Anonymous
12/21/2018 13:37
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Have you been to Hoawrd Law lately? But more importantly do you know where the Banneker site sits in relation to Howard University?
There's nothing racist in wondering whether Howard U might covet land directly across the street from it more than land in the backwaters of Van Ness. Did you even think your rant through before you jumped to your conclusions?
But yes, UDC can't be moved for a whole host of political and perception reasons - but there's nicer ways to tell people that, because if you haven't noticed, a lot of people here are relatively new to the city and don't know the local history.
This pretty much sums up DC, doesn't it? Perception and politics outweighs logic, efficiency, better quality services, and economics all the time. It's the DC Way.
Except that Chocolate City is melting, if you haven't noticed.
Anonymous
12/21/2018 13:33
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Have you been to Hoawrd Law lately? But more importantly do you know where the Banneker site sits in relation to Howard University?
There's nothing racist in wondering whether Howard U might covet land directly across the street from it more than land in the backwaters of Van Ness. Did you even think your rant through before you jumped to your conclusions?
But yes, UDC can't be moved for a whole host of political and perception reasons - but there's nicer ways to tell people that, because if you haven't noticed, a lot of people here are relatively new to the city and don't know the local history.
Black schools are not chess pieces for white DC to move around to satisfy our every whim. If Howard or UDC think moves are in their best interests, presumably they’ll pursue them. Don’t insult us by suggesting that you have their best interests at heart.
Why aren’t we speculating on whether, say, Burke might want to relocate? They have a beautiful building that would be great for a DCPS! And what about Maret, so close to the metro, on all of that beautiful land. Perfect for a charter school! Maybe Georgetown Law would want to move out of their space near Union Station to be closer to the main campus....
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Anonymous
12/21/2018 13:29
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Have DCPS buy the old Intelsat building in Van Ness. Put a HS there.
A private school already bought it.
Anonymous
12/21/2018 13:00
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Have DCPS buy the old Intelsat building in Van Ness. Put a HS there.
Anonymous
12/21/2018 12:43
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Have you been to Hoawrd Law lately? But more importantly do you know where the Banneker site sits in relation to Howard University?
There's nothing racist in wondering whether Howard U might covet land directly across the street from it more than land in the backwaters of Van Ness. Did you even think your rant through before you jumped to your conclusions?
But yes, UDC can't be moved for a whole host of political and perception reasons - but there's nicer ways to tell people that, because if you haven't noticed, a lot of people here are relatively new to the city and don't know the local history.
There's nothing racist in wondering whether Howard U might covet land directly across the street from it more than land in the backwaters of Van Ness. Did you even think your rant through before you jumped to your conclusions?
But yes, UDC can't be moved for a whole host of political and perception reasons - but there's nicer ways to tell people that, because if you haven't noticed, a lot of people here are relatively new to the city and don't know the local history.
Anonymous
12/21/2018 12:26
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Something centered around swapping part of Howard Law for old Banneker might work, although I would hope to save that site for another magnet school.
Finding real estate is the easy part! Have you met the groups of people this satisfies?
What about moving UDC, which hardly has any students in Ward 3? That large parcel could be a great site for several schools, recreational facilities and redevelopment along Conn. Ave. Mayor Williams proposed moving UDC to the St. Elizabeths campus to be closer to the population that UDC serves.
Well, aren’t these two posts just the perfect encapsulation of racist DCUM bullshit?
I mean, why wouldn’t we just uproot established schools that primarily serve black students because we have the sads that Deal has trailers again?
Do you all hear yourselves? It’s shameful.
Anonymous
12/21/2018 12:00
Subject: Re:Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:End the oob feeder rights for starters.
It only happened 10 years ago, with Michelle Rhee.
Before that, everyone oob from feeder elementaries had to enter the lottery. Melissa Kim, the Deal principal in those days, believed in kids moving up with their classmates but she kept control of the numbers.
Michelle Rhee changed all that in one moment.
I wouldn’t end OOB feeder rights outright. Instead DCPS should condition the OOB ability to progress on to Deal and Wilson based on grades, test scores and a satisfactory conduct record. It’s a way of saying that DC has invested in certain kids by giving them a sought-after place in a Deal feeder. So then the student has to show that the investment has been worthwhile before DCPS doubles down on that investment. Take some of the spots held by the kids who are weeded out and give other OOB kids the chance at Deal, those who have demonstrated by their records that they will work hard and follow the rules.
Why do you assume that OOB students don't have good grades, test scores, good conduct?
DCPS is a public school system, not a private school. DCPS already has rules that if you are excessively truant or have excessive absences you can lose your OOB privileges. That is more than enough conditions.
No, it's not. In a system of limited spots, in order to continue in the feeder program, isn't it logical to give the spots to the kids who work hard and achieve (not to mention are not discipline problems)? Cull those who are troublemakers or don't apply themselves. Give the opportunity to those who will take advantage of it.
