Anonymous
Post 09/10/2016 21:13     Subject: Re:Hillary just insults a quarter of all Americans

Anonymous wrote:What Hillary does not understand is what a Trump supporter is:

Many Trump supporters do not even like Trump. They just see him as the only way to prevent Hillary from winning the Presidency. That does not make them bigoted, racist, Islamaphobic, etc. It just makes them people who are concerned about HRC;s track record with the truth, with the law, and with national security. Her judgment on LIbya--and the treatment of the parents of the Benghazi fallen was extremely poor. Almost everything she touched at State was a mess. Hillary's answer to the economy is simply to raise taxes and the minimum wage. Sure, she says other things, but she wants to kill jobs in the private sector and expand government. Will Trump be any better? I don't know--but she has proven herself to be unqualified.


Puh-lease. If you put Hillary's record side by side with Trump's record, no sane person would conclude that Hillary is the more corrupt person with worse judgment. You can't just vote against someone. You are voting FOR something, and someone. You are voting FOR Donald Trump, not against Hillary Clinton. You are voting for someone who inherited millions of dollars and still perpetuated a scheme to con unsuspecting people out of their money. You are voting for someone who engaged in outright corruption by paying off an attorney general in order to avoid prosecution. You are voting for someone who used connections to the mafia to make money. You are voting for someone who has used the most vile and hateful language about almost every minority he can think of. You are voting for someone who indulges himself in every petty, narcissistic, angry encounter his cold heart desires and thinks of no one but himself. You are voting for someone who lies for no other reason than he feels like it. You are voting for someone who has refused to release his tax returns. You are voting for someone who has made no serious policy proposals and can't be bothered to write some details on his website. You are voting for someone who shows no judgment and no empathy.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2016 21:11     Subject: Re:Hillary just insults a quarter of all Americans

Anonymous wrote:What Hillary does not understand is what a Trump supporter is:

Many Trump supporters do not even like Trump. They just see him as the only way to prevent Hillary from winning the Presidency. That does not make them bigoted, racist, Islamaphobic, etc. It just makes them people who are concerned about HRC;s track record with the truth, with the law, and with national security. Her judgment on LIbya--and the treatment of the parents of the Benghazi fallen was extremely poor. Almost everything she touched at State was a mess. Hillary's answer to the economy is simply to raise taxes and the minimum wage. Sure, she says other things, but she wants to kill jobs in the private sector and expand government. Will Trump be any better? I don't know--but she has proven herself to be unqualified.


I agree wholeheartedly with the bolded comments.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2016 21:11     Subject: Re:Hillary just insults a quarter of all Americans

Anonymous wrote:What Hillary does not understand is what a Trump supporter is:

Many Trump supporters do not even like Trump. They just see him as the only way to prevent Hillary from winning the Presidency. That does not make them bigoted, racist, Islamaphobic, etc. It just makes them people who are concerned about HRC;s track record with the truth, with the law, and with national security. Her judgment on LIbya--and the treatment of the parents of the Benghazi fallen was extremely poor. Almost everything she touched at State was a mess. Hillary's answer to the economy is simply to raise taxes and the minimum wage. Sure, she says other things, but she wants to kill jobs in the private sector and expand government. Will Trump be any better? I don't know--but she has proven herself to be unqualified.

But she wasn't referring to that half of the basket. She was referring to the racist ones.

I really don't understand how the supporters that you post of think Trump will be any better. He has proven himself to not respect parents of fallen soldiers and POWs; he has shown that he doesn't walk the talk by hiring foreign workers and outsourcing his own clothing line. Heck, even his "Make America Great Again" shirts and caps are made in china. He's shafted people he's owed money to, and he questions why we can't use nuclear weapons. Seriously?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2016 21:10     Subject: Re:Hillary just insults a quarter of all Americans

Anonymous wrote:What Hillary does not understand is what a Trump supporter is:

Many Trump supporters do not even like Trump. They just see him as the only way to prevent Hillary from winning the Presidency. That does not make them bigoted, racist, Islamaphobic, etc. It just makes them people who are concerned about HRC;s track record with the truth, with the law, and with national security. Her judgment on LIbya--and the treatment of the parents of the Benghazi fallen was extremely poor. Almost everything she touched at State was a mess. Hillary's answer to the economy is simply to raise taxes and the minimum wage. Sure, she says other things, but she wants to kill jobs in the private sector and expand government. Will Trump be any better? I don't know--but she has proven herself to be unqualified.


