Anonymous
Post 07/06/2016 13:04     Subject: School residency cheaters investigated
It looks like Friday's article is about PTA board members who live in MD...rumor has it that the PTA president at at least one of the schools mentioned does.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2016 13:04     Subject: School residency cheaters investigated
It is the ancestral home - grandma or mom/dad keep their home in the city and all their grandkids use the address. Often the grandparents also watch the kids before and after school.

It is that simple and also that complicated to unravel. It is unfathomable to many newer residents who don't have extended family here.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2016 12:59     Subject: Re:School residency cheaters investigated
Anonymous wrote:Here's the second in the series. The brazenness of the residency fraud is unbelievable, including by persons who work for government agencies.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/05/rampant-fraud-means-even-govt-contractors-can-illegally-send-kids-to-dc-schools/


Wow, I guess this website is doing what DCUM complain about all the time quite shocking when you read it like this ...the question is will OSSE or DCPS do anything about the cases or schools mentioned. DCPS enrollment is some schools will drop, a lot of time it is not about the schools being better but about driver commuter convenience.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2016 12:35     Subject: School residency cheaters investigated
The article makes it sound like some schools, including Excel Academy, aren't requiring parents to offer proof of residency. It should be easy for OSSE to crack down on that.

It seems more complicated to catch people who live in MD but actually can show "proof" of DC residence. I mean, someone who lives in MD but keeps a valid DC driver's license AND either a utility bill or car registration at the DC residence on their driver's license. Seems like it would be hard to do this for years on end unless you are renting out your old residence in DC (so you might well keep, say, the water bill in your name) or have a relative/close friend living in your former DC residence.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2016 12:18     Subject: Re:School residency cheaters investigated
Here's the second in the series. The brazenness of the residency fraud is unbelievable, including by persons who work for government agencies.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/05/rampant-fraud-means-even-govt-contractors-can-illegally-send-kids-to-dc-schools/
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2016 12:12     Subject: School residency cheaters investigated
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's time to take this away from OSSE to investigate and hand it off to the feds and the US attorney to investigate and prosecute residency fraud. Some very public indictments for fraud and theft and services and civil suits for past due tuition should have at least some deterrent effect.


Um,. residency fraud is not within the parameters of the feds.


DCPS gets a ton of federal aid. Theft of services is basically misappropriating federal grant money intended for DC students, so yeah, it could be a subject of federal investigation. And, of course, the US Attorney is the local prosecutor with jurisdiction to enforce DC laws as well as federal ones. The point is, investigations need to be handed over to an aggressive investigator and enforcer, not the lackadaisical DC agency in charge of it now.


So does every public school system in the USA. Do you want the DOE to now begin investigating residency fraud throughout the country and forwarding to DOJ for prosecution. Really!!!!!!!!!!


This is the nation's capital, the feds are the local prosecutor for DC laws as well as federal, and in any event the federal government will step in where there is a local fraud and corruption problem and the local authorities seem unwilling or unable to do anything about it.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2016 12:09     Subject: School residency cheaters investigated
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's time to take this away from OSSE to investigate and hand it off to the feds and the US attorney to investigate and prosecute residency fraud. Some very public indictments for fraud and theft and services and civil suits for past due tuition should have at least some deterrent effect.


Um,. residency fraud is not within the parameters of the feds.


NP: Using a false address to commit a fraud and receiving US mail at that address in furtherance of the crime (DCPS/PCS do mail information including report cards to parents at the address of record), fraud across state lines, false claim of entitlement to federal funds, grants, etc. etc. Plenty of avenues to federal jurisdiction, if they chose to exercise it. And depending on how many people are in cahoots on a scheme, you might even be venturing into RICO territory.


It's time to kick some serious butt when it comes to residency cheating, including criminal penalties and restitution of the cost of tuition for the years that kids were fraudulently enrolled in DCPS or charters.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2016 12:01     Subject: School residency cheaters investigated
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's time to take this away from OSSE to investigate and hand it off to the feds and the US attorney to investigate and prosecute residency fraud. Some very public indictments for fraud and theft and services and civil suits for past due tuition should have at least some deterrent effect.


Um,. residency fraud is not within the parameters of the feds.


NP: Using a false address to commit a fraud and receiving US mail at that address in furtherance of the crime (DCPS/PCS do mail information including report cards to parents at the address of record), fraud across state lines, false claim of entitlement to federal funds, grants, etc. etc. Plenty of avenues to federal jurisdiction, if they chose to exercise it. And depending on how many people are in cahoots on a scheme, you might even be venturing into RICO territory.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2016 11:59     Subject: Re:School residency cheaters investigated
Anonymous wrote:
Not hard to show where you live. Come to my house. I'll show you my messy house, all my clothes, paperwork, ask the neighbors if I live here and so on.
Never seen people put up such a fuss and fight if they are not cheating.


