I can't believe I just read 17 pages.

Okay, so OP's husband went to all this effort to be "sweet" to her, propose after a year a half of trying to woo her, plan a wedding a full year after that, and was unhappy the entire time? He doesn't have to do those things so he's getting something out of it.

I wonder if there is something about OP that embarrassed OPs husband that he liked her -- maybe she is handicapped or a divorcee or comes from a broken home or very poor. He is obviously immature and was embarrassed by her so he just told his friends that she was a "side" -- might have told them that she pressured him to propose and then when she got pregnant, his friends could fill in the rest. Or maybe in LA, all his friends dated supermodels and she was just normal and he had weird insecurity issues. Or maybe he does feel trapped because he doesn't know how to be in a good relationship.

The stereotype is that he had an overly controlling and manipulative mother who always "needed" him and couldn't be on her own. Maybe his dad left or his parents divorced. It doesn't sound like he has any experience with a healthy relationship but yet isn't secure enough to be alone. OP doesn't mention the family -- where are they?

Let me guess. He was a fraternity brother at Clemson?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm one of the pps you thanked for being kind. So sorry this thread has gone off the rails, but that happens on this board some times. Take it with a grain of salt.

Sounds like you've taken some really positive steps for yourself. Way to go! You can do this.

And, easy on the Advil. My neuro told me that if you take it for more than two days in a row, it can trigger withdrawal headache. Keep your Tylenol/Advil plan quite short.

Best of luck.

Op is deluding herself that her husband is remorseful and scared about this. Being supportive of her denial is not a kindness. Being supportive of her going to therapy to gain strength and understanding of the situation is helpful. Telling her to work on her marriage to psychopath is akin to blaming the victim here - not cool.

This is not Op's fault. Her husband and his friends have quite literally been snubbing her for years. There is a level of contempt and cruelty here that is NOT normal. Her husband will continue to treat her like crap and undermine her sense of self worth in order to keep her under control.

+1 well said

+2

Very.

"Kind" poster here. I realize you feel that your "calling it like you see it"/tough love approach will ultimately be helpful. Unfortunately, calling the OP delusional and telling her she's wrong to want to work on her marriage - whatever you might judge of it or her circumstances from what you know from an anonymous internet post - is profoundly damaging. The OP needs to come to her own conclusions about her husband, her kids, her needs, and her marriage IN HER OWN TIME.

Second, if you read all of my comments, you will see that I specifically stated that (in a post you didn't quote), that recovery from this sort of behavior requires 200% commitment on the part of her DH and that it was not a good sign that her DH was not showing that effort yet. But, I still trust the OP to decide for herself what all of this means. Further, it's ok that she does not decide today to respond in a certain way or to take drastic action, like divorce. Her feelings and circumstances may change over time and with the help of a therapist, which I strongly encouraged her to see ASAP (on an emergency basis, if necessary - another post you failed to quote), she can determine what she wants to do. Thankfully, she's taking that advice.

Look, it's one thing to affirm what OP clearly already knows, which is that her husband has not treated her in a loving or respectful manner. It's also perfectly ok to encourage OP to get professional support as she works out what that fact means for her and what decisions she'd like to take in response. I'd even say it would be helpful for OP to hear from BTDT posters who have faced similar challenges and how they handled it. But, that's really where it needs to stop. OP needs to process. She needs space to breathe and reflect and decide for herself the best course of action. One step at a time.

The problem is you have the wrong problem. This isn't about his "behavior" (his badmouthing.) It's because he actually doesn't like being married, and doesn't love his wife.

You are in no position to conclude that. And even if you think it's logically deducible, how does it help OP to be forced to confront your anonymous internet judgement about her marriage?

Seriously. How does this help??? You think OP is going to slap herself on her forehead and say, "OMG! This person on the internet thinks my husband doesn't love me. They must be right and I'm exactly the delusional f-up he's been saying I am - because they are saying it too. But now I will leave him, destroy my kids lives and my own because the Internet says I should."

Do you ever consider how it might feel to be on the receiving end of this advice?

+1

DP here. It might be that OP's DH is trying to gain favor with his friends, or get attention, for any number of reasons. He is obviously not a good person.

