Anonymous wrote:I've felt sorry for Thomas Markle for a long time. He raised
Meghan mostly as a single Dad. She went to an elite private grade school in Hollywood and an elite private high school. He paid for her Northwestern
tuition (not chump change). Dad paid for top notch education for his daughter every step of the way. She got her start in show biz
through his connections.

When she met Harry she was hanging out in high society circles and I believe she thought her Dad, although a decent
chap was not up to British Royal standards. Meghan was not
without money. She could have found $400 to fly from
Toronto to Mexico to introduce Harry to Dad. I believe
she felt her odds of sealing her engagement were
stronger if Harry did not meet Dad and if she
embellished her family upbringing as being problematic.

Who the heck does not introduce their fiance to their
Dad, one who she talked so highly about on her blog.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re suing a paper...but her father gave the letter to the paper. And her father tried calling her while the reporter from the paper being sued was present. She and her friends (who are speaking with her blessing on her behalf) have criticized her father for never reaching out. And that’s not true. She changed her number, and that’s why her father tried calling her in front of the reporter.

She’s a liar. She has no loyalty. She uses people then casts them aside. She’s traded up to royalty, and now she’s spinning to curate her new reality.

And Harry is no better.

They are self-centered and self-serving. They only care about themselves. They deserve eachother. Thank goodness he’s just the “spare.”

Didn’t know anyone on DCUM knew them personally.

You don’t need to in order to confirm those facts and the timeline. She sent her dad a letter in Aug. of 2018 that from the wording seemed like she hoped he would leak it to the media as it made her the victim. He didn’t. Then she had her five friends all bring it up in the PEOPLE article in Feb. of 2019. Thomas then gave it to the Mail on Sunday to refute it.

I’m actually beginning to feel sorry for her father. Seems like he isn’t the brightest and she is taking complete advantage of him to curate her victim story.

I pity the children of any person who looks at what her father has done and sees something sympathetic and logical.

If you love your kids you don't take money in exchange for airing their dirty laundry and humiliating them on a global stage. Period. No matter how mad you are at them.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re suing a paper...but her father gave the letter to the paper. And her father tried calling her while the reporter from the paper being sued was present. She and her friends (who are speaking with her blessing on her behalf) have criticized her father for never reaching out. And that’s not true. She changed her number, and that’s why her father tried calling her in front of the reporter.

She’s a liar. She has no loyalty. She uses people then casts them aside. She’s traded up to royalty, and now she’s spinning to curate her new reality.

And Harry is no better.

They are self-centered and self-serving. They only care about themselves. They deserve eachother. Thank goodness he’s just the “spare.”

Didn’t know anyone on DCUM knew them personally.

You don’t need to in order to confirm those facts and the timeline. She sent her dad a letter in Aug. of 2018 that from the wording seemed like she hoped he would leak it to the media as it made her the victim. He didn’t. Then she had her five friends all bring it up in the PEOPLE article in Feb. of 2019. Thomas then gave it to the Mail on Sunday to refute it.

I’m actually beginning to feel sorry for her father. Seems like he isn’t the brightest and she is taking complete advantage of him to curate her victim story.

I pity the children of any person who looks at what her father has done and sees something sympathetic and logical.

If you love your kids you don't take money in exchange for airing their dirty laundry and humiliating them on a global stage. Period. No matter how mad you are at them.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re suing a paper...but her father gave the letter to the paper. And her father tried calling her while the reporter from the paper being sued was present. She and her friends (who are speaking with her blessing on her behalf) have criticized her father for never reaching out. And that’s not true. She changed her number, and that’s why her father tried calling her in front of the reporter.

She’s a liar. She has no loyalty. She uses people then casts them aside. She’s traded up to royalty, and now she’s spinning to curate her new reality.

And Harry is no better.

They are self-centered and self-serving. They only care about themselves. They deserve eachother. Thank goodness he’s just the “spare.”

Didn’t know anyone on DCUM knew them personally.

You don’t need to in order to confirm those facts and the timeline. She sent her dad a letter in Aug. of 2018 that from the wording seemed like she hoped he would leak it to the media as it made her the victim. He didn’t. Then she had her five friends all bring it up in the PEOPLE article in Feb. of 2019. Thomas then gave it to the Mail on Sunday to refute it.

