Anonymous
01/25/2017 16:09
Subject: Fed Hiring Freeze
Anonymous wrote:The Office of Management and Budget stated that if someone was offered a job on or before Jan. 22 and have documentation showing a start date of Feb. 22 or earlier should report to work.
I'll be shocked if any agency actually abides by this. I'm still waiting to see what path DHS takes.
Anonymous
01/25/2017 16:08
Subject: Re:Fed Hiring Freeze
"Workers who were offered a job on or before Jan. 22 and have documentation showing a start date of Feb. 22 or earlier should report to work, according to the memo sent by OMB acting director Mark Sandy".
That's the thing, though. Many of us have accepted TOs but not been given start dates. Mine would have been mid-January, but I hadn't gotten the phone call from HR nailing that down yet. So, I guess I'm screwed? Or could the offer be honored after the freeze is lifted?
Anonymous
01/25/2017 15:47
Subject: Fed Hiring Freeze
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone with the Board of Veterans Appeals heard anything? Was supposed to start on the 6th and despite various attempts got no information. I, too, gave my job 2 week notice and will be out of a job on the 1st.
Why would you do this? Not to pile on, but EVERYONE knew this was going to happen.
To answer your question: because I was told on December 30th it will take a week for all paper work to be ready blah blah, on the 6th I got a start date and it did not occur to me that a freeze would mean I could not enter on duty. Specifically hiring official said that if hiring is in the works a freeze won't block it. Now obviously what he said isn't binding and hence I am asking if anyone here heard anything.
So far I have seen reports that DHS is good to go for now.
IRS sent emails telling those with start date not to report.
And to comment on your comment, if you have nothing to say, no one needs your input.
NP. It didn't occur to you that a freeze might mean you couldn't start? This was all over the news as a very distinct possibility. I am surprised that your HR was so cavalier since even our HR (which is usually glacially slow and generally worthless) was doing everything they could to get people in ahead of time. But at the end of the day, s/he is not the one out of the job and can go back to being generally incompetent. You really should have taken more ownership of your own situation and done even a modicum of research which would have revealed you should have gotten on board already.
And, so you don't accuse me of giving no news, if you were at my agency, the assumption is that you would be SOL as they are not likely bringing most people in, but it is not set in stone at this point.
My question was specific to Board of Veteran Appeals, if that's not your department, I do not care for your "news". As aforementioned, some departments already sent emails telling people with EODs that they're good to go, others notified that they can't start, and some were told they do not have an answer yet.
If you're bored at work, play candy crush, no need to comment on posts just for the sake of commenting.
I am a little bored at work. I have a cushy federal job like the one you just pissed away. And information how other agencies and departments are handling the same issue is relevant to what is likely to happen with your (former?) position, even if there may be some variation in approaches.
Well let's hope douchebags like you are the ones Trump is gonna clean out of the federal gov.
Well said my friend, let's hope that will be the good thing coming out of the freeze.
Anonymous
01/25/2017 15:26
Subject: Fed Hiring Freeze
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone with the Board of Veterans Appeals heard anything? Was supposed to start on the 6th and despite various attempts got no information. I, too, gave my job 2 week notice and will be out of a job on the 1st.
Why would you do this? Not to pile on, but EVERYONE knew this was going to happen.
To answer your question: because I was told on December 30th it will take a week for all paper work to be ready blah blah, on the 6th I got a start date and it did not occur to me that a freeze would mean I could not enter on duty. Specifically hiring official said that if hiring is in the works a freeze won't block it. Now obviously what he said isn't binding and hence I am asking if anyone here heard anything.
So far I have seen reports that DHS is good to go for now.
IRS sent emails telling those with start date not to report.
And to comment on your comment, if you have nothing to say, no one needs your input.
NP. It didn't occur to you that a freeze might mean you couldn't start? This was all over the news as a very distinct possibility. I am surprised that your HR was so cavalier since even our HR (which is usually glacially slow and generally worthless) was doing everything they could to get people in ahead of time. But at the end of the day, s/he is not the one out of the job and can go back to being generally incompetent. You really should have taken more ownership of your own situation and done even a modicum of research which would have revealed you should have gotten on board already.
And, so you don't accuse me of giving no news, if you were at my agency, the assumption is that you would be SOL as they are not likely bringing most people in, but it is not set in stone at this point.
