Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what about bad coaches? Those with a record of losing everything, have not taken teams to win any important game or tournament. Those who took over promising teams and not even made to finals. Those who do everything to win like playing favorites and yet LOSE? Should they continue coaching or should they reassess their ability and approach of coaching?
I want to know this too.
Anonymously ruin careers on the internet? That’s pretty disgusting.
HAHAHAHA! Read ANY one of any other thread in this soccer forum and for some of the *ahem* soccer coach REPEAT offenders - this info is already out there!!! I don't think we are ruining their careers - they are doing quite well themselves...![]()
Parents should be able to speak up WHY NOT? PAY-To-PLAYYYY. Some coaches should feel guilty of stealing when they don’t deliver (quality, time management, respect, fairness, etc etc etc).
Yeah, I’d like to see a forum with sort of a black list that include names of the mediocre coaches. This way some of them start changing.
+1. Why don’t you start the list?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what about bad coaches? Those with a record of losing everything, have not taken teams to win any important game or tournament. Those who took over promising teams and not even made to finals. Those who do everything to win like playing favorites and yet LOSE? Should they continue coaching or should they reassess their ability and approach of coaching?
I want to know this too.
Anonymously ruin careers on the internet? That’s pretty disgusting.
HAHAHAHA! Read ANY one of any other thread in this soccer forum and for some of the *ahem* soccer coach REPEAT offenders - this info is already out there!!! I don't think we are ruining their careers - they are doing quite well themselves...![]()
Parents should be able to speak up WHY NOT? PAY-To-PLAYYYY. Some coaches should feel guilty of stealing when they don’t deliver (quality, time management, respect, fairness, etc etc etc).
Yeah, I’d like to see a forum with sort of a black list that include names of the mediocre coaches. This way some of them start changing.
NOVASoccerCoach wrote:The best coach for your kid may be different from another. Your kid's personality and the way your kid is receptive to feedback has to fit with his/her coach.
Anonymous wrote:5 best Nova coaches of all time
Bobby
Bobby
Bobby
Bobby
And Bobby he spits hot fire
Anonymous wrote:Keith T is no longer with Mclean?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what about bad coaches? Those with a record of losing everything, have not taken teams to win any important game or tournament. Those who took over promising teams and not even made to finals. Those who do everything to win like playing favorites and yet LOSE? Should they continue coaching or should they reassess their ability and approach of coaching?
I want to know this too.
Anonymously ruin careers on the internet? That’s pretty disgusting.
HAHAHAHA! Read ANY one of any other thread in this soccer forum and for some of the *ahem* soccer coach REPEAT offenders - this info is already out there!!! I don't think we are ruining their careers - they are doing quite well themselves...![]()
Parents should be able to speak up WHY NOT? PAY-To-PLAYYYY. Some coaches should feel guilty of stealing when they don’t deliver (quality, time management, respect, fairness, etc etc etc).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what about bad coaches? Those with a record of losing everything, have not taken teams to win any important game or tournament. Those who took over promising teams and not even made to finals. Those who do everything to win like playing favorites and yet LOSE? Should they continue coaching or should they reassess their ability and approach of coaching?
I want to know this too.
Anonymously ruin careers on the internet? That’s pretty disgusting.
HAHAHAHA! Read ANY one of any other thread in this soccer forum and for some of the *ahem* soccer coach REPEAT offenders - this info is already out there!!! I don't think we are ruining their careers - they are doing quite well themselves...![]()
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what about bad coaches? Those with a record of losing everything, have not taken teams to win any important game or tournament. Those who took over promising teams and not even made to finals. Those who do everything to win like playing favorites and yet LOSE? Should they continue coaching or should they reassess their ability and approach of coaching?
I want to know this too.
Anonymously ruin careers on the internet? That’s pretty disgusting.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what about bad coaches? Those with a record of losing everything, have not taken teams to win any important game or tournament. Those who took over promising teams and not even made to finals. Those who do everything to win like playing favorites and yet LOSE? Should they continue coaching or should they reassess their ability and approach of coaching?
I want to know this too.
Anonymous wrote:what about bad coaches? Those with a record of losing everything, have not taken teams to win any important game or tournament. Those who took over promising teams and not even made to finals. Those who do everything to win like playing favorites and yet LOSE? Should they continue coaching or should they reassess their ability and approach of coaching?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is there a common criteria on a coach’s resume that typically indicates that he/she would be a good coach such as:
- former college/pro player;
- years of coaching experience;
- level of coaching license:
- originally from Europe/South America, etc.;
- level of coaching experience (HS, MS, youth)
Long time coach here. Here is my perspective.
First we have to define what a good coach is. In my opinion it is someone who helps your child get closer to their goals and potential as a soccer player. It is also someone who isn't a determent to your child's passion for the game, and ideally someone who helps foster it. There is a LOT more to it, but this is a good foundation for our conversation I think.
With that out of the way, lets go through your examples and then perhaps a few of my own.
- Former college/pro player; Player experience can help in some ways, but certainly isn't an end all be all. Good coaches will use this experience to help relate to how players think and feel. It can also be a great tool to be able to properly demonstrate technique a bit better than those without the experience as a player (assuming the coach was a technical player to begin with). Downside can be they try to train your youth player like a college / pro player - which depending on age/personalities can be a disaster.
- Years of coaching experience; Experience can be a great teacher, I would say if I had to pick a coach solely based on how many years of coaching they have had, I'd obviously go with one who's been doing it longer (isn't that most professions?) But again this doesn't guarantee a good coach, just a better chance of one. Downsides can be some coaches are just stuck in their ways and entrenched to the point they would never get fired from their club, even if they are doing a poor job.
- Level of coaching license; Again, generally a net positive. I always try to further my coaching education, whether it's through courses, books , videos etc. I will say I'm not a big fan of the US Soccer coaching classes (especially the new format...) I'd probably rank the license itself the lowest out of your list, aside from country of origin - but education itself is important (it doesn't always come with a fancy diploma)
- Originally from Europe/South America, etc.; Generally all this gives you is a cool accent (haha! only mostly joking). What I find is most of the guys who come over here to coach from outside the US are young guys looking to get started in their career, generally because their country of origin is so saturated or so corrupt that they'd never get a chance. So while they aren't necessarily bad coaches and have a lot of passion for the game - it doesn't make them good coaches just cause they are from another place. Upsides are generally a passion for the sport, and perhaps a longer history with it (e.g. grew up with it). Downsides can be a strict adherence to a particular play style that is generally what is played by their country of origin.
- Level of coaching experience (HS, MS, youth); I'd say this probably applies more to what age group my DD or DS is compared to the experience of the coach I'm getting. I know coaches who are great with older kids, who do horribly with U9s, 10s etc (and vice versa). Experience certainly helps, doesn't guarantee anything, but ideally I'd want a coach who has some experience within a few years of the team my child plays for them on.
Now for my big disclaimer. The best way to tell is to do your own research. Go to some of their games. Attend some training sessions. Talk to parents - hell talk to the coach! Everyone is always so scared, you shouldn't be. I will talk soccer for hours for those who want to engage in discussion. My club and parents know that I don't sugar coat anything and I don't play politics. Things are MUCH easier this way.
Coaches who truly develop players generally have a reputation of doing so. That being said not every "good" coach is for your child! Do your homework. You pay too much money and invest too much time to make choices based off of what is on a piece of paper or website, put in the extra time to find the best fit for your child.
-Coach
Very nice reading. Thank you for your keen insight.