Anonymous
12/21/2018 11:52
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:School 1: Brightwood, Janney, Lafayette, March, Powell, Shepherd and West
School 2: Bancroft, Cooke, Eaton, Hearst, Hyde, Marie Reed, Mann, Oyster-Adams, and Stoddert
Both would be around 500 a class
How does this not work? It checks the most positive blocks and the least amount of negative ones. Each has diversity. Each has a highly educated population. Each brings in currently underserved but growing areas. It's geographically sound. It's hugely symbolic by uniting both sides of the park. Each increases resident and student retention. Each increases property values. Each has schools with available OOB spots. Each would be filled.
Adams is a bilingual middle school, and a pretty high performing one.
Anonymous
12/21/2018 11:11
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Key is far apart from everywhere in DC logistically.
Cynicism is great but we're at the point where the one school we have is at capacity while at the same time whole other neighborhoods are entering a tipping point where people will either stay or leave.
Cynicism is great but we're at the point where the one school we have is at capacity while at the same time whole other neighborhoods are entering a tipping point where people will either stay or leave.
Anonymous
12/21/2018 10:58
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
I feel like this forum is a constant reinvention of the same discussions on this front. It isn't as thought these types of things haven't been thought of backward and forward six times til Sunday - always introduced as tho they are new.
BTW - Key and Bancroft are about as far apart logistically as any of the schools on the total list.
BTW - Key and Bancroft are about as far apart logistically as any of the schools on the total list.
Anonymous
12/21/2018 10:53
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:School 1: Brightwood, Janney, Lafayette, March, Powell, Shepherd and West
School 2: Bancroft, Cooke, Eaton, Hearst, Hyde, Marie Reed, Mann, Oyster-Adams, and Stoddert
Both would be around 500 a class
How does this not work? It checks the most positive blocks and the least amount of negative ones. Each has diversity. Each has a highly educated population. Each brings in currently underserved but growing areas. It's geographically sound. It's hugely symbolic by uniting both sides of the park. Each increases resident and student retention. Each increases property values. Each has schools with available OOB spots. Each would be filled.
Sounds good, where would you put #2?
I suggested Van Ness (based on potential land availability) but the real answer is wherever I could find a spot of land that isn't too much of a PITA for both Key and Bancroft people.
Anonymous
12/21/2018 10:52
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Something centered around swapping part of Howard Law for old Banneker might work, although I would hope to save that site for another magnet school.
Finding real estate is the easy part! Have you met the groups of people this satisfies?
What about moving UDC, which hardly has any students in Ward 3? That large parcel could be a great site for several schools, recreational facilities and redevelopment along Conn. Ave. Mayor Williams proposed moving UDC to the St. Elizabeths campus to be closer to the population that UDC serves.
Anonymous
12/21/2018 10:50
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:I would love my DC to attend Banneker but I worry about being one of only a few non AA kids in the class. Similar situation in Pre-K (mostly Spanish speaking Hispanic kids) and DC was very lonely. Hope the school becomes more diverse because academics seem top notch
Hispanic teenagers speak English, especially if they are at Banneker. You cannot apply your experience in Pre-K to HS. Most of the time Hispanic teenagers are the family translator.
Anonymous
12/21/2018 10:49
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:School 1: Brightwood, Janney, Lafayette, March, Powell, Shepherd and West
School 2: Bancroft, Cooke, Eaton, Hearst, Hyde, Marie Reed, Mann, Oyster-Adams, and Stoddert
Both would be around 500 a class
How does this not work? It checks the most positive blocks and the least amount of negative ones. Each has diversity. Each has a highly educated population. Each brings in currently underserved but growing areas. It's geographically sound. It's hugely symbolic by uniting both sides of the park. Each increases resident and student retention. Each increases property values. Each has schools with available OOB spots. Each would be filled.
Sounds good, where would you put #2?
I'm over cross-park "symbolism." It's not the Eighties anymore in DC. Barry is gone, Klingle Road (touted as a symbolic cross-town route to schools) is a bike trail, and most neighborhoods east of the park are gentrified. I don't want my child or her schools to be some symbolic guinea pig.
Anonymous
12/21/2018 10:20
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:School 1: Brightwood, Janney, Lafayette, March, Powell, Shepherd and West
School 2: Bancroft, Cooke, Eaton, Hearst, Hyde, Marie Reed, Mann, Oyster-Adams, and Stoddert
Both would be around 500 a class
How does this not work? It checks the most positive blocks and the least amount of negative ones. Each has diversity. Each has a highly educated population. Each brings in currently underserved but growing areas. It's geographically sound. It's hugely symbolic by uniting both sides of the park. Each increases resident and student retention. Each increases property values. Each has schools with available OOB spots. Each would be filled.
Sounds good, where would you put #2?