Honestly, that would be worse than if the DH were just actually unhappy with his relationship (albeit exaggerating it for his friends). It would be pathologically weird, and likely not limited just to the badmouthing thing.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm one of the pps you thanked for being kind. So sorry this thread has gone off the rails, but that happens on this board some times. Take it with a grain of salt.

Sounds like you've taken some really positive steps for yourself. Way to go! You can do this.

And, easy on the Advil. My neuro told me that if you take it for more than two days in a row, it can trigger withdrawal headache. Keep your Tylenol/Advil plan quite short.

Best of luck.

Op is deluding herself that her husband is remorseful and scared about this. Being supportive of her denial is not a kindness. Being supportive of her going to therapy to gain strength and understanding of the situation is helpful. Telling her to work on her marriage to psychopath is akin to blaming the victim here - not cool.

This is not Op's fault. Her husband and his friends have quite literally been snubbing her for years. There is a level of contempt and cruelty here that is NOT normal. Her husband will continue to treat her like crap and undermine her sense of self worth in order to keep her under control.

+1 well said

+2

Very.

"Kind" poster here. I realize you feel that your "calling it like you see it"/tough love approach will ultimately be helpful. Unfortunately, calling the OP delusional and telling her she's wrong to want to work on her marriage - whatever you might judge of it or her circumstances from what you know from an anonymous internet post - is profoundly damaging. The OP needs to come to her own conclusions about her husband, her kids, her needs, and her marriage IN HER OWN TIME.

Second, if you read all of my comments, you will see that I specifically stated that (in a post you didn't quote), that recovery from this sort of behavior requires 200% commitment on the part of her DH and that it was not a good sign that her DH was not showing that effort yet. But, I still trust the OP to decide for herself what all of this means. Further, it's ok that she does not decide today to respond in a certain way or to take drastic action, like divorce. Her feelings and circumstances may change over time and with the help of a therapist, which I strongly encouraged her to see ASAP (on an emergency basis, if necessary - another post you failed to quote), she can determine what she wants to do. Thankfully, she's taking that advice.

Look, it's one thing to affirm what OP clearly already knows, which is that her husband has not treated her in a loving or respectful manner. It's also perfectly ok to encourage OP to get professional support as she works out what that fact means for her and what decisions she'd like to take in response. I'd even say it would be helpful for OP to hear from BTDT posters who have faced similar challenges and how they handled it. But, that's really where it needs to stop. OP needs to process. She needs space to breathe and reflect and decide for herself the best course of action. One step at a time.

The problem is you have the wrong problem. This isn't about his "behavior" (his badmouthing.) It's because he actually doesn't like being married, and doesn't love his wife.

You are in no position to conclude that. And even if you think it's logically deducible, how does it help OP to be forced to confront your anonymous internet judgement about her marriage?

Seriously. How does this help??? You think OP is going to slap herself on her forehead and say, "OMG! This person on the internet thinks my husband doesn't love me. They must be right and I'm exactly the delusional f-up he's been saying I am - because they are saying it too. But now I will leave him, destroy my kids lives and my own because the Internet says I should."

Do you ever consider how it might feel to be on the receiving end of this advice?

+1

DP here. It might be that OP's DH is trying to gain favor with his friends, or get attention, for any number of reasons. He is obviously not a good person.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm one of the pps you thanked for being kind. So sorry this thread has gone off the rails, but that happens on this board some times. Take it with a grain of salt.

Sounds like you've taken some really positive steps for yourself. Way to go! You can do this.

And, easy on the Advil. My neuro told me that if you take it for more than two days in a row, it can trigger withdrawal headache. Keep your Tylenol/Advil plan quite short.

Best of luck.

Op is deluding herself that her husband is remorseful and scared about this. Being supportive of her denial is not a kindness. Being supportive of her going to therapy to gain strength and understanding of the situation is helpful. Telling her to work on her marriage to psychopath is akin to blaming the victim here - not cool.

This is not Op's fault. Her husband and his friends have quite literally been snubbing her for years. There is a level of contempt and cruelty here that is NOT normal. Her husband will continue to treat her like crap and undermine her sense of self worth in order to keep her under control.

