space of the person in front of you.