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Anonymous wrote:Have we talked about the cost of the real estate in this series?

There is no way Madeleine and Ed could afford their house. Administrative director of a community theater and a web site designer? $14.8 million? I know tv always stretches these things but this goes beyond the standard "suspension of disbelief." LOL

http://www.vulture.com/2017/03/big-little-lies-houses-cost-location.html

In the book they're more middle class. In the show it sounds like he's a big tech guy who makes millions. I don't care. I like the house porn.

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Anonymous wrote:Have we talked about the cost of the real estate in this series?

There is no way Madeleine and Ed could afford their house. Administrative director of a community theater and a web site designer? $14.8 million? I know tv always stretches these things but this goes beyond the standard "suspension of disbelief." LOL

http://www.vulture.com/2017/03/big-little-lies-houses-cost-location.html

In the book they're more middle class. In the show it sounds like he's a big tech guy who makes millions. I don't care. I like the house porn.

Anonymous wrote:Have we talked about the cost of the real estate in this series?

There is no way Madeleine and Ed could afford their house. Administrative director of a community theater and a web site designer? $14.8 million? I know tv always stretches these things but this goes beyond the standard "suspension of disbelief." LOL

http://www.vulture.com/2017/03/big-little-lies-houses-cost-location.html

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a big change that won't spoil anything (and I could have forgotten it from the book) but I think the entire Avenue Q storyline is a David Kelley creation. Smaller things, I think Madeline and Ed also had a son. I thought Jane's encounter with Ziggy's dad was different but don't want to detail that because I see that that might be affecting other storylines later on. Also Jane's parents played a big(ger) role in her and ziggys lives.

Madeline and ED do not have a son in the book. Just Chloe.

Did you actually read the book? They do have an older son and that is actually how Maddeline knows Renata and where their issues stem from (interactions with that son's peer group).

Maddeline and Ed are both a lot happier, sunnier, and more laid back in the book. There is no real beef between Ed and Nathan, no affair, no Ave Q storyline. Madeline herself is much more relaxed and bubblier. Ed is a personable, fun surfer guy. All the other moms love him. I liked book Maddie but find her to be OTT in the tv series and borerline insufferable, a grown up version of Tracey Flick. In the novel, she is portrayed as gossipy and a busy body but ultimately lovable with a heart of gold. She's extremely extroverted and wears her heart on her sleeve, which sometimes gets her into trouble, but she's not this tightly wound creature constantly sniping at and exploding on the people around her. I'm surprised the writers went in this direction with the character. She's so unlike able.

Celeste is basically the same so far.

Hmm. I agree with you about the book version of Madeline, but I think it's one of those things that had to happen in a condensed version of the story. She was lovable and well-liked, which is why it was surprising to people that she lost her sh*t about seemingly inconsequential things. A girls' girl who nevertheless couldn't manage to get along with her own daughter or her ex-husband's new wife, though her (Maddie's) life was enviable in so many other ways. And those things bugged her more than anyone else and always made her feel like she still had to control and fix something.

Also, Celeste took an immediate liking to Jane in the book and they spent more time together one-on-one. The big breakaway from Perry wasn't with her career, it was a plan to actually leave him and steps taken to do it.

Please don't give book details that might be spoilers for the HBO series. We don't know how HBO go, but I'd hate to have details ruined for those lucky ones coming to this story for the first time.

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Please stop comparisons between the book and the series. You're spoiling the book and come close to spoiling the series. Does the board have a way to disguise spoilers? Or can you change your ink color to white and then those posts can only be seen by a reader highlighting the posts?

This is an interesting series that is totally new to me and now I want to read the book. I totally understand why people want to talk about it, so I'm looking for a way for anyone who reads the threads can avoid any potential spoilers, yet for others to be able to talk about the book and the series.

Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a big change that won't spoil anything (and I could have forgotten it from the book) but I think the entire Avenue Q storyline is a David Kelley creation. Smaller things, I think Madeline and Ed also had a son. I thought Jane's encounter with Ziggy's dad was different but don't want to detail that because I see that that might be affecting other storylines later on. Also Jane's parents played a big(ger) role in her and ziggys lives.