+1 well said

+2

Very.

"Kind" poster here. I realize you feel that your "calling it like you see it"/tough love approach will ultimately be helpful. Unfortunately, calling the OP delusional and telling her she's wrong to want to work on her marriage - whatever you might judge of it or her circumstances from what you know from an anonymous internet post - is profoundly damaging. The OP needs to come to her own conclusions about her husband, her kids, her needs, and her marriage IN HER OWN TIME.

Second, if you read all of my comments, you will see that I specifically stated that (in a post you didn't quote), that recovery from this sort of behavior requires 200% commitment on the part of her DH and that it was not a good sign that her DH was not showing that effort yet. But, I still trust the OP to decide for herself what all of this means. Further, it's ok that she does not decide today to respond in a certain way or to take drastic action, like divorce. Her feelings and circumstances may change over time and with the help of a therapist, which I strongly encouraged her to see ASAP (on an emergency basis, if necessary - another post you failed to quote), she can determine what she wants to do. Thankfully, she's taking that advice.

Look, it's one thing to affirm what OP clearly already knows, which is that her husband has not treated her in a loving or respectful manner. It's also perfectly ok to encourage OP to get professional support as she works out what that fact means for her and what decisions she'd like to take in response. I'd even say it would be helpful for OP to hear from BTDT posters who have faced similar challenges and how they handled it. But, that's really where it needs to stop. OP needs to process. She needs space to breathe and reflect and decide for herself the best course of action. One step at a time.

The problem is you have the wrong problem. This isn't about his "behavior" (his badmouthing.) It's because he actually doesn't like being married, and doesn't love his wife.

You are in no position to conclude that. And even if you think it's logically deducible, how does it help OP to be forced to confront your anonymous internet judgement about her marriage?

Seriously. How does this help??? You think OP is going to slap herself on her forehead and say, "OMG! This person on the internet thinks my husband doesn't love me. They must be right and I'm exactly the delusional f-up he's been saying I am - because they are saying it too. But now I will leave him, destroy my kids lives and my own because the Internet says I should."

Do you ever consider how it might feel to be on the receiving end of this advice?

Ummm ... I'm not OP's therapist. But I have encountered a guy who did something similar, and he was not a good guy. Neither scenario is looking good here -- either OP's husband has literally been lying to his friends for 5 years to gain points by insulting his wife; or OP's husband really means it, and is unhappy. Honestly, the latter would be less disordered and disturbing than the former. I think OP needs to realize her situation. There are no BTDT situation with people who have "faced similar challenges" because this is a really bizarre situation. It's MUCH better for OP to realize that then treat this like a garden variety rough patch in her marriage.

I mean OP's husband ...

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm one of the pps you thanked for being kind. So sorry this thread has gone off the rails, but that happens on this board some times. Take it with a grain of salt.

Sounds like you've taken some really positive steps for yourself. Way to go! You can do this.

And, easy on the Advil. My neuro told me that if you take it for more than two days in a row, it can trigger withdrawal headache. Keep your Tylenol/Advil plan quite short.

Best of luck.

Op is deluding herself that her husband is remorseful and scared about this. Being supportive of her denial is not a kindness. Being supportive of her going to therapy to gain strength and understanding of the situation is helpful. Telling her to work on her marriage to psychopath is akin to blaming the victim here - not cool.

This is not Op's fault. Her husband and his friends have quite literally been snubbing her for years. There is a level of contempt and cruelty here that is NOT normal. Her husband will continue to treat her like crap and undermine her sense of self worth in order to keep her under control.

+1 well said

+2

Very.

"Kind" poster here. I realize you feel that your "calling it like you see it"/tough love approach will ultimately be helpful. Unfortunately, calling the OP delusional and telling her she's wrong to want to work on her marriage - whatever you might judge of it or her circumstances from what you know from an anonymous internet post - is profoundly damaging. The OP needs to come to her own conclusions about her husband, her kids, her needs, and her marriage IN HER OWN TIME.

