Anonymous wrote:Pomona's great, as is Williams, but most TJ students don't want to be in the middle of nowhere. (from the perspective of a TJ parent who wishes their DC wanted to be at Williams or Pomona ...)

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP from the midpoint of this thread

Glad I finally got some reinforcements I got tired of arguing with that one poster the other day

just to echo prior poster

The chances of you getting into an elite top 20 college out of TJ are between 5-10% which is the actual acceptance rate of the greater applicant pool to these schools overall, draw whatever conclusions you want to my original point still stands

You must be blind.

And doesn't understand percentages.

And envious of TJ having one of the best if not the best college admissions in the country.

Have you been paying attention? Not supported by the facts.

Look for your self:

College/University Overall acceptance rate 2016/2017 TJ acceptance rate 2017

Amherst 13.7% (2016) 50%
Brown 8.3% 11.7%
Columbia 5.8% 10%
Cornell 12.5% 15.9%
Dartmouth 10.4% 12.1%
Duke 9% 13.4%
Georgetown 15% 36.8%
Harvard 5.2% 6.6%
Johns Hopkins 11.8% 13.1%
MIT 7.1% 10.7%
Princeton 6.1% 8.4%
Stanford 4.65% 5.7%
Chicago 7.9% (2016) 17.9%
Penn 9.15% 12.2%
Yale 6.9% 11.1%
UC Berkeley 17.8% 35%
Michigan 26% 49.2%

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP from the midpoint of this thread

Glad I finally got some reinforcements I got tired of arguing with that one poster the other day

just to echo prior poster

The chances of you getting into an elite top 20 college out of TJ are between 5-10% which is the actual acceptance rate of the greater applicant pool to these schools overall, draw whatever conclusions you want to my original point still stands

You must be blind.

And doesn't understand percentages.

And envious of TJ having one of the best if not the best college admissions in the country.

Have you been paying attention? Not supported by the facts.

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP from the midpoint of this thread

Glad I finally got some reinforcements I got tired of arguing with that one poster the other day

just to echo prior poster

The chances of you getting into an elite top 20 college out of TJ are between 5-10% which is the actual acceptance rate of the greater applicant pool to these schools overall, draw whatever conclusions you want to my original point still stands

You must be blind.

And doesn't understand percentages.

And envious of TJ having one of the best if not the best college admissions in the country.

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP from the midpoint of this thread

Glad I finally got some reinforcements I got tired of arguing with that one poster the other day

just to echo prior poster

The chances of you getting into an elite top 20 college out of TJ are between 5-10% which is the actual acceptance rate of the greater applicant pool to these schools overall, draw whatever conclusions you want to my original point still stands

You must be blind.

And doesn't understand percentages.

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP from the midpoint of this thread

Glad I finally got some reinforcements I got tired of arguing with that one poster the other day

just to echo prior poster

The chances of you getting into an elite top 20 college out of TJ are between 5-10% which is the actual acceptance rate of the greater applicant pool to these schools overall, draw whatever conclusions you want to my original point still stands

You must be blind.

Anonymous wrote:This is OP from the midpoint of this thread

Glad I finally got some reinforcements I got tired of arguing with that one poster the other day

just to echo prior poster

The chances of you getting into an elite top 20 college out of TJ are between 5-10% which is the actual acceptance rate of the greater applicant pool to these schools overall, draw whatever conclusions you want to my original point still stands

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Anonymous wrote:This just proves to me that elite college acceptance is a crap shoot these days

Look at the acceptance rates for the top 10 schools they are all around 10% or less that's nuts

I bet the people that did get accepted got multiple schools so the reality is even at TJ the chance of you getting into an elite top 10 school is 5% or less which is crazy

I don't want to derail the thread but anyone thinking TJ has a leg up on college admissions this shows otherwise.

This assumes that all TJ students apply to elite schools. If TJ is anything like Blair, I'm guessing that's not the case. Many donut hole families don't apply because they cannot afford to send their qualified kids there.

The data is all there take the accepted/applied its 10% or less for the elite schools

Many donut hole families don't apply. THEY DO NOT EVEN APPLY. Even if their kids are qualified to attend elite schools.

When will DCUM understand that application and admissions to elite schools is not shorthand for how qualified a given student is?

First 70-110 is a decent sized group

Secondly and more importantly the sample size doesn't matter. I'm talking about the ACCEPTANCE RATE which is AVERAGE and jibes across the whole freaking USA

...because you can only be ACCEPTED if you APPLY. So yes, the ACCEPTANCE RATE is AVERAGE because the population includes a lot of students from donut hole families WHO DO NOT EVEN APPLY TO ELITES.

OMG are you really this dense the acceptance % irregardless of the raw numbers should be high jeez try and keep up

I share your frustration. I'm about to throw my office chair through my monitor.

Not pp, but I hope your TJ kids are better with statistics than you are. You're trying to argue that the kids that didn't apply were, on average, more qualified applicants than the kids that actually did apply. That doesn't make any sense. Do you have data that shows that the "donut hole" kids at TJ are more qualified than the richer and poorer kids? If the level of qualification is evenly distributed across the class at TJ (and not influenced by income) then the percentage of acceptances should carry through, no matter how many actually apply. In fact, there's reason to believe that kids that are best suited for schools in terms of qualifications apply to those schools. You are arguing that some kids that were qualified didn't apply because they can't afford it and won't get financial aid. However, that doesn't mean that those kids had a higher statistical likelihood of getting in than those who did actually apply. Yes, the gross number of acceptances may have been higher, but not the percentage of applicants admitted.

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Anonymous wrote:This just proves to me that elite college acceptance is a crap shoot these days

Look at the acceptance rates for the top 10 schools they are all around 10% or less that's nuts

I bet the people that did get accepted got multiple schools so the reality is even at TJ the chance of you getting into an elite top 10 school is 5% or less which is crazy

I don't want to derail the thread but anyone thinking TJ has a leg up on college admissions this shows otherwise.

This assumes that all TJ students apply to elite schools. If TJ is anything like Blair, I'm guessing that's not the case. Many donut hole families don't apply because they cannot afford to send their qualified kids there.

The data is all there take the accepted/applied its 10% or less for the elite schools

Many donut hole families don't apply. THEY DO NOT EVEN APPLY. Even if their kids are qualified to attend elite schools.

When will DCUM understand that application and admissions to elite schools is not shorthand for how qualified a given student is?

First 70-110 is a decent sized group

Secondly and more importantly the sample size doesn't matter. I'm talking about the ACCEPTANCE RATE which is AVERAGE and jibes across the whole freaking USA

...because you can only be ACCEPTED if you APPLY. So yes, the ACCEPTANCE RATE is AVERAGE because the population includes a lot of students from donut hole families WHO DO NOT EVEN APPLY TO ELITES.

OMG are you really this dense the acceptance % irregardless of the raw numbers should be high jeez try and keep up

I share your frustration. I'm about to throw my office chair through my monitor.

Anonymous wrote:Pomona's great, as is Williams, but most TJ students don't want to be in the middle of nowhere. (from the perspective of a TJ parent who wishes their DC wanted to be at Williams or Pomona ...)