Some of his supporters are how you describe. Others, the ones who cheer and yell "white power" at his rallies, do like Trump.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2016 21:07     Subject: Hillary just insults a quarter of all Americans

I wonder if her husband, serial rapist of Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick and several others is in the "Irredeemable Basket of Deplorables"??? Inquiring minds wanna know.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2016 21:03     Subject: Re:Hillary just insults a quarter of all Americans

What Hillary does not understand is what a Trump supporter is:

Many Trump supporters do not even like Trump. They just see him as the only way to prevent Hillary from winning the Presidency. That does not make them bigoted, racist, Islamaphobic, etc. It just makes them people who are concerned about HRC;s track record with the truth, with the law, and with national security. Her judgment on LIbya--and the treatment of the parents of the Benghazi fallen was extremely poor. Almost everything she touched at State was a mess. Hillary's answer to the economy is simply to raise taxes and the minimum wage. Sure, she says other things, but she wants to kill jobs in the private sector and expand government. Will Trump be any better? I don't know--but she has proven herself to be unqualified.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2016 20:43     Subject: Hillary just insults a quarter of all Americans

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Anonymous wrote:While maybe could have been stated better - what she is saying is spot on. Once you get out of the DC bubble - it is shocking to see the pairing of DT signs and confederate flags. This was Virginia (Front Royal-ish and Eastern Shore MD, Delaware) but I think pretty much a full half of his support comes from pretty deplorable people.





Actually, this would not bother me as much if it was the only thing my Trump supporter friends posted on facebook. The confederate flag/Trump combo is what they put on their cars.

The nasty comments about blacks and illegal immigrants (who I don't like much either, but I don't insult them) are what they say in person and even in their posts. Only the most absolutely racist of my relatives and friends talked this way about black and brown people before the campaign. Now, others are coming out the wood work. It's disturbing. And, they've turned what was already a somewhat racist symbol of the confederate flag (not everyone who used to fly it was racist) into a completely racist symbol. It's now even being adopted by racists in other countries: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Bulgarian-Neo-Nazis-wear-Confederate-Flags


Above the fold in the metro section of the WaPo is a story about a murder committed by a twice-deported illegal immigrant.


We need a yuuuuuge beautiful wall and a moat with fire-breathing alligators!!!! But what about other murderers? MAGA!!!
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2016 20:38     Subject: Hillary just insults a quarter of all Americans

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:While maybe could have been stated better - what she is saying is spot on. Once you get out of the DC bubble - it is shocking to see the pairing of DT signs and confederate flags. This was Virginia (Front Royal-ish and Eastern Shore MD, Delaware) but I think pretty much a full half of his support comes from pretty deplorable people.





Actually, this would not bother me as much if it was the only thing my Trump supporter friends posted on facebook. The confederate flag/Trump combo is what they put on their cars.

The nasty comments about blacks and illegal immigrants (who I don't like much either, but I don't insult them) are what they say in person and even in their posts. Only the most absolutely racist of my relatives and friends talked this way about black and brown people before the campaign. Now, others are coming out the wood work. It's disturbing. And, they've turned what was already a somewhat racist symbol of the confederate flag (not everyone who used to fly it was racist) into a completely racist symbol. It's now even being adopted by racists in other countries: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Bulgarian-Neo-Nazis-wear-Confederate-Flags


Above the fold in the metro section of the WaPo is a story about a murder committed by a twice-deported illegal immigrant.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2016 20:37     Subject: Hillary just insults a quarter of all Americans

Anonymous wrote:Terrible political moves seem to be all the rage. Just ask the Trump campaign.


Wow, that's so clever.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2016 20:36     Subject: Re:Hillary just insults a quarter of all Americans

Well, she expressed regret. No need to rationalize her comments any further.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2016 20:31     Subject: Hillary just insults a quarter of all Americans

Anonymous
Post 09/10/2016 20:28     Subject: Hillary just insults a quarter of all Americans

If you are not a xenophobe a racist a homophobe a sexist or bigot, then she didn't insult you. If you are, why should we need to spare your
Feelings?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2016 20:05     Subject: Hillary just insults a quarter of all Americans

Terrible political moves seem to be all the rage. Just ask the Trump campaign.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2016 20:00     Subject: Hillary just insults a quarter of all Americans

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Anonymous wrote:Trump has called women fat pigs and dogs, but it's a travesty for Clinton to say some of Trump's supporters are racists? Talk about a double standard!