My question was specific to Board of Veteran Appeals, if that's not your department, I do not care for your "news". As aforementioned, some departments already sent emails telling people with EODs that they're good to go, others notified that they can't start, and some were told they do not have an answer yet.
If you're bored at work, play candy crush, no need to comment on posts just for the sake of commenting.
I am a little bored at work. I have a cushy federal job like the one you just pissed away. And information how other agencies and departments are handling the same issue is relevant to what is likely to happen with your (former?) position, even if there may be some variation in approaches.
Well let's hope douchebags like you are the ones Trump is gonna clean out of the federal gov.
Would you rather have PP who didn't think about how a freeze would impact a job offer working for the Feds? That doesn't exactly instill confidence.
I would rather have people who work and don't get paid for commenting on forums and trolling others for fun.
Anonymous
01/25/2017 15:19
Subject: Fed Hiring Freeze
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone with the Board of Veterans Appeals heard anything? Was supposed to start on the 6th and despite various attempts got no information. I, too, gave my job 2 week notice and will be out of a job on the 1st.
Why would you do this? Not to pile on, but EVERYONE knew this was going to happen.
To answer your question: because I was told on December 30th it will take a week for all paper work to be ready blah blah, on the 6th I got a start date and it did not occur to me that a freeze would mean I could not enter on duty. Specifically hiring official said that if hiring is in the works a freeze won't block it. Now obviously what he said isn't binding and hence I am asking if anyone here heard anything.
So far I have seen reports that DHS is good to go for now.
IRS sent emails telling those with start date not to report.
And to comment on your comment, if you have nothing to say, no one needs your input.
NP. It didn't occur to you that a freeze might mean you couldn't start? This was all over the news as a very distinct possibility. I am surprised that your HR was so cavalier since even our HR (which is usually glacially slow and generally worthless) was doing everything they could to get people in ahead of time. But at the end of the day, s/he is not the one out of the job and can go back to being generally incompetent. You really should have taken more ownership of your own situation and done even a modicum of research which would have revealed you should have gotten on board already.
And, so you don't accuse me of giving no news, if you were at my agency, the assumption is that you would be SOL as they are not likely bringing most people in, but it is not set in stone at this point.
My question was specific to Board of Veteran Appeals, if that's not your department, I do not care for your "news". As aforementioned, some departments already sent emails telling people with EODs that they're good to go, others notified that they can't start, and some were told they do not have an answer yet.
If you're bored at work, play candy crush, no need to comment on posts just for the sake of commenting.
I am a little bored at work. I have a cushy federal job like the one you just pissed away. And information how other agencies and departments are handling the same issue is relevant to what is likely to happen with your (former?) position, even if there may be some variation in approaches.
Well let's hope douchebags like you are the ones Trump is gonna clean out of the federal gov.
Would you rather have PP who didn't think about how a freeze would impact a job offer working for the Feds? That doesn't exactly instill confidence.
Yes. Without question.
Anonymous
01/25/2017 15:15
Subject: Fed Hiring Freeze
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone with the Board of Veterans Appeals heard anything? Was supposed to start on the 6th and despite various attempts got no information. I, too, gave my job 2 week notice and will be out of a job on the 1st.
Why would you do this? Not to pile on, but EVERYONE knew this was going to happen.
To answer your question: because I was told on December 30th it will take a week for all paper work to be ready blah blah, on the 6th I got a start date and it did not occur to me that a freeze would mean I could not enter on duty. Specifically hiring official said that if hiring is in the works a freeze won't block it. Now obviously what he said isn't binding and hence I am asking if anyone here heard anything.
So far I have seen reports that DHS is good to go for now.
IRS sent emails telling those with start date not to report.
And to comment on your comment, if you have nothing to say, no one needs your input.
NP. It didn't occur to you that a freeze might mean you couldn't start? This was all over the news as a very distinct possibility. I am surprised that your HR was so cavalier since even our HR (which is usually glacially slow and generally worthless) was doing everything they could to get people in ahead of time. But at the end of the day, s/he is not the one out of the job and can go back to being generally incompetent. You really should have taken more ownership of your own situation and done even a modicum of research which would have revealed you should have gotten on board already.
