Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seats have gotten very, very slightly smaller - but the ratio of people exploding in size outweighs (no pun intended) any measure that could possibly keep up.

If you cannot contain your body within the confines of the seat, seatback, legroom, and armrests, then you need to purchase more space, period.

That goes for dudes who spread their legs obnoxiously wide like they're suffering from some sort of testicular or penile infection.

BS there have been numerous articles about the shrinking seats. It's enough of a problem that they're considering legislation to address it!

Sorry, it's not BS. Here are some vintage airline seats. Do you honestly see a big difference? The "big" difference is in the size of the people - not the size of the seats. If they look spacious to you, it's because the people were smaller. Legroom has decreased, however.

On the "My-600-pound Life" show a couple of weeks ago an almost 700-pound woman was flying from Ohio to Texas to see a bariatric surgeon. She was so obese she couldn't walk on her own and was literally carted onto the plane. I was wondering how she would possibly fit in an seat, and it looked like she had all three seats to herself and filled them all up!!
An extreme example, of course, but still.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seats have gotten very, very slightly smaller - but the ratio of people exploding in size outweighs (no pun intended) any measure that could possibly keep up.

If you cannot contain your body within the confines of the seat, seatback, legroom, and armrests, then you need to purchase more space, period.

That goes for dudes who spread their legs obnoxiously wide like they're suffering from some sort of testicular or penile infection.

BS there have been numerous articles about the shrinking seats. It's enough of a problem that they're considering legislation to address it!

And United is the WORST with their seats and legroom. 5'4, 120 lbs. I'm not claiming extreme thinness, but I fit in a seat just fine. I flew from ORD-PHX on an MD-80 and my knees were literally in bottom of the tray table the whole way there and I couldn't put it down.

I am *5'4*. Not 6'4.

So I believe there's something to the ridiculous size of the seats. That said, it should be simple:

1) Seatbelt extender = extra seat

2) Not putting down armrests/flowing under or over armrest = extra seat

3) Don't make everyone else suffer by taking the seat away when it's actually booked.

That couple should have bought the third seat in their row, though.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a prime example of making your own problem someone else's.

+1

Exactly. Make the couple, who knowingly booked their seats *one seat away from each other, out of necessity* pay for three seats, if not four. They didn't ven want to sit next to ach other! Give me a break. When is enough enough on a freaking airplane?

My parents book seats like that. If no one sits there, they have extra room. If someone does, they move together and give the window to the 3rd person.

Are they morbidly obese?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seats have gotten very, very slightly smaller - but the ratio of people exploding in size outweighs (no pun intended) any measure that could possibly keep up.

If you cannot contain your body within the confines of the seat, seatback, legroom, and armrests, then you need to purchase more space, period.

That goes for dudes who spread their legs obnoxiously wide like they're suffering from some sort of testicular or penile infection.

BS there have been numerous articles about the shrinking seats. It's enough of a problem that they're considering legislation to address it!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/comment/plane-seats-legroom-shrunk-worst-airline/

The dudes who spread their legs like they have an STD probably do have an STD, but that is not my problem. Same iwth them taking the arm rests. Not going to happen.

So United is actually one of the airlines that requires obese passengers to purchase an extra seat if they can not put the arm rests down or encroach on the adjacent seat. The couple clearly didn't purchase additional seats because they were in a 3 seat row. Why didn't United address this at the gate before everyone boarded and follow their own policy?

United -
If you can’t buckle your seatbelt (with an extension if necessary) and fit into a seat with the armrests down — and without encroaching “significantly” on the adjacent space — you must purchase an additional seat or pay for an upgrade to a roomier seat on United. The carrier recommends buying two seats at the time of booking, at which time you’ll pay the same fare for the second seat; if you wait until the day of travel, you’ll pay the fare available that day. If no additional seats or upgrades are available, you’ll have to rebook on the next flight with availability. (United will waive change fees.)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a prime example of making your own problem someone else's.

