Anonymous
Post 10/06/2019 09:00     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump
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Anonymous wrote:We almost certainly won’t get 2/3 of the senate. But if we get just a few republicans breaking from the party and having a majority of the senate vote to convict it will be a small victory.


Now that would be a heck of a price to pay if this effort to impeach the president results in the House going back to the Republicans - a risk that Pelosi herself acknowledges is a reality.

It explains why Pelosi is so reluctant to hold a vote to approve an inquiry because she does not want vulnerable Democratic House members to have this on record. And in the meantime, Trump has said he will not release any documents that were subpoenaed until the House approves the impeachment inquiry.

So the remedy is to go to court and all the way to the Supreme court which will likely take months to resolve.



All this will help the GOP retain the Senate and probably win the House.


So be it. Country before politics and keeping your seat. What is the seat worth if you hand the country over to foreign powers to keep it?


There was an easy solution: win the 2020 election which is about a year away instead of this moronic decision to impeach Trump with the knowledge that there is no chance of actually removing him from office.

Pelosi, who has great political instincts, must have felt really vulnerable to have gone along with this hare-brained scheme just because of pressure from the left.


1) that gives Trump a full year plus a transition period to inflict serious damage to our country
2) do you think, when Trump loses, whether in 2020 or in 2024 when he has to go, that is going to go voluntarily?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2019 08:59     Subject: Re:Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump
Anonymous wrote:This is Congress' duty under the Constitution. And if it's proven that Trump withheld Congressionally-allocated aid to Ukraine - a key geopolitical ally in the middle of a war against Russia - to extort them to dig up dirt on Biden, then he should be removed from office. Period.


Please add "forcing Ukraine to cede Donbass to Russia" to this, because that happened as well.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2019 08:58     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump
Trump was going to smear Biden regardless. Further, no way will he be the most likely to defeat trump in a year. Warren is surging and Biden is slipping.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2019 08:57     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump
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Anonymous wrote:The inquiry will further expose behaviors that the voters are already angry about. It’s not moronic.


And yet, Pelosi does not want to have a vote to approve the inquiry!


Having a vote will expose the GOP on the fence more than anything else. I don't know why you keep banging the drum on this, it only hurts the GOP. There are already enough dems and Amash who support this, to proceed. She is doing the GOP a huge favor by allowing the facts to be surfaced before getting the GOP on the record.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2019 08:56     Subject: Re:Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump
Anonymous wrote:This is Congress' duty under the Constitution. And if it's proven that Trump withheld Congressionally-allocated aid to Ukraine - a key geopolitical ally in the middle of a war against Russia - to extort them to dig up dirt on Biden, then he should be removed from office. Period.


Hmm! For that to happen, you need 20 Republican senators to flip ........ and in the meantime, Biden is the casualty. The guy with the best chance of winning against Trump.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2019 08:55     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We almost certainly won’t get 2/3 of the senate. But if we get just a few republicans breaking from the party and having a majority of the senate vote to convict it will be a small victory.


Now that would be a heck of a price to pay if this effort to impeach the president results in the House going back to the Republicans - a risk that Pelosi herself acknowledges is a reality.

It explains why Pelosi is so reluctant to hold a vote to approve an inquiry because she does not want vulnerable Democratic House members to have this on record. And in the meantime, Trump has said he will not release any documents that were subpoenaed until the House approves the impeachment inquiry.

So the remedy is to go to court and all the way to the Supreme court which will likely take months to resolve.



All this will help the GOP retain the Senate and probably win the House.

Which should not be the priority of any Republican who puts country over party


I disagree. Putting country over party means less DC partisan politics and more focus on actually winning the election next year.


Putting country over party means doing what's right for the country even if it means your party loses. No Republican is willing to do that.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2019 08:54     Subject: Re:Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump
This is Congress' duty under the Constitution. And if it's proven that Trump withheld Congressionally-allocated aid to Ukraine - a key geopolitical ally in the middle of a war against Russia - to extort them to dig up dirt on Biden, then he should be removed from office. Period.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2019 08:54     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump
Anonymous wrote:The inquiry will further expose behaviors that the voters are already angry about. It’s not moronic.