Second, if you read all of my comments, you will see that I specifically stated that (in a post you didn't quote), that recovery from this sort of behavior requires 200% commitment on the part of her DH and that it was not a good sign that her DH was not showing that effort yet. But, I still trust the OP to decide for herself what all of this means. Further, it's ok that she does not decide today to respond in a certain way or to take drastic action, like divorce. Her feelings and circumstances may change over time and with the help of a therapist, which I strongly encouraged her to see ASAP (on an emergency basis, if necessary - another post you failed to quote), she can determine what she wants to do. Thankfully, she's taking that advice.

Look, it's one thing to affirm what OP clearly already knows, which is that her husband has not treated her in a loving or respectful manner. It's also perfectly ok to encourage OP to get professional support as she works out what that fact means for her and what decisions she'd like to take in response. I'd even say it would be helpful for OP to hear from BTDT posters who have faced similar challenges and how they handled it. But, that's really where it needs to stop. OP needs to process. She needs space to breathe and reflect and decide for herself the best course of action. One step at a time.

The problem is you have the wrong problem. This isn't about his "behavior" (his badmouthing.) It's because he actually doesn't like being married, and doesn't love his wife.

You are in no position to conclude that. And even if you think it's logically deducible, how does it help OP to be forced to confront your anonymous internet judgement about her marriage?

Seriously. How does this help??? You think OP is going to slap herself on her forehead and say, "OMG! This person on the internet thinks my husband doesn't love me. They must be right and I'm exactly the delusional f-up he's been saying I am - because they are saying it too. But now I will leave him, destroy my kids lives and my own because the Internet says I should."

Do you ever consider how it might feel to be on the receiving end of this advice?

Ummm ... I'm not OP's therapist. But I have encountered a guy who did something similar, and he was not a good guy. Neither scenario is looking good here -- either OP has literally been lying to his friends for 5 years to gain points by insulting his wife; or OP really means it, and is unhappy. Honestly, the latter would be less disordered and disturbing than the former. I think OP needs to realize her situation. There are no BTDT situation with people who have "faced similar challenges" because this is a really bizarre situation. It's MUCH better for OP to realize that then treat this like a garden variety rough patch in her marriage.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm one of the pps you thanked for being kind. So sorry this thread has gone off the rails, but that happens on this board some times. Take it with a grain of salt.

Sounds like you've taken some really positive steps for yourself. Way to go! You can do this.

And, easy on the Advil. My neuro told me that if you take it for more than two days in a row, it can trigger withdrawal headache. Keep your Tylenol/Advil plan quite short.

Best of luck.

Op is deluding herself that her husband is remorseful and scared about this. Being supportive of her denial is not a kindness. Being supportive of her going to therapy to gain strength and understanding of the situation is helpful. Telling her to work on her marriage to psychopath is akin to blaming the victim here - not cool.

This is not Op's fault. Her husband and his friends have quite literally been snubbing her for years. There is a level of contempt and cruelty here that is NOT normal. Her husband will continue to treat her like crap and undermine her sense of self worth in order to keep her under control.

+1 well said

+2

Very.

"Kind" poster here. I realize you feel that your "calling it like you see it"/tough love approach will ultimately be helpful. Unfortunately, calling the OP delusional and telling her she's wrong to want to work on her marriage - whatever you might judge of it or her circumstances from what you know from an anonymous internet post - is profoundly damaging. The OP needs to come to her own conclusions about her husband, her kids, her needs, and her marriage IN HER OWN TIME.

Second, if you read all of my comments, you will see that I specifically stated that (in a post you didn't quote), that recovery from this sort of behavior requires 200% commitment on the part of her DH and that it was not a good sign that her DH was not showing that effort yet. But, I still trust the OP to decide for herself what all of this means. Further, it's ok that she does not decide today to respond in a certain way or to take drastic action, like divorce. Her feelings and circumstances may change over time and with the help of a therapist, which I strongly encouraged her to see ASAP (on an emergency basis, if necessary - another post you failed to quote), she can determine what she wants to do. Thankfully, she's taking that advice.

Look, it's one thing to affirm what OP clearly already knows, which is that her husband has not treated her in a loving or respectful manner. It's also perfectly ok to encourage OP to get professional support as she works out what that fact means for her and what decisions she'd like to take in response. I'd even say it would be helpful for OP to hear from BTDT posters who have faced similar challenges and how they handled it. But, that's really where it needs to stop. OP needs to process. She needs space to breathe and reflect and decide for herself the best course of action. One step at a time.