+1

Exactly. Make the couple, who knowingly booked their seats *one seat away from each other, out of necessity* pay for three seats, if not four. They didn't ven want to sit next to ach other! Give me a break. When is enough enough on a freaking airplane?

My parents book seats like that. If no one sits there, they have extra room. If someone does, they move together and give the window to the 3rd person.

"And while this person was horrible, it is the airline’s fault for allowing this couple to board without an extra seat. There is zero way any airline employee missed or underestimated the size of the couple."

x100000

Anonymous wrote:Almost every flight has non paying passengers who are family to airline employees or off duty airline employees. They are supposed to wait until all paying customers have been seated but they don't. In fact they often take the best seats and any leftovers in first class.
I was assigned a seat between two obese passengers and refused. I told flight attendants to move a non rev. passenger and they did. She opted to wait for another flight.

Family doesn’t fly for free. Reduced, yes but not for free. And they are always seated last.

Anonymous wrote:Seats have gotten very, very slightly smaller - but the ratio of people exploding in size outweighs (no pun intended) any measure that could possibly keep up.

If you cannot contain your body within the confines of the seat, seatback, legroom, and armrests, then you need to purchase more space, period.

That goes for dudes who spread their legs obnoxiously wide like they're suffering from some sort of testicular or penile infection.

BS there have been numerous articles about the shrinking seats. It's enough of a problem that they're considering legislation to address it!

Anonymous wrote:This is a prime example of making your own problem someone else's.

+1

Exactly. Make the couple, who knowingly booked their seats *one seat away from each other, out of necessity* pay for three seats, if not four. They didn't ven want to sit next to ach other! Give me a break. When is enough enough on a freaking airplane?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The lady was extremely rude. I saw somebody in a similar situation during a flight; the flight attendant very discretely assigned an other seat when she realized that the situation could become source of tension and discomfort.

And what happens when there ISN'T another seat? It's standard practice for airlines to overbook every flight now.

The severely obese person should get bumped if they didn't purchase enough space for their needs.

Are you not reading the posts in this thread? There have been a few examples, that keep getting repeated, where it has been explained that even when an obese person purchases two seats, the airline takes it back because they “overbooked”.

I 100% agree that if you cannot fit into your seat that you must purchase a second seat. And people who have not purchased the seat, should not be able to board without securing the extra seat. Assessing someone’s ability to sit in the seat can be done at check-in or in the boarding area. But the airlines cannot then take it back. Until that practice stops - buying an extra seat doesn’t solve the problem.

And while this person was horrible, it is the airline’s fault for allowing this couple to board without an extra seat. There is zero way any airline employee missed or underestimated the size of the couple.

I can't believe this thread is THIS long and every post isn't "wow, what a nutcase!" She's a nutcase! That's the story. Not the chubby people.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The nurse was the one calling the squished woman "b*tch". Nothing that the squished woman said had to be bleeped out.

I don't think that any of these three people handled the situation well. They were all three incredibly rude. But the rudeness was premeditated on the part of the obese passengers. Why didn't one of them offer to sit in the middle seat to spare the woman from being squished from both sides? They knew darned well that no one would want to sit there and they knew it before they boarded that plane. They suck. And the rude lady sucked for not politely asking an attendant to help find her another seat.

What did the guy do? He sat there and took it from that horrible woman and then politely got up so she could exit.

He failed to offer up his aisle seat to her as he squished her uncomfortably between himself and his sweetie.

The rude woman fit within the space of her seat, this man and his girlfriend were encroaching on the woman. Nobody in their right mind would want to squeeze between the two of them. They, themselves, did not want to sit next to each other. Why? because they new they couldn't fit next to each other. If you are so big that you are making another passenger's seat unusable, you really should be buying a first class seat or two seats.

He paid extra for that seat why should he have to give it up? Greyhound in the sky people. You are flying with the unwashed masses, deal with it.