I’m actually beginning to feel sorry for her father. Seems like he isn’t the brightest and she is taking complete advantage of him to curate her victim story.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re suing a paper...but her father gave the letter to the paper. And her father tried calling her while the reporter from the paper being sued was present. She and her friends (who are speaking with her blessing on her behalf) have criticized her father for never reaching out. And that’s not true. She changed her number, and that’s why her father tried calling her in front of the reporter.

She’s a liar. She has no loyalty. She uses people then casts them aside. She’s traded up to royalty, and now she’s spinning to curate her new reality.

And Harry is no better.

They are self-centered and self-serving. They only care about themselves. They deserve eachother. Thank goodness he’s just the “spare.”

Didn’t know anyone on DCUM knew them personally.

Anonymous wrote:They’re suing a paper...but her father gave the letter to the paper. And her father tried calling her while the reporter from the paper being sued was present. She and her friends (who are speaking with her blessing on her behalf) have criticized her father for never reaching out. And that’s not true. She changed her number, and that’s why her father tried calling her in front of the reporter.

She’s a liar. She has no loyalty. She uses people then casts them aside. She’s traded up to royalty, and now she’s spinning to curate her new reality.

And Harry is no better.

They are self-centered and self-serving. They only care about themselves. They deserve eachother. Thank goodness he’s just the “spare.”

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a royal watcher or a fan of the royals. But the latest media accounts seem to support her father as merely trying to defend himself in response to her friends giving an interview to People magazine—seemingly with Meghan’s blessing given she and the royal PR machine didn’t deny that the interview had her blessing. Her friends made it seem like poor Meghan sent her father a loving letter to mend fences...and they went on to criticize her dad. He felt compelled to share portions of the letter with the media to defend himself.

The fact that she and Harry announced the lawsuit in the middle of their visit to Africa speak volumes about them. Everyone has said that was a bad move. It was obviously calculated to detract attention from the truth from her father’s letter. They certainly didn’t contemplate the impact on their royal visit/job. It’s always about them.

I think both Meghan and Harry are self-centered, attention-seeming, insecure people. They deserve each other.

A) Her father isn’t being sued so everything you wrote is immaterial.

B) The announcement timing was the best thing Prince Harry could have decided on, here’s why:

DP. Sure, they released their "humanizing" letter at the same time as filing the lawsuit. But the lawsuit and letter, timed for the end of their very successful African tour, took all the attention from that and put it back on them.

Self centered. And clueless.

Funny. The press seems to be able to do two things at once. Point out how well the tour went AND study the lawsuit.

Did You Catch the Meaningful Message Behind Meghan Markle's Africa Tour Wardrobe?
https://www.people.com/royals/meghan-markle-meaningful-message-africa-tour-wardrobe/amp/

‘Royal activists!’ How Meghan and Harry’s trip to Africa has defined them
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1186549/meghan-markle-prince-harry-princess-diana-south-africa-tour-royal-family-news/amp

Meghan redefined what it means to be a royal during the Africa tour
https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2019/10/03/africa/meghan-harry-africa-tour-analysis-gbr-intl/index.html

Meghan speaks about tackling gender-based violence in South Africa
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-49890314

Weird how they can't also scrutinize Andrew fraternizing with a pedophile and his ex wife taking money from the same pedophile

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a royal watcher or a fan of the royals. But the latest media accounts seem to support her father as merely trying to defend himself in response to her friends giving an interview to People magazine—seemingly with Meghan’s blessing given she and the royal PR machine didn’t deny that the interview had her blessing. Her friends made it seem like poor Meghan sent her father a loving letter to mend fences...and they went on to criticize her dad. He felt compelled to share portions of the letter with the media to defend himself.

The fact that she and Harry announced the lawsuit in the middle of their visit to Africa speak volumes about them. Everyone has said that was a bad move. It was obviously calculated to detract attention from the truth from her father’s letter. They certainly didn’t contemplate the impact on their royal visit/job. It’s always about them.

I think both Meghan and Harry are self-centered, attention-seeming, insecure people. They deserve each other.

A) Her father isn’t being sued so everything you wrote is immaterial.

