Anonymous
04/23/2016 21:39
Subject: Re:RIP Prince
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can we refrain from speculating on whether he was an addict or not until the autopsy results are back?
I always thought deep down he was shy. I watched a video today where he said he tried to be as flamboyant and loud as possible because he was bullied as a child. So, even if he did do drugs for mental problems, let's not judge him.
Nobody is judging him. But as a mother, I'm not sugarcoating the danger of addiction. It's not okay. And just because he was a famous musician doesn't mean we should ignore it. In fact, it presents a teachable moment.
Guess what? If you are in chronic pain, then it's best to undergo medical treatment as opposed to self-medicating with dangerous drugs that can kill you.
You can celebrate the musical genius and acknowledge this shortcomings...it's okay, people.
I was given a small dose of dilaudud when I was in the er a decade ago...that stuff is crazy! My husband asked what they gave me and was bedside himself as he monitored me until I came out of it. Never again.
Can you wait until the man is in the ground before you start trying to tear apart his reputation. He was a decent and private man. Show some dn respect for the dead.
?
First, I'm not saying this to anyone who knew him personally. I doubt his friends and family are on this thread.
Second, I am a firm believer in honesty when it comes to addiction. My sister is an addict (she loves dilaudid and Ativan). When she dies, our family won't pretend that she died from the flu or some such. I'm sure his friends and family knew about his addiction...you can't hide an addiction like that.
I am concerned with the American notion of political correctness that sugarcoats everything and rewrites history when a celebrity dies. I actually think it's quite harmful for teens and young adults to see addicts idolized and their addiction ignored.
+1,000,000
We need to be honest about self-harm and drug use.
And it is honest to jump to conclusions??? Sure, he may well have been/probably was an addict. He also could be a chronic pain patient under the care of a reputable doctor. There is no indication that he was "self-medicating" using pain drugs off of the street or that there were surgeries that would have 100% saved him from the pain but not ruined his life/career. There may have been, but jumping straight to "addict" is part of what makes it so difficult for people who legitimately need medication to get it. It is fine with me if you never want pain meds again, but I need them and am far from an "addict."
Anonymous
04/23/2016 21:32
Subject: Re:RIP Prince
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can we refrain from speculating on whether he was an addict or not until the autopsy results are back?
I always thought deep down he was shy. I watched a video today where he said he tried to be as flamboyant and loud as possible because he was bullied as a child. So, even if he did do drugs for mental problems, let's not judge him.
Nobody is judging him. But as a mother, I'm not sugarcoating the danger of addiction. It's not okay. And just because he was a famous musician doesn't mean we should ignore it. In fact, it presents a teachable moment.
Guess what? If you are in chronic pain, then it's best to undergo medical treatment as opposed to self-medicating with dangerous drugs that can kill you.
You can celebrate the musical genius and acknowledge this shortcomings...it's okay, people.
I was given a small dose of dilaudud when I was in the er a decade ago...that stuff is crazy! My husband asked what they gave me and was bedside himself as he monitored me until I came out of it. Never again.
Can you wait until the man is in the ground before you start trying to tear apart his reputation. He was a decent and private man. Show some dn respect for the dead.
?
First, I'm not saying this to anyone who knew him personally. I doubt his friends and family are on this thread.
Second, I am a firm believer in honesty when it comes to addiction. My sister is an addict (she loves dilaudid and Ativan). When she dies, our family won't pretend that she died from the flu or some such. I'm sure his friends and family knew about his addiction...you can't hide an addiction like that.
I am concerned with the American notion of political correctness that sugarcoats everything and rewrites history when a celebrity dies. I actually think it's quite harmful for teens and young adults to see addicts idolized and their addiction ignored.
+1,000,000
We need to be honest about self-harm and drug use.
Anonymous
04/23/2016 20:52
Subject: RIP Prince
PS - He was cremated today and a private funeral was held. That's the equivalent of being in the ground, right?
Anonymous
04/23/2016 20:51
Subject: Re:RIP Prince
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can we refrain from speculating on whether he was an addict or not until the autopsy results are back?
I always thought deep down he was shy. I watched a video today where he said he tried to be as flamboyant and loud as possible because he was bullied as a child. So, even if he did do drugs for mental problems, let's not judge him.
Nobody is judging him. But as a mother, I'm not sugarcoating the danger of addiction. It's not okay. And just because he was a famous musician doesn't mean we should ignore it. In fact, it presents a teachable moment.
Guess what? If you are in chronic pain, then it's best to undergo medical treatment as opposed to self-medicating with dangerous drugs that can kill you.
You can celebrate the musical genius and acknowledge this shortcomings...it's okay, people.
I was given a small dose of dilaudud when I was in the er a decade ago...that stuff is crazy! My husband asked what they gave me and was bedside himself as he monitored me until I came out of it. Never again.
Can you wait until the man is in the ground before you start trying to tear apart his reputation. He was a decent and private man. Show some dn respect for the dead.
?
First, I'm not saying this to anyone who knew him personally. I doubt his friends and family are on this thread.
Second, I am a firm believer in honesty when it comes to addiction. My sister is an addict (she loves dilaudid and Ativan). When she dies, our family won't pretend that she died from the flu or some such. I'm sure his friends and family knew about his addiction...you can't hide an addiction like that.
I am concerned with the American notion of political correctness that sugarcoats everything and rewrites history when a celebrity dies. I actually think it's quite harmful for teens and young adults to see addicts idolized and their addiction ignored.
Anonymous
04/23/2016 20:45
Subject: Re:RIP Prince
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can we refrain from speculating on whether he was an addict or not until the autopsy results are back?