Madeline and ED do not have a son in the book. Just Chloe.

Did you actually read the book? They do have an older son and that is actually how Maddeline knows Renata and where their issues stem from (interactions with that son's peer group).

Maddeline and Ed are both a lot happier, sunnier, and more laid back in the book. There is no real beef between Ed and Nathan, no affair, no Ave Q storyline. Madeline herself is much more relaxed and bubblier. Ed is a personable, fun surfer guy. All the other moms love him. I liked book Maddie but find her to be OTT in the tv series and borerline insufferable, a grown up version of Tracey Flick. In the novel, she is portrayed as gossipy and a busy body but ultimately lovable with a heart of gold. She's extremely extroverted and wears her heart on her sleeve, which sometimes gets her into trouble, but she's not this tightly wound creature constantly sniping at and exploding on the people around her. I'm surprised the writers went in this direction with the character. She's so unlike able.

Celeste is basically the same so far.

NP. I haven't read the book, but the bold is how I see.Madeline's character on the show. After the most recent episode, I was thinking I'd like to have a friend like her! I think her character is very warm and supportive and quite flawed and interesting.

On another topic, I don't understand the posts saying that there's no affair between Madeline and theater guy. The last episode made it clear that they had had . . . Something a year ago that was unresolved.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a big change that won't spoil anything (and I could have forgotten it from the book) but I think the entire Avenue Q storyline is a David Kelley creation. Smaller things, I think Madeline and Ed also had a son. I thought Jane's encounter with Ziggy's dad was different but don't want to detail that because I see that that might be affecting other storylines later on. Also Jane's parents played a big(ger) role in her and ziggys lives.

Madeline and ED do not have a son in the book. Just Chloe.

Did you actually read the book? They do have an older son and that is actually how Maddeline knows Renata and where their issues stem from (interactions with that son's peer group).

Maddeline and Ed are both a lot happier, sunnier, and more laid back in the book. There is no real beef between Ed and Nathan, no affair, no Ave Q storyline. Madeline herself is much more relaxed and bubblier. Ed is a personable, fun surfer guy. All the other moms love him. I liked book Maddie but find her to be OTT in the tv series and borerline insufferable, a grown up version of Tracey Flick. In the novel, she is portrayed as gossipy and a busy body but ultimately lovable with a heart of gold. She's extremely extroverted and wears her heart on her sleeve, which sometimes gets her into trouble, but she's not this tightly wound creature constantly sniping at and exploding on the people around her. I'm surprised the writers went in this direction with the character. She's so unlike able.

Celeste is basically the same so far.

NP. I haven't read the book, but the bold is how I see.Madeline's character on the show. After the most recent episode, I was thinking I'd like to have a friend like her! I think her character is very warm and supportive and quite flawed and interesting.

On another topic, I don't understand the posts saying that there's no affair between Madeline and theater guy. The last episode made it clear that they had had . . . Something a year ago that was unresolved.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a big change that won't spoil anything (and I could have forgotten it from the book) but I think the entire Avenue Q storyline is a David Kelley creation. Smaller things, I think Madeline and Ed also had a son. I thought Jane's encounter with Ziggy's dad was different but don't want to detail that because I see that that might be affecting other storylines later on. Also Jane's parents played a big(ger) role in her and ziggys lives.

Madeline and ED do not have a son in the book. Just Chloe.

Did you actually read the book? They do have an older son and that is actually how Maddeline knows Renata and where their issues stem from (interactions with that son's peer group).

Maddeline and Ed are both a lot happier, sunnier, and more laid back in the book. There is no real beef between Ed and Nathan, no affair, no Ave Q storyline. Madeline herself is much more relaxed and bubblier. Ed is a personable, fun surfer guy. All the other moms love him. I liked book Maddie but find her to be OTT in the tv series and borerline insufferable, a grown up version of Tracey Flick. In the novel, she is portrayed as gossipy and a busy body but ultimately lovable with a heart of gold. She's extremely extroverted and wears her heart on her sleeve, which sometimes gets her into trouble, but she's not this tightly wound creature constantly sniping at and exploding on the people around her. I'm surprised the writers went in this direction with the character. She's so unlike able.

