Anonymous
03/19/2021 19:08
Subject: Why do top US universities weed out most pre-med kids & then we import foreign MDs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because the AMA has significant control over the number of accredited medical schools and the number of seats they have.
Which explains why the U.S. has by far the highest paid doctors in the world.
I don't understand the logic- what's the point of tightly controlling the number of medical school graduates per year in order to retain their profession's high compensation, when a good chunk (did someone upthread say 25%?) of the residency spots are left open for foreign medical graduates to fill? Why not educate Americans to fill close to 100% of the residency spots?
Because the AMA lobby has the power to influence the number of accredited medical schools, number of seats, and government funded residencies, but not to have overall control over immigration.
Anonymous
03/19/2021 14:21
Subject: Re:Why do top US universities weed out most pre-med kids & then we import foreign MDs?
Anonymous wrote:Your post is so offensive.
As if ANY American is superior to any graduate from another country.
Hopefully all professional schools have standards, and your daughter's friends did not meet the standards in place. The immigrants getting jobs in the US did. What is hard to understand.
It's not about who's superior, it's about who's qualified. We can import foreign doctors but also have more good American doctors.
Anonymous
03/19/2021 11:39
Subject: Why do top US universities weed out most pre-med kids & then we import foreign MDs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because the AMA has significant control over the number of accredited medical schools and the number of seats they have.
Which explains why the U.S. has by far the highest paid doctors in the world.
I don't understand the logic- what's the point of tightly controlling the number of medical school graduates per year in order to retain their profession's high compensation, when a good chunk (did someone upthread say 25%?) of the residency spots are left open for foreign medical graduates to fill? Why not educate Americans to fill close to 100% of the residency spots?
Why do they need foreigners to fill those slots? To have someone work inner city and rural areas because no one else wants to. If there are no doctors working in inner city/rural areas, a large chunk of voters will start people screaming for more doctors and the gig will be up.
Why do foreigners work in those areas while US doctors don't? Foreign-born doctors are allowed to come here to study on an Exchange visitor visa, unlike typical grad students who come here on a student visa. This visa requires them to leave the country for 2 years after the purpose of their exchange visit (i.e. Residency) has ended. But, there's an exception. They do not have to leave the country if, you guessed it, they work in under-served areas such as inner cities and rural areas.
It's a cartel, and it's smart.
Yep. Look at the long lead times for getting a specialist appointment. In India (cities at least), I can see THE BEST doctor in any specialty the same day or latest within the week.. and these guys have certifications that run a mile long from top institutions in the UK and US. You rarely see doctors of that calibre for a regular visit in the US. They are probably so busy that they only deal with critical cases. Of course, as another PP pointed out, most of them are sorely lacking in manners, are brusque and have a take-it-or-leave-it attitude (a-hole level, IMHO) which is still a problem with that profession in the US but not as bad.
Anonymous
03/19/2021 10:16
Subject: Re:Why do top US universities weed out most pre-med kids & then we import foreign MDs?
Your post is so offensive.
As if ANY American is superior to any graduate from another country.
Hopefully all professional schools have standards, and your daughter's friends did not meet the standards in place. The immigrants getting jobs in the US did. What is hard to understand.
As if ANY American is superior to any graduate from another country.
Hopefully all professional schools have standards, and your daughter's friends did not meet the standards in place. The immigrants getting jobs in the US did. What is hard to understand.
Anonymous
03/19/2021 09:07
Subject: Why do top US universities weed out most pre-med kids & then we import foreign MDs?
The medical board wants to limit the supply (aka the number of medical students) in order to inflate the prices of the medical services.