B) The announcement timing was the best thing Prince Harry could have decided on, here’s why:

DP. Sure, they released their "humanizing" letter at the same time as filing the lawsuit. But the lawsuit and letter, timed for the end of their very successful African tour, took all the attention from that and put it back on them.

Self centered. And clueless.

Funny. The press seems to be able to do two things at once. Point out how well the tour went AND study the lawsuit.

Did You Catch the Meaningful Message Behind Meghan Markle's Africa Tour Wardrobe?
https://www.people.com/royals/meghan-markle-meaningful-message-africa-tour-wardrobe/amp/

‘Royal activists!’ How Meghan and Harry’s trip to Africa has defined them
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1186549/meghan-markle-prince-harry-princess-diana-south-africa-tour-royal-family-news/amp

Meghan redefined what it means to be a royal during the Africa tour
https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2019/10/03/africa/meghan-harry-africa-tour-analysis-gbr-intl/index.html

Meghan speaks about tackling gender-based violence in South Africa
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-49890314

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Remember all the crappy people waging on Archie's looks? Light skinned, dark skinned, they were hiding his face, yeh, shut up!

Protect their hearts, Harry. Statement was impeccable.

Honestly, I think Harry is just upset that he isn't adored by the public anymore. MM has ruined his image and this is his version of a tantrum.

Yeah totally. Has nothing to do with his mother's life being ruined and eventually ended by the paparazzi and having some anxiety about that happening to his wife. I'm sure his mother's death and the circumstances surrounding it had no impact on his young mind and personality.

Princess Diana was killed by her drunk driver. I read that had she stayed with her protection than she would be alive. MM is no where near the popularity of Princess Diana. The Sussexes are getting bad advice and I think this lawsuit is not going to help. Nobody likes being lectured about the environment and then watch you follow different rules. They have been having good press with the African tour and now that's all gone. I feel sorry for Thomas Markle. Sure, he made a mistake having the letter published but, probably to him it was the only way to communicate to Meghan.

Diana was hounded by the press FOR YEARS. And regardless of the status of her driver she was killed in a high speed chase trying to evade the paparazzi. If you think Harry thinks rationally about that you are nuts. Don't argue with me about that. My point isn't about Diana's guilt or lack thereof. It is about the perception of her son who was 12 when his mother died while being chased by photographers and after being maligned by the British press despite the fact that her own husband had cheated on HER.

If you think that had no formative effect on him and impacts GREATLY how her perceives his wife being treated by the press (and likely how he perceives William's supposed indiscretions with Rose Hanbury) then you are denying human nature.

I never indicated Harry's perceptions of his mother at all. However, Princess Diana also used the press to her advantage as well. Sure Harry sees that she was hounded and perhaps she was but, Meghan is no Diana.

That is your perception. Harry's perception is pretty critical here. And Harry's perception of what happened to his mother probably heavily influences how Meghan sees what happened to his mother. These are real people with real emotional histories and lives that impact the decisions they make. Not these cartoon villains you make them out to be.

Where did you get the idea that I said they were villains? I am merely stating that this lawsuit will do them no good regardless of what happened to his mother. I never denied that what happened did influence him, however, Meghan is no Diana. Full stop. Just because Prince Harry says it does not make it so.

I can't honestly meaningfully tell the mildly annoyed with the Sussex' posters and the clearly abhorrently racist posters apart. Just because it's all anonymous.

Just because you are against someone does not make them racist. You can not like someone based on their character.

+1. That pp had to invent allegations that someone called them villains because the truth that some people just don't like Harry and Meghan for legitimate reasons doesn't fit with their narrative.

If Harry is so worried about the media's impact on M's safety, then they can stop courting them. If they start supporting themselves and stop with the royal engagements (and M's brand new celebrity "friendships" and events) like some of his relatives have done, then they'll fade away and enjoy private lives. But it's clear that they don't want private lives. They want to be front and center and in the media and also completely control the messaging, which isn't reasonable. There's a solution to Harry and Meghan's "problem" but they just don't like it.

I'm the PP. The way numerous people have talked about her in this thread constitutes synonymous with villain. People have called her a tart, a social climber, selfish, narcissistic, only in it for the fame and equated her to Wallis Simpson of all people (known nazi!). The language used to talk about her is REVOLTING.

