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Anonymous wrote:Title says it all- there's a mom who has a napping baby in the car while she picks up her kid from daycare. She has to enter the building, go around the corner, sign out the kid, and get back to the car. Car is running. There isn't normally space right out front-but it's not a far walk. I timed it-child is unaccompanied in the car for about two minutes. Say something? Or MYOB.

So quick to judge: this is clearly an Emanuel Lewis situation. That 'kid' is her 32-year-old husband. I know them personally - I also go to this daycare. I met them when I tried to rescue the man from crossing the street unattended. So embarrassing for me. You're welcome for saving you the same shame!

I'm a bit ashamed to admit how hard I laughed at this so will blame it on being really tired.

Np. I'm laughing so hard my shoulders are shaking. Comic genius.

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Anonymous wrote:Title says it all- there's a mom who has a napping baby in the car while she picks up her kid from daycare. She has to enter the building, go around the corner, sign out the kid, and get back to the car. Car is running. There isn't normally space right out front-but it's not a far walk. I timed it-child is unaccompanied in the car for about two minutes. Say something? Or MYOB.

So quick to judge: this is clearly an Emanuel Lewis situation. That 'kid' is her 32-year-old husband. I know them personally - I also go to this daycare. I met them when I tried to rescue the man from crossing the street unattended. So embarrassing for me. You're welcome for saving you the same shame!

I'm a bit ashamed to admit how hard I laughed at this so will blame it on being really tired.

I'm tired I guess because I don't get the reference.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like that list is a joke. It's a joke, right? Of course it takes you that long if you are a moron with saying goodbye issues.

I'm in and out. Teachers hate moms like you.

eh, the preschools generally want parents to be in line with their kids and ready for drop off when the classroom door opens. It gets all of the kids started at the same time.

That has nothing to do with "pick flowers, wave goodbye at window, potty child (this happens before you leave the home), go back in for another hug" etc. This Mom may have nothing better to do with her day, but most people enjoy the process being as seamless and quick as possible. OP's person was able to do it in 2 minutes. I can do it in under 5.

Good for you. I'm saying that simply walking my kid in with the crowd of other kids/parents walking into the school, standing in line at the door and waiting for it to open, giving a quick hug and then walking out and back to the car is more of a 10 minute process.

Now if I waited and zoomed in with my kid as a straggler...yeah, I could do it much quicker but I don't think that the teachers appreciate that too much.

Do you do the same ridiculous 20 step process at pick up? Because the OP is about pick up, not your child having a poop and seven special hugs at drop off.

I'm not the one with the long list. I explained exactly how drop off works. Pick up would mean getting to the school, standing in line for my child, getting my child from the classroom, walking back out through a crowd of other parents/kids, possibly having a quick chat with other parents/kids on the way out. Again, this is not a 2 minute process. It is closer to 10 minutes.

You could be speedier by always being a bit on the late side and being one of the last parents there to pick up your kid.

Not all centers have a finite start and end time, more of a window, so it would be very unusual for all parents to arrive at the same time.

Then if this is the case and parents are picking up at staggered times throughout the day then we are also talking about a relatively empty parking lot at any given time and a baby alone inside a car with the engine running...no one around. Pick up is probably quicker but if a carjacker is casing the lot for an opportunity...there would be no one around to see him or stop him.

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Anonymous wrote:Title says it all- there's a mom who has a napping baby in the car while she picks up her kid from daycare. She has to enter the building, go around the corner, sign out the kid, and get back to the car. Car is running. There isn't normally space right out front-but it's not a far walk. I timed it-child is unaccompanied in the car for about two minutes. Say something? Or MYOB.

So quick to judge: this is clearly an Emanuel Lewis situation. That 'kid' is her 32-year-old husband. I know them personally - I also go to this daycare. I met them when I tried to rescue the man from crossing the street unattended. So embarrassing for me. You're welcome for saving you the same shame!

I'm a bit ashamed to admit how hard I laughed at this so will blame it on being really tired.

Anonymous wrote:Title says it all- there's a mom who has a napping baby in the car while she picks up her kid from daycare. She has to enter the building, go around the corner, sign out the kid, and get back to the car. Car is running. There isn't normally space right out front-but it's not a far walk. I timed it-child is unaccompanied in the car for about two minutes. Say something? Or MYOB.

So quick to judge: this is clearly an Emanuel Lewis situation. That 'kid' is her 32-year-old husband. I know them personally - I also go to this daycare. I met them when I tried to rescue the man from crossing the street unattended. So embarrassing for me. You're welcome for saving you the same shame!

If the preschool or daycare has the policy of no unattended children left in cars in the parking lot....then that is enough.

Their lot, their rules.

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Anonymous wrote:What I would do is the decide whether I felt I needed to say something to the center director, or my mind my business. I'm a grown adult and feel comfortable in my own decision-making in this situation. What I wouldn't do is create a post on DCUM for advice. Because IMO, the only reason for this kind of post is to shame the mom who left the kid in the car. We moms need to help each other instead of competing and judging.

It's better than gossiping about it in the preschool. Especially if it turns out that she was WRONG. Maybe there was a grown up or responsible older kid in the car that the Op didn't see. Maybe another mom was watching the vehicle from her car.

It's better to see a concern like this voiced on an anonymous thread than whispers and gossip in the halls of a preschool...

I don't think either one is acceptable, actually.