And, so you don't accuse me of giving no news, if you were at my agency, the assumption is that you would be SOL as they are not likely bringing most people in, but it is not set in stone at this point.
My question was specific to Board of Veteran Appeals, if that's not your department, I do not care for your "news". As aforementioned, some departments already sent emails telling people with EODs that they're good to go, others notified that they can't start, and some were told they do not have an answer yet.
If you're bored at work, play candy crush, no need to comment on posts just for the sake of commenting.
I am a little bored at work. I have a cushy federal job like the one you just pissed away. And information how other agencies and departments are handling the same issue is relevant to what is likely to happen with your (former?) position, even if there may be some variation in approaches.
Well let's hope douchebags like you are the ones Trump is gonna clean out of the federal gov.
Would you rather have PP who didn't think about how a freeze would impact a job offer working for the Feds? That doesn't exactly instill confidence.
Anonymous
01/25/2017 15:00
Subject: Re:Fed Hiring Freeze
Anonymous wrote:Source of OMB Guidance on Hiring freeze
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/office-of-management-budget-hiring-freeze-guidelines-234173
I wonder why a start date of Feb. 22 or early was chosen. Just because it is a month after the date in the exec. order?
According to the article, the memo says they are instructed to consider “merit system principles, essential mission priorities, and current agency resources and funding levels.”
What does it mean to consider "merit system principles"? And aren't positions that agency's are actively recruiting for already fully funded at least through the current fiscal year? Under this guidance, it seems like if an agency is rescinding an offer (without an established start date on or before Feb. 22) they would be admitting that job isn't important. Who would admit that? Or perhaps that is point - they want written justification for every position that is trying to be filled.
Anonymous
01/25/2017 14:56
Subject: Re:Fed Hiring Freeze
Anonymous wrote:On the ChiefHRO website (https://chiefhro.com/2017/01/24/hiring-freeze-some-answers-some-questions/), someone asked:
"I accepted a TO on the 18th, and submitted background investigation paperwork. I had my finger prints taken early morning on the 23rd. I assume that my position is frozen and that I’m in limbo. However, what are the chances that once the freeze is lifted, my TO will still be honored?"
And his answer was:
"It depends on the job and how it stacks up in the agency’s priorities. In past freezes, most job offers have been honored either as exemptions or following the freeze."
So, maybe good news for those of us with TOs (especially people who already gave notice at current jobs)? Just sit tight until the thaw hits. Any thoughts?
"Workers who were offered a job on or before Jan. 22 and have documentation showing a start date of Feb. 22 or earlier should report to work, according to the memo sent by OMB acting director Mark Sandy".
Anonymous
01/25/2017 14:54
Subject: Re:Fed Hiring Freeze
On the ChiefHRO website (https://chiefhro.com/2017/01/24/hiring-freeze-some-answers-some-questions/), someone asked:
"I accepted a TO on the 18th, and submitted background investigation paperwork. I had my finger prints taken early morning on the 23rd. I assume that my position is frozen and that I’m in limbo. However, what are the chances that once the freeze is lifted, my TO will still be honored?"
And his answer was:
"It depends on the job and how it stacks up in the agency’s priorities. In past freezes, most job offers have been honored either as exemptions or following the freeze."
So, maybe good news for those of us with TOs (especially people who already gave notice at current jobs)? Just sit tight until the thaw hits. Any thoughts?
"I accepted a TO on the 18th, and submitted background investigation paperwork. I had my finger prints taken early morning on the 23rd. I assume that my position is frozen and that I’m in limbo. However, what are the chances that once the freeze is lifted, my TO will still be honored?"
And his answer was:
"It depends on the job and how it stacks up in the agency’s priorities. In past freezes, most job offers have been honored either as exemptions or following the freeze."
So, maybe good news for those of us with TOs (especially people who already gave notice at current jobs)? Just sit tight until the thaw hits. Any thoughts?
Anonymous
01/25/2017 14:45
Subject: Fed Hiring Freeze
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone with the Board of Veterans Appeals heard anything? Was supposed to start on the 6th and despite various attempts got no information. I, too, gave my job 2 week notice and will be out of a job on the 1st.
Why would you do this? Not to pile on, but EVERYONE knew this was going to happen.
