Anonymous
01/11/2020 08:06
Subject: Re:Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice
State Dept responds saying the extradition request is “highly inappropriate”.
Because when it comes to niceties and manners, it is far worse to ask for justice than to crush the internal organs of a 19-year-old.
Because when it comes to niceties and manners, it is far worse to ask for justice than to crush the internal organs of a 19-year-old.
Anonymous
01/10/2020 23:33
Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice
Anonymous wrote:That's tragic, but this isn't a unique case, unfortunately. It's happened in the US as well.
Wasn’t his name Ted Kennedy?
Anonymous
01/10/2020 20:33
Subject: Re:Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UK has sent an extradition notice for Sacoolas to Justice Dept. Response will be interesting.
Wow! Should be interesting. Will justice ever be served here?
It's already served
A top diplomat does, indeed, have full immunity, as do any deputies or families members. That means a foreign ambassador can commit just about any crime, from running a red light to murder, and escape prosecution. ... And the diplomat's own government can always waive immunity.
Anonymous
01/10/2020 17:54
Subject: Re:Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice
Anonymous wrote:UK has sent an extradition notice for Sacoolas to Justice Dept. Response will be interesting.
Wow! Should be interesting. Will justice ever be served here?
Anonymous
01/10/2020 17:49
Subject: Re:Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice
UK has sent an extradition notice for Sacoolas to Justice Dept. Response will be interesting.
Anonymous
12/21/2019 21:14
Subject: Re:Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice
Anonymous wrote:UK’s Crown Prosecution Service has charged Sacoolas with death by dangerous driving.
But State Department says her extradition to UK would be “an egregious abuse”. Anyone from State care to talk us through exactly where abuse of the system lies?
I am in awe of his parents, who despite their grief, kept this story in the news and managed to pressure the prosecutor to file charges.
The spirit of the law is to keep diplomats available to do the work of their countries, not to protect reckless family members.
Anonymous
12/21/2019 20:58
Subject: Re:Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice
UK’s Crown Prosecution Service has charged Sacoolas with death by dangerous driving.
But State Department says her extradition to UK would be “an egregious abuse”. Anyone from State care to talk us through exactly where abuse of the system lies?
But State Department says her extradition to UK would be “an egregious abuse”. Anyone from State care to talk us through exactly where abuse of the system lies?
Anonymous
10/30/2019 15:24
Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The double standard between this thread and the cruise line grandpa thread (off topic) is astonishing. I’m following both.
So many over there think his remorse is enough/no charges needed. Over here, not so much.
In both cases, someone got dead because someone did something careless/reckless. Why the double standard?
You honestly don't get the difference between death by a stranger versus a relative?
Huh? WTF is the difference?
The difference in blame. Sure they both did something careless. But the family wants to blame someone, and blaming a stranger is much easier than blaming a relative. So if you as the relative are responsible some people feel that is punishment enough. I think it's a greater degree of agony. You might feel horrible about killing someone you didn't know, but devastated if you killed your granddaughter and have to see her parents all of the time with everyone knowing you were responsible.
Now you tell me why it's the same.
No, if you kill someone you kill someone. Good thing the police know that and decide who to charge.
Grandfather was negligent and was charged.
Driver was negligent and SHOULD be charged.
Anonymous
10/30/2019 15:17
Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We don’t decide legal punishments in this country based upon how much agony the perpetrator feels. Good grief.
We don't? Why are there victim impact statements? If the victim pleads clemency to the perpetrator is that not taken in consideration in the sentencing?
Sentencing maybe. But determine the charge? Returning the verdict? No. Two completely different things. During the trial its “did person A commit crime X?” Yes or No. Not “how upset is person A about it?”
Anonymous
10/30/2019 14:46
Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice
Anonymous wrote:We don’t decide legal punishments in this country based upon how much agony the perpetrator feels. Good grief.
We don't? Why are there victim impact statements? If the victim pleads clemency to the perpetrator is that not taken in consideration in the sentencing?
Anonymous
10/30/2019 13:10
Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice
Hope the US couple are busy titling all their assets tenants by the entirety, if they weren’t already. And hopefully they had umbrella insurance.
Anonymous
10/30/2019 12:44
Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice
We don’t decide legal punishments in this country based upon how much agony the perpetrator feels. Good grief.
Anonymous
10/30/2019 10:58
Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The double standard between this thread and the cruise line grandpa thread (off topic) is astonishing. I’m following both.
So many over there think his remorse is enough/no charges needed. Over here, not so much.
In both cases, someone got dead because someone did something careless/reckless. Why the double standard?
You honestly don't get the difference between death by a stranger versus a relative?
Huh? WTF is the difference?
The difference in blame. Sure they both did something careless. But the family wants to blame someone, and blaming a stranger is much easier than blaming a relative. So if you as the relative are responsible some people feel that is punishment enough. I think it's a greater degree of agony. You might feel horrible about killing someone you didn't know, but devastated if you killed your granddaughter and have to see her parents all of the time with everyone knowing you were responsible.
Now you tell me why it's the same.
Anonymous
10/30/2019 09:50
Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The double standard between this thread and the cruise line grandpa thread (off topic) is astonishing. I’m following both.
So many over there think his remorse is enough/no charges needed. Over here, not so much.
In both cases, someone got dead because someone did something careless/reckless. Why the double standard?
You honestly don't get the difference between death by a stranger versus a relative?
Huh? WTF is the difference?
Anonymous
10/30/2019 09:37
Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The double standard between this thread and the cruise line grandpa thread (off topic) is astonishing. I’m following both.
So many over there think his remorse is enough/no charges needed. Over here, not so much.
In both cases, someone got dead because someone did something careless/reckless. Why the double standard?
You honestly don't get the difference between death by a stranger versus a relative?
There is no legal difference.