You can argue all you want that it's okay to call half of Trumps supporters deplorable. The lack of respect for hard working people will hurt her with voters. Whether or not it's a great comment or completely justified, it shouldn't have come from a potential leader of our nation.


She did not disrespect any hard working Americans. She deplored the bigots. Now are you telling me a bigot who is hard working can't be deplored for being a bigot and appreciated for being a hard worker. These are different qualities and mutually exclusive. It's like saying racists shouldn't be called out because they are hard working. Come on now, already.


People have gone out of their way to say if you support Trump, you're a bigot. People will not hear your point. What they will hear is disrespect for half of Americans. Nice try, but this is an emotional issue, not logical. It makes her look very bad, very elitist, and playing the same divide and hate game Trump plays. I was hoping for better.


Bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

There are a LOT of bigots on both sides of the aisle. See it here and elsewhere all the time. Intolerance is a cancer in any society and it's continued growth in our nation is frightening.


You know, ordinarily I would agree with you. If this was an ordinary campaign, with Mitt Romney or Jeb or Paul Ryan, I would be like, yeah, that's right!

But this is not an ordinary year.

Trump is not a candidate that we should tolerate. He is a sexist, racist, xenophobic buffoon and a charlatan who lies constantly and who has dragged our political discourse down the toilet with the help of the media. I have no idea what is wrong with the people who would support someone like this. This is a massive failure on the part of our educational system.


Not tolerating Trump is fine. Broadly insulting citizens who have a different opinion than you is not fine. Its not fine from a trump, it's not fine from HRC. It's a bad political move from the candidate who was supposed to be a centrist alternative.


Again, and try to read slowly and carefully this time. Half of Trump supporters weren't being "insulted" for merely having a "different opinion." They were being called out as xenophobia, racists and bigots, which a quick visit to the comments section of many online forums will confirm beyond any doubt. Hell, Trump has given his explicit seal of approval to the "poorly educated." Additionally, calling someone who openly espouses bigoted views a "bigot" isn't an insult.


It doesn't matter that you think HRC excluded some Trump supporters from her insult. It's not what people will hear, even though you think it's technically okay, because it wasn't referring to ALL, just the real bigots, or half. People hear emotional messages, not logical. It's still a terrible political move.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2016 19:45     Subject: Hillary just insults a quarter of all Americans

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Trump has called women fat pigs and dogs, but it's a travesty for Clinton to say some of Trump's supporters are racists? Talk about a double standard!


You can argue all you want that it's okay to call half of Trumps supporters deplorable. The lack of respect for hard working people will hurt her with voters. Whether or not it's a great comment or completely justified, it shouldn't have come from a potential leader of our nation.


She did not disrespect any hard working Americans. She deplored the bigots. Now are you telling me a bigot who is hard working can't be deplored for being a bigot and appreciated for being a hard worker. These are different qualities and mutually exclusive. It's like saying racists shouldn't be called out because they are hard working. Come on now, already.


People have gone out of their way to say if you support Trump, you're a bigot. People will not hear your point. What they will hear is disrespect for half of Americans. Nice try, but this is an emotional issue, not logical. It makes her look very bad, very elitist, and playing the same divide and hate game Trump plays. I was hoping for better.


Bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

There are a LOT of bigots on both sides of the aisle. See it here and elsewhere all the time. Intolerance is a cancer in any society and it's continued growth in our nation is frightening.


You know, ordinarily I would agree with you. If this was an ordinary campaign, with Mitt Romney or Jeb or Paul Ryan, I would be like, yeah, that's right!

But this is not an ordinary year.

Trump is not a candidate that we should tolerate. He is a sexist, racist, xenophobic buffoon and a charlatan who lies constantly and who has dragged our political discourse down the toilet with the help of the media. I have no idea what is wrong with the people who would support someone like this. This is a massive failure on the part of our educational system.


Not tolerating Trump is fine. Broadly insulting citizens who have a different opinion than you is not fine. Its not fine from a trump, it's not fine from HRC. It's a bad political move from the candidate who was supposed to be a centrist alternative.


Again, and try to read slowly and carefully this time. Half of Trump supporters weren't being "insulted" for merely having a "different opinion." They were being called out as xenophobia, racists and bigots, which a quick visit to the comments section of many online forums will confirm beyond any doubt. Hell, Trump has given his explicit seal of approval to the "poorly educated." Additionally, calling someone who openly espouses bigoted views a "bigot" isn't an insult.