The problem is you have the wrong problem. This isn't about his "behavior" (his badmouthing.) It's because he actually doesn't like being married, and doesn't love his wife.

You are in no position to conclude that. And even if you think it's logically deducible, how does it help OP to be forced to confront your anonymous internet judgement about her marriage?

Seriously. How does this help??? You think OP is going to slap herself on her forehead and say, "OMG! This person on the internet thinks my husband doesn't love me. They must be right and I'm exactly the delusional f-up he's been saying I am - because they are saying it too. But now I will leave him, destroy my kids lives and my own because the Internet says I should."

Do you ever consider how it might feel to be on the receiving end of this advice?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm one of the pps you thanked for being kind. So sorry this thread has gone off the rails, but that happens on this board some times. Take it with a grain of salt.

Sounds like you've taken some really positive steps for yourself. Way to go! You can do this.

And, easy on the Advil. My neuro told me that if you take it for more than two days in a row, it can trigger withdrawal headache. Keep your Tylenol/Advil plan quite short.

Best of luck.

Op is deluding herself that her husband is remorseful and scared about this. Being supportive of her denial is not a kindness. Being supportive of her going to therapy to gain strength and understanding of the situation is helpful. Telling her to work on her marriage to psychopath is akin to blaming the victim here - not cool.

This is not Op's fault. Her husband and his friends have quite literally been snubbing her for years. There is a level of contempt and cruelty here that is NOT normal. Her husband will continue to treat her like crap and undermine her sense of self worth in order to keep her under control.

+1 well said

+2

Very.

"Kind" poster here. I realize you feel that your "calling it like you see it"/tough love approach will ultimately be helpful. Unfortunately, calling the OP delusional and telling her she's wrong to want to work on her marriage - whatever you might judge of it or her circumstances from what you know from an anonymous internet post - is profoundly damaging. The OP needs to come to her own conclusions about her husband, her kids, her needs, and her marriage IN HER OWN TIME.

Second, if you read all of my comments, you will see that I specifically stated that (in a post you didn't quote), that recovery from this sort of behavior requires 200% commitment on the part of her DH and that it was not a good sign that her DH was not showing that effort yet. But, I still trust the OP to decide for herself what all of this means. Further, it's ok that she does not decide today to respond in a certain way or to take drastic action, like divorce. Her feelings and circumstances may change over time and with the help of a therapist, which I strongly encouraged her to see ASAP (on an emergency basis, if necessary - another post you failed to quote), she can determine what she wants to do. Thankfully, she's taking that advice.

Look, it's one thing to affirm what OP clearly already knows, which is that her husband has not treated her in a loving or respectful manner. It's also perfectly ok to encourage OP to get professional support as she works out what that fact means for her and what decisions she'd like to take in response. I'd even say it would be helpful for OP to hear from BTDT posters who have faced similar challenges and how they handled it. But, that's really where it needs to stop. OP needs to process. She needs space to breathe and reflect and decide for herself the best course of action. One step at a time.

The problem is you have the wrong problem. This isn't about his "behavior" (his badmouthing.) It's because he actually doesn't like being married, and doesn't love his wife.

Anonymous wrote:He is scared he will be found out for the fraud of a man he is.

+2

Exactly. He is going to have to make a choice here...either 1) he comes clean to his friends and admits that he has been lying to them for years now, completely making up events and incidents and telling them elaborate tales that aren't true. Which...is most certainly going to affect his friends' view of him - the extent of this makes pretty much anyone look like a total sociopath. He knows they'll never see him in the same way. Or 2) he comes clean to you and admits that he is unhappy in his marriage, has never respected you, and has been dreaming of getting out for years (even though to your face he's been telling you otherwise).

He is a fraud of a man.

He is trying to slimily avoid either scenario, and if you try to go this "letters" route you'll let him. He'll send the letters, then meet up with the guys and immediately bitch about how the ol' ball and chain made him do it, she even wrote them herself, what a nag. That solves nothing for you!