And yet, Pelosi does not want to have a vote to approve the inquiry!
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2019 08:47     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump
The inquiry will further expose behaviors that the voters are already angry about. It’s not moronic.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2019 08:46     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump
It’s partisan to perform constitutional duty to hold an out of control branch accountable?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2019 08:46     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We almost certainly won’t get 2/3 of the senate. But if we get just a few republicans breaking from the party and having a majority of the senate vote to convict it will be a small victory.


Now that would be a heck of a price to pay if this effort to impeach the president results in the House going back to the Republicans - a risk that Pelosi herself acknowledges is a reality.

It explains why Pelosi is so reluctant to hold a vote to approve an inquiry because she does not want vulnerable Democratic House members to have this on record. And in the meantime, Trump has said he will not release any documents that were subpoenaed until the House approves the impeachment inquiry.

So the remedy is to go to court and all the way to the Supreme court which will likely take months to resolve.



All this will help the GOP retain the Senate and probably win the House.


So be it. Country before politics and keeping your seat. What is the seat worth if you hand the country over to foreign powers to keep it?


There was an easy solution: win the 2020 election which is about a year away instead of this moronic decision to impeach Trump with the knowledge that there is no chance of actually removing him from office.

Pelosi, who has great political instincts, must have felt really vulnerable to have gone along with this hare-brained scheme just because of pressure from the left.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2019 08:44     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We almost certainly won’t get 2/3 of the senate. But if we get just a few republicans breaking from the party and having a majority of the senate vote to convict it will be a small victory.


Now that would be a heck of a price to pay if this effort to impeach the president results in the House going back to the Republicans - a risk that Pelosi herself acknowledges is a reality.

It explains why Pelosi is so reluctant to hold a vote to approve an inquiry because she does not want vulnerable Democratic House members to have this on record. And in the meantime, Trump has said he will not release any documents that were subpoenaed until the House approves the impeachment inquiry.

So the remedy is to go to court and all the way to the Supreme court which will likely take months to resolve.



All this will help the GOP retain the Senate and probably win the House.

Which should not be the priority of any Republican who puts country over party


I disagree. Putting country over party means less DC partisan politics and more focus on actually winning the election next year.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2019 08:43     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump
I say hold the vote. It may “hurt” but the additional info about the executive branch’s antics will help.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2019 08:40     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We almost certainly won’t get 2/3 of the senate. But if we get just a few republicans breaking from the party and having a majority of the senate vote to convict it will be a small victory.


Now that would be a heck of a price to pay if this effort to impeach the president results in the House going back to the Republicans - a risk that Pelosi herself acknowledges is a reality.

It explains why Pelosi is so reluctant to hold a vote to approve an inquiry because she does not want vulnerable Democratic House members to have this on record. And in the meantime, Trump has said he will not release any documents that were subpoenaed until the House approves the impeachment inquiry.

So the remedy is to go to court and all the way to the Supreme court which will likely take months to resolve.



All this will help the GOP retain the Senate and probably win the House.[/quote

So be it. Country before politics and keeping your seat. What is the seat worth if you hand the country over to foreign powers to keep it?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2019 08:38     Subject: Sign of Republicans Lawmakers Turning on Trump
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We almost certainly won’t get 2/3 of the senate. But if we get just a few republicans breaking from the party and having a majority of the senate vote to convict it will be a small victory.


Now that would be a heck of a price to pay if this effort to impeach the president results in the House going back to the Republicans - a risk that Pelosi herself acknowledges is a reality.

It explains why Pelosi is so reluctant to hold a vote to approve an inquiry because she does not want vulnerable Democratic House members to have this on record. And in the meantime, Trump has said he will not release any documents that were subpoenaed until the House approves the impeachment inquiry.

So the remedy is to go to court and all the way to the Supreme court which will likely take months to resolve.



All this will help the GOP retain the Senate and probably win the House.

Which should not be the priority of any Republican who puts country over party