Celeste is basically the same so far.

Hmm. I agree with you about the book version of Madeline, but I think it's one of those things that had to happen in a condensed version of the story. She was lovable and well-liked, which is why it was surprising to people that she lost her sh*t about seemingly inconsequential things. A girls' girl who nevertheless couldn't manage to get along with her own daughter or her ex-husband's new wife, though her (Maddie's) life was enviable in so many other ways. And those things bugged her more than anyone else and always made her feel like she still had to control and fix something.

Also, Celeste took an immediate liking to Jane in the book and they spent more time together one-on-one. The big breakaway from Perry wasn't with her career, it was a plan to actually leave him and steps taken to do it.

Please don't give book details that might be spoilers for the HBO series. We don't know how HBO go, but I'd hate to have details ruined for those lucky ones coming to this story for the first time.

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Anonymous wrote:My 9 year old likes the song American Pie because its about Pie. The White Rabbit thing is probably to make us all worried that Ziggy is crazy like his dad (but the psychologist put that to rest).

No- American Pie isn't about pie. You're joking, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Just watched Episode 4. omg OMG!!! This show gets better and better. And it was great to start with!

Can we discuss Annabella for a moment? It's obvious to me that poor Ziggy has nothing to do with what's going on with her, right? For a moment I wondered if she was maybe doing it to herself but then realized that was highly unlikely especially given the bite mark on her shoulder which was revealed in the previews for next week.

That reminds me, Laura Dern is another one who does such a great job with her character. All the seething that goes on just under the surface seems genuine in a almost creepy way. And their crazy, modern museum-looking house is so perfect.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a big change that won't spoil anything (and I could have forgotten it from the book) but I think the entire Avenue Q storyline is a David Kelley creation. Smaller things, I think Madeline and Ed also had a son. I thought Jane's encounter with Ziggy's dad was different but don't want to detail that because I see that that might be affecting other storylines later on. Also Jane's parents played a big(ger) role in her and ziggys lives.

Madeline and ED do not have a son in the book. Just Chloe.

Did you actually read the book? They do have an older son and that is actually how Maddeline knows Renata and where their issues stem from (interactions with that son's peer group).

Maddeline and Ed are both a lot happier, sunnier, and more laid back in the book. There is no real beef between Ed and Nathan, no affair, no Ave Q storyline. Madeline herself is much more relaxed and bubblier. Ed is a personable, fun surfer guy. All the other moms love him. I liked book Maddie but find her to be OTT in the tv series and borerline insufferable, a grown up version of Tracey Flick. In the novel, she is portrayed as gossipy and a busy body but ultimately lovable with a heart of gold. She's extremely extroverted and wears her heart on her sleeve, which sometimes gets her into trouble, but she's not this tightly wound creature constantly sniping at and exploding on the people around her. I'm surprised the writers went in this direction with the character. She's so unlike able.

Celeste is basically the same so far.

Hmm. I agree with you about the book version of Madeline, but I think it's one of those things that had to happen in a condensed version of the story. She was lovable and well-liked, which is why it was surprising to people that she lost her sh*t about seemingly inconsequential things. A girls' girl who nevertheless couldn't manage to get along with her own daughter or her ex-husband's new wife, though her (Maddie's) life was enviable in so many other ways. And those things bugged her more than anyone else and always made her feel like she still had to control and fix something.

Also, Celeste took an immediate liking to Jane in the book and they spent more time together one-on-one. The big breakaway from Perry wasn't with her career, it was a plan to actually leave him and steps taken to do it.

Please don't give book details that might be spoilers for the HBO series. We don't know how HBO go, but I'd hate to have details ruined for those lucky ones coming to this story for the first time.

Anonymous wrote:Didn't the first episode have Bonnie signing a petition to ban Avenue Q? That set up early animosity between Bonnie and Madeline that wasn't in the book. I think all the added character conflict keeps everyone a suspect, which the book didn't really do.