This is how I feel. It's not hard to prove your residency. So report if you know of someone, and they can put to rest any confusion or questions. It shouldn't be a big deal to prove.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2016 11:52     Subject: School residency cheaters investigated
Anonymous wrote:So today's "article" from the DC publishes a child's face from a parent's facebook page.

That seems a bit over the line.


They now edited the child's face out of the picture. A bit late in the screen grab-era.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/05/rampant-fraud-means-even-govt-contractors-can-illegally-send-kids-to-dc-schools/
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2016 11:26     Subject: School residency cheaters investigated
They need their behinds kicked for this article, and I am anti-residency cheating.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2016 11:23     Subject: Re:School residency cheaters investigated
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Part 2: http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/05/rampant-fraud-means-even-govt-contractors-can-illegally-send-kids-to-dc-schools/

Damn. They blew up that lady's life.


Welp, she broke the law. Hundreds of others do too but she was in the wrong place at the wrong time.


The house is not in her name. Did they find anything linking that child to that house. Actually, if the woman lives in DC, I hope she finds a good lawyer to sue for slander.

The house I live in is not in my name. Doesn't mean I don't live here. The house I rent out is not in the renter's name, it's on mine and that doesn't mean he doesn't live there. What's your point? Oh, it's America, time to sue.
Not hard to show where you live. Come to my house. I'll show you my messy house, all my clothes, paperwork, ask the neighbors if I live here and so on.
Never seen people put up such a fuss and fight if they are not cheating.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2016 11:20     Subject: School residency cheaters investigated
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud is a huge problem in DC schools, and anyone who says otherwise has his head in the sand. It's a shame that the race-baiting Daily Caller is the outlet that decided to take this on. I am all in favor of cracking down on cheaters, but these articles are really gross.


+1


We can't really know if the articles are in fact racist or if the slant of the articles is racist. Demographic statistics would very likely show trends of non-white families doing this more often. White families in this area have higher incomes and more mobility - again stats support this - so they are not going to be eager to cheat to get into a low performing public or charter school nor are they likely to move to PG county. It's a valid point that if a neighborhood school with boundaries that have almost all white neighborhoods has virtually no white students, something is amiss.

In a way, I can't say I fault the parents. They took advantage of a loophole and lots of people everyday do that. It started because a couple people got away with it and then they told their friends and family that oversight was lax and yes it was a rule but nobody enforced it and they are right. It's not logical to expect the parents to care more about the rules than DCPS. If DCPS says, hey this rule doesn't matter and we don't care about it, then the parents aren't going to either.


Except the school in the report is not almost all white. If the reporter had said Janney or Key she might be more believable. As it is, it's a sloppy race-baiting piece of crap of the new form of journalism.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2016 11:17     Subject: School residency cheaters investigated
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ugh. this is all about right wingers creating a new "welfare mom" for their racist pleasure. But more importantly it is a slam on DC for using "taxpayer dollars" as a way for Congress to sadistically stick it to DC for being a democratic stronghold and black-run (see also: refusal to fund Metro). With the ultimate purpose of fighting DC statehood and the additional Ds it would bring to the House and Senate.


Ugh, Metro is not a DC entity. Why do idiots from all political and racial cloths not understand that Metro is not a DC entity. The headquarters is in DC, but Metro has offices in MD and VA as well. It is operated by a BOD made up of VA, DC, and MD politicians and appointees. In the recent years, the BOD expanded and the feds added their appointees.


Metro is not a DC entity, but its recent level of service and poor track record make it feel like one. Sometimes it seems like some of the old Marion Barry hacks who were fired by Mayors Williams and Fenty burrowed into Metro.


Yeah, and MD and VA had nothing to do with. Bias to the core you are PP.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2016 11:17     Subject: School residency cheaters investigated
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So today's "article" from the DC publishes a child's face from a parent's facebook page.

That seems a bit over the line.


It is, but it appears that they got it from social media, correct? So the parents already put their images for the web to use or misuse. I am sure all you need to do is a google image search for the name and you would stumble across the same images.


Agreed, but I do many media requests in my line work. I am always (and I mean always) asked if they can use my picture. This includes substandard blogs and other organizations.


Good point in terms of ethical journalism. Maybe even copyright issues with the image? http://smallbusiness.chron.com/need-someones-permission-pictures-facebook-66026.html

http://smallbusiness.chron.com/need-someones-permission-pictures-facebook-66026.html


If her facebook was public (looks to be gone now) then you can use the picture.