I always thought deep down he was shy. I watched a video today where he said he tried to be as flamboyant and loud as possible because he was bullied as a child. So, even if he did do drugs for mental problems, let's not judge him.
Nobody is judging him. But as a mother, I'm not sugarcoating the danger of addiction. It's not okay. And just because he was a famous musician doesn't mean we should ignore it. In fact, it presents a teachable moment.
Guess what? If you are in chronic pain, then it's best to undergo medical treatment as opposed to self-medicating with dangerous drugs that can kill you.
You can celebrate the musical genius and acknowledge this shortcomings...it's okay, people.
I was given a small dose of dilaudud when I was in the er a decade ago...that stuff is crazy! My husband asked what they gave me and was bedside himself as he monitored me until I came out of it. Never again.
Can you wait until the man is in the ground before you start trying to tear apart his reputation. He was a decent and private man. Show some dn respect for the dead.
Anonymous
04/23/2016 20:32
Subject: RIP Prince
Anonymous
04/23/2016 20:27
Subject: RIP Prince
A clip show will be airing tonight on Saturday Night Life:
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/22/saturday-night-live-prince-special-good-night-sweet
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/22/saturday-night-live-prince-special-good-night-sweet
Anonymous
04/23/2016 20:17
Subject: Re:RIP Prince
Anonymous wrote:Can we refrain from speculating on whether he was an addict or not until the autopsy results are back?
I always thought deep down he was shy. I watched a video today where he said he tried to be as flamboyant and loud as possible because he was bullied as a child. So, even if he did do drugs for mental problems, let's not judge him.
Nobody is judging him. But as a mother, I'm not sugarcoating the danger of addiction. It's not okay. And just because he was a famous musician doesn't mean we should ignore it. In fact, it presents a teachable moment.
Guess what? If you are in chronic pain, then it's best to undergo medical treatment as opposed to self-medicating with dangerous drugs that can kill you.
You can celebrate the musical genius and acknowledge this shortcomings...it's okay, people.
I was given a small dose of dilaudud when I was in the er a decade ago...that stuff is crazy! My husband asked what they gave me and was bedside himself as he monitored me until I came out of it. Never again.
Anonymous
04/23/2016 20:09
Subject: Re:RIP Prince
Can we refrain from speculating on whether he was an addict or not until the autopsy results are back?
I always thought deep down he was shy. I watched a video today where he said he tried to be as flamboyant and loud as possible because he was bullied as a child. So, even if he did do drugs for mental problems, let's not judge him.
I always thought deep down he was shy. I watched a video today where he said he tried to be as flamboyant and loud as possible because he was bullied as a child. So, even if he did do drugs for mental problems, let's not judge him.
Anonymous
04/23/2016 20:02
Subject: RIP Prince
His dealer (not a doctor) said he was addicted to dilaudid and fentinyl. Those aren't pain meds. Those are drugs addicts take when pain meds aren't fun anymore.
They give dilaudid to heroin addicts and alcoholics in the ER when they are suffering from withdrawal. These are dangerous prescription drugs.
Pain or not, this man was an addict. I'm surprised he made it to 57 given the drugs he was taking. Very sad.
He can be both a great artist and an addict. Let's not sugarcoat it.
They give dilaudid to heroin addicts and alcoholics in the ER when they are suffering from withdrawal. These are dangerous prescription drugs.
Pain or not, this man was an addict. I'm surprised he made it to 57 given the drugs he was taking. Very sad.
He can be both a great artist and an addict. Let's not sugarcoat it.
Anonymous
04/23/2016 19:56
Subject: RIP Prince
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Purple Rain got re-released at AMC Hoffman for the next few days.
Oh excellent! I'm definitely going to a showing.
No problem for passing info along....I saw it at Hoffman (first showing of the day) and it was in the 400 seat theater, and sold out. AMC is charging $6.49 for everyone/per person, and people were recording parts of it on their phones. Why? You can buy this movie, why record something you can buy? Some people were singing throughout, others clapped here and there.
Take the nudity and 2 "F" bombs out and if PG-13 was invented at the time, that is what this would have got.
Anonymous
04/23/2016 17:18
Subject: RIP Prince
Anonymous wrote:He had so many mental problems to deal with.
Not really. Please point to something that indicates this.
It's true he was very reserved and introverted, according to many who knew him. A genius and virtuoso for sure.
Anonymous
04/23/2016 17:15
Subject: RIP Prince
Anonymous wrote:Purple Rain got re-released at AMC Hoffman for the next few days.
Oh excellent! I'm definitely going to a showing.
Anonymous
04/23/2016 16:48
Subject: RIP Prince
He had so many mental problems to deal with.
Anonymous
04/23/2016 16:47
Subject: RIP Prince
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry but this man OD'd. He did not die of cancer, or assassination or any other unavoidable fate.
He chose to take drugs and they killed him. Along with Whitney Houston.
Its a death of shame. Total shame.
You do realize that the picture that is shaping up for him (prescription pills for a legitimate condition that he probably took too many of due to actual pain) is different than that of a lifelong stereotypical addict that hurts everyone around him or her, steals, etc., right? The former is a simple tragedy. The latter is a waste, but one likely borne of psychological illness or unresolved trauma.
You are kidding right? Because a doctor gave him those pills instead of a dealer makes them no less dangerous, no less addictive and no less death-inducing.
Don't think I said that if you read. What I said is that taking 4 instead of 3 and dying because you are in excruciating pain isn't the same as being a "shameful" junkie - obviously still dead.