To answer your question: because I was told on December 30th it will take a week for all paper work to be ready blah blah, on the 6th I got a start date and it did not occur to me that a freeze would mean I could not enter on duty. Specifically hiring official said that if hiring is in the works a freeze won't block it. Now obviously what he said isn't binding and hence I am asking if anyone here heard anything.
So far I have seen reports that DHS is good to go for now.
IRS sent emails telling those with start date not to report.
And to comment on your comment, if you have nothing to say, no one needs your input.
NP. It didn't occur to you that a freeze might mean you couldn't start? This was all over the news as a very distinct possibility. I am surprised that your HR was so cavalier since even our HR (which is usually glacially slow and generally worthless) was doing everything they could to get people in ahead of time. But at the end of the day, s/he is not the one out of the job and can go back to being generally incompetent. You really should have taken more ownership of your own situation and done even a modicum of research which would have revealed you should have gotten on board already.
And, so you don't accuse me of giving no news, if you were at my agency, the assumption is that you would be SOL as they are not likely bringing most people in, but it is not set in stone at this point.
My question was specific to Board of Veteran Appeals, if that's not your department, I do not care for your "news". As aforementioned, some departments already sent emails telling people with EODs that they're good to go, others notified that they can't start, and some were told they do not have an answer yet.
If you're bored at work, play candy crush, no need to comment on posts just for the sake of commenting.
I am a little bored at work. I have a cushy federal job like the one you just pissed away. And information how other agencies and departments are handling the same issue is relevant to what is likely to happen with your (former?) position, even if there may be some variation in approaches.
Well let's hope douchebags like you are the ones Trump is gonna clean out of the federal gov.
Anonymous
01/25/2017 14:37
Subject: Fed Hiring Freeze
Mark Sandy, the acting director of OMB, sent out a memo within the last hour
Anonymous
01/25/2017 14:36
Subject: Re:Fed Hiring Freeze
Source of OMB Guidance on Hiring freeze
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/office-of-management-budget-hiring-freeze-guidelines-234173
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/office-of-management-budget-hiring-freeze-guidelines-234173
Anonymous
01/25/2017 14:35
Subject: Fed Hiring Freeze
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone with the Board of Veterans Appeals heard anything? Was supposed to start on the 6th and despite various attempts got no information. I, too, gave my job 2 week notice and will be out of a job on the 1st.
Why would you do this? Not to pile on, but EVERYONE knew this was going to happen.
To answer your question: because I was told on December 30th it will take a week for all paper work to be ready blah blah, on the 6th I got a start date and it did not occur to me that a freeze would mean I could not enter on duty. Specifically hiring official said that if hiring is in the works a freeze won't block it. Now obviously what he said isn't binding and hence I am asking if anyone here heard anything.
So far I have seen reports that DHS is good to go for now.
IRS sent emails telling those with start date not to report.
And to comment on your comment, if you have nothing to say, no one needs your input.
NP. It didn't occur to you that a freeze might mean you couldn't start? This was all over the news as a very distinct possibility. I am surprised that your HR was so cavalier since even our HR (which is usually glacially slow and generally worthless) was doing everything they could to get people in ahead of time. But at the end of the day, s/he is not the one out of the job and can go back to being generally incompetent. You really should have taken more ownership of your own situation and done even a modicum of research which would have revealed you should have gotten on board already.
And, so you don't accuse me of giving no news, if you were at my agency, the assumption is that you would be SOL as they are not likely bringing most people in, but it is not set in stone at this point.
My question was specific to Board of Veteran Appeals, if that's not your department, I do not care for your "news". As aforementioned, some departments already sent emails telling people with EODs that they're good to go, others notified that they can't start, and some were told they do not have an answer yet.
If you're bored at work, play candy crush, no need to comment on posts just for the sake of commenting.
I am a little bored at work. I have a cushy federal job like the one you just pissed away. And information how other agencies and departments are handling the same issue is relevant to what is likely to happen with your (former?) position, even if there may be some variation in approaches.
Anonymous
01/25/2017 14:35
Subject: Re:Fed Hiring Freeze
Source?
Anonymous
01/25/2017 14:34
Subject: Fed Hiring Freeze
The Office of Management and Budget stated that if someone was offered a job on or before Jan. 22 and have documentation showing a start date of Feb. 22 or earlier should report to work.