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm one of the pps you thanked for being kind. So sorry this thread has gone off the rails, but that happens on this board some times. Take it with a grain of salt.

Sounds like you've taken some really positive steps for yourself. Way to go! You can do this.

And, easy on the Advil. My neuro told me that if you take it for more than two days in a row, it can trigger withdrawal headache. Keep your Tylenol/Advil plan quite short.

Best of luck.

Op is deluding herself that her husband is remorseful and scared about this. Being supportive of her denial is not a kindness. Being supportive of her going to therapy to gain strength and understanding of the situation is helpful. Telling her to work on her marriage to psychopath is akin to blaming the victim here - not cool.

This is not Op's fault. Her husband and his friends have quite literally been snubbing her for years. There is a level of contempt and cruelty here that is NOT normal. Her husband will continue to treat her like crap and undermine her sense of self worth in order to keep her under control.

+1 well said

+2

Very.

"Kind" poster here. I realize you feel that your "calling it like you see it"/tough love approach will ultimately be helpful. Unfortunately, calling the OP delusional and telling her she's wrong to want to work on her marriage - whatever you might judge of it or her circumstances from what you know from an anonymous internet post - is profoundly damaging. The OP needs to come to her own conclusions about her husband, her kids, her needs, and her marriage IN HER OWN TIME.

Second, if you read all of my comments, you will see that I specifically stated that (in a post you didn't quote), that recovery from this sort of behavior requires 200% commitment on the part of her DH and that it was not a good sign that her DH was not showing that effort yet. But, I still trust the OP to decide for herself what all of this means. Further, it's ok that she does not decide today to respond in a certain way or to take drastic action, like divorce. Her feelings and circumstances may change over time and with the help of a therapist, which I strongly encouraged her to see ASAP (on an emergency basis, if necessary - another post you failed to quote), she can determine what she wants to do. Thankfully, she's taking that advice.

Look, it's one thing to affirm what OP clearly already knows, which is that her husband has not treated her in a loving or respectful manner. It's also perfectly ok to encourage OP to get professional support as she works out what that fact means for her and what decisions she'd like to take in response. I'd even say it would be helpful for OP to hear from BTDT posters who have faced similar challenges and how they handled it. But, that's really where it needs to stop. OP needs to process. She needs space to breathe and reflect and decide for herself the best course of action. One step at a time.

OP, I know you said you're not religious, but even so, I think perhaps finding a reform Rabbi to talk to may be helpful. I feel like you guys need some outside help to figure this out. If there weren't kids, I'd tell you to bail, but with children involved, I think you need to do what you can to see if this is salvagable. Someone with at least a similar cultural background may be able to get through to him. And you.

I think, quite simply, that OP's DH grew up in a sh***y family, and OP grew up in a much nicer family (this is independent of money, or most anything else). Nice people don't learn this behavior and act like your DH, OP. You need a good person, from a nice family, not a sh***y person from a sh***y family. Nice people, good people know how to treat other people - NOT least of all, their spouse. My God.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm one of the pps you thanked for being kind. So sorry this thread has gone off the rails, but that happens on this board some times. Take it with a grain of salt.

Sounds like you've taken some really positive steps for yourself. Way to go! You can do this.

And, easy on the Advil. My neuro told me that if you take it for more than two days in a row, it can trigger withdrawal headache. Keep your Tylenol/Advil plan quite short.

Best of luck.

Op is deluding herself that her husband is remorseful and scared about this. Being supportive of her denial is not a kindness. Being supportive of her going to therapy to gain strength and understanding of the situation is helpful. Telling her to work on her marriage to psychopath is akin to blaming the victim here - not cool.

This is not Op's fault. Her husband and his friends have quite literally been snubbing her for years. There is a level of contempt and cruelty here that is NOT normal. Her husband will continue to treat her like crap and undermine her sense of self worth in order to keep her under control.

+1 well said

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Very.

Snubbing the bride at her own wedding....what gall does that take? I'm sorry, Op.

Anonymous wrote:You cannot BOUNCE BACK to anything because you were screwed from Day 1. He never respected you.

And he never will. And neither will his loser friends. They all suck. Dump His Azz.