Why? The preschool hasn't been named, the parent has been named, the child hasn't been named. We don't even know what state this was in. Talking about something that happens with a fairly regular frequency at just about any preschool out there is not personal. It's a parenting topic.

Strange that you appear to think this should all be hush, hush and never discussed. WTH?

I never said anything about hush hush. I just think it's sort of odd that this is such a big intrigue. Tell or MYOB, and move on.

Hysterical parents dont like logic or facts, sorry PP. I agree with you 100%

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Anonymous wrote:I'll be sure to find this thread and leave a "Bump" comment the next time a child is snatched from a car, or a child suffocates inside a car. And trust me, there will be a next time. So sad.

What about the next time a child is killed in a parking lot? En route to or from where the parent's car is parked on the street & the school/store/post office/drycleaners?

If the parents say they did everything they could to prevent it, that's one thing. Taking a risk like this--against the advice of doctors, teachers, police, principals, auto manufacturers, car seat manufacturers--that means you are irresponsible.

But actual facts show the opposite -- unless the conditions are such that the car will get dangerously hot during this time, taking a child out of the car to cross a parking lot or do a quick errand puts the child at a far greater risk for death, harm, or injury than leaving a child in the car for a few minutes under similiar circumstances does. So if your definition of irresponsible parenting includes putting one's child at increased risk for harm, the actions of a parent who takes his or her child out of the car in this situation are objectively more irresponsible than those of a parent who leaves his or child in the car.

The strong likelihood of the individuals, groups & organizations you referenced all advising a parent against leaving his or her child in the cars in the above situation does not change the fact that, when compared to getting the child out of the car & crossing a parking lot with him or her, this is the statistically safer choice. That so many "expert" recommendations &, in some cases, even laws caution against leaving babies & young children unattended in cars under any circumstances is indicative not of how inherently dangerous it is to do so but how widespread the inability ( or perhaps ,in some cases, unwillingness) to properly access risk based on facts rather than emotions has become in the age of social media & 24/7 news cycles .

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Anonymous wrote:Drug addicts seeking a quick buck really aren't in the baby stealing business. To compare a laptop to a baby is silly. Also, was the laptop theft in a daycare/prescchool parking lot? Because that would be CRAZY based upon how many parents are constantly walking in/out.

You sound a little crazy yourself. Go back and read this justification for leaving a baby unattended in a public place. I'd rather leave my kid all the way at home in his/her crib.

Now THAT would be smart. Because the most dangerous part of all of this is driving. So you would leave your baby at home in their crib and risk getting into an accident/caught in traffic etc with an unattended baby.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like that list is a joke. It's a joke, right? Of course it takes you that long if you are a moron with saying goodbye issues.

I'm in and out. Teachers hate moms like you.

eh, the preschools generally want parents to be in line with their kids and ready for drop off when the classroom door opens. It gets all of the kids started at the same time.

That has nothing to do with "pick flowers, wave goodbye at window, potty child (this happens before you leave the home), go back in for another hug" etc. This Mom may have nothing better to do with her day, but most people enjoy the process being as seamless and quick as possible. OP's person was able to do it in 2 minutes. I can do it in under 5.

Good for you. I'm saying that simply walking my kid in with the crowd of other kids/parents walking into the school, standing in line at the door and waiting for it to open, giving a quick hug and then walking out and back to the car is more of a 10 minute process.

Now if I waited and zoomed in with my kid as a straggler...yeah, I could do it much quicker but I don't think that the teachers appreciate that too much.

Do you do the same ridiculous 20 step process at pick up? Because the OP is about pick up, not your child having a poop and seven special hugs at drop off.

I'm not the one with the long list. I explained exactly how drop off works. Pick up would mean getting to the school, standing in line for my child, getting my child from the classroom, walking back out through a crowd of other parents/kids, possibly having a quick chat with other parents/kids on the way out. Again, this is not a 2 minute process. It is closer to 10 minutes.

You could be speedier by always being a bit on the late side and being one of the last parents there to pick up your kid.

Yes, you could. And if you were an exhausted mom with a newborn who was sleeping in the middle of winter or bad weather, that is likely EXACTLY what you would do, don't you think?

I had a 2 1/2 year old and a newborn (fall/winter time). I really didn't deviate from my regular schedule. I stood in line for a few minutes before the classroom door opened w/baby in my arms while I picked up my 2 year old. I don't know what you want me to say, but that is the way that *I* did it and most of the other moms did it (even those with newborns).

Anonymous wrote:The baby isn't unattended in a public place!

The baby is locked in a car sleeping in a preschool parking lot!

A car is not a private place.

The baby isn't unattended in a public place!

The baby is locked in a car sleeping in a preschool parking lot!

Anonymous wrote:Drug addicts seeking a quick buck really aren't in the baby stealing business. To compare a laptop to a baby is silly. Also, was the laptop theft in a daycare/prescchool parking lot? Because that would be CRAZY based upon how many parents are constantly walking in/out.

You sound a little crazy yourself. Go back and read this justification for leaving a baby unattended in a public place. I'd rather leave my kid all the way at home in his/her crib.

Drug addicts seeking a quick buck really aren't in the baby stealing business. To compare a laptop to a baby is silly. Also, was the laptop theft in a daycare/prescchool parking lot? Because that would be CRAZY based upon how many parents are constantly walking in/out.