I can't always tell if the person I'm responding to is someone who has indulged in that or someone who is just turned off by this particular lawsuit. I fully acknowledge that some people might just not like them and that is totally fine and fair. But the level of noxious and hateful language used by posters in this thread points to something a whole lot more than passive dislike. PP is correct in that particular exchange none of the language rose to that level, so I acknowledged that I might have grouped them with the terrible people incorrectly. And I apologize if I did. But I won't apologize for calling out the abhorrent people who ARE posting.

The solution you are proposing would make everyone call them lazy and living off the British taxpayers (same as they say about Kate!). Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Nope, not damned at all if they stop living off the taxpayers' dime per above. I believe the whole monarchy should stop living off the taxpayers' dime, too.

Are you paying taxes there?

Quit trying to deflect from the fact that this is a valid solution for Harry and Meghan to fix the "problem" that they claim to be so concerned about.

So again, are you paying taxes there or are you bitter about something that doesn’t concern you?

DP, but you can't be serious, can you? None of this thread concerns us (including you) yet here we all are.

Thank you. PPP who suggested M and H have a valid solution to fix the "problem" that they claim to be so concerned about here. The PP you're responding to knows she lost the argument regarding poor poor M and H being "damned if they do and damned if they don't" so now she's trying to change the argument to whether or not I pay taxes and therefore have a right to be concerned. As you pointed out, that's a ridiculous argument because none of this concerns any of us yet we're all here opining about it, as we're entitled to on a thread in an entire forum that don't really concern any of us. She's deflecting from the issue at hand.

DCUM would be interesting if only Hilaria, Alec, and maybe Kim could weigh in on Hilaria's antics, but that's not the way this forum is currently run. If Jeff decides to limit posters to the BRF and maybe Meghan's parents and siblings, then I'll oblige. But not until then.

Anonymous wrote:No one on here is discussing the Africa tour. We’re all discussing the stupid lawsuit. Sure there are some PR planted Africa articles out there- also some video or something they’re putting out themselves about he tour- but no one cares- they just look like the entitled, self absorbed people that they are.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a royal watcher or a fan of the royals. But the latest media accounts seem to support her father as merely trying to defend himself in response to her friends giving an interview to People magazine—seemingly with Meghan’s blessing given she and the royal PR machine didn’t deny that the interview had her blessing. Her friends made it seem like poor Meghan sent her father a loving letter to mend fences...and they went on to criticize her dad. He felt compelled to share portions of the letter with the media to defend himself.

The fact that she and Harry announced the lawsuit in the middle of their visit to Africa speak volumes about them. Everyone has said that was a bad move. It was obviously calculated to detract attention from the truth from her father’s letter. They certainly didn’t contemplate the impact on their royal visit/job. It’s always about them.

I think both Meghan and Harry are self-centered, attention-seeming, insecure people. They deserve each other.

A) Her father isn’t being sued so everything you wrote is immaterial.

B) The announcement timing was the best thing Prince Harry could have decided on, here’s why:

DP. Sure, they released their "humanizing" letter at the same time as filing the lawsuit. But the lawsuit and letter, timed for the end of their very successful African tour, took all the attention from that and put it back on them.

Self centered. And clueless.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a royal watcher or a fan of the royals. But the latest media accounts seem to support her father as merely trying to defend himself in response to her friends giving an interview to People magazine—seemingly with Meghan’s blessing given she and the royal PR machine didn’t deny that the interview had her blessing. Her friends made it seem like poor Meghan sent her father a loving letter to mend fences...and they went on to criticize her dad. He felt compelled to share portions of the letter with the media to defend himself.

The fact that she and Harry announced the lawsuit in the middle of their visit to Africa speak volumes about them. Everyone has said that was a bad move. It was obviously calculated to detract attention from the truth from her father’s letter. They certainly didn’t contemplate the impact on their royal visit/job. It’s always about them.

I think both Meghan and Harry are self-centered, attention-seeming, insecure people. They deserve each other.

A) Her father isn’t being sued so everything you wrote is immaterial.

B) The announcement timing was the best thing Prince Harry could have decided on, here’s why: