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Anonymous wrote:I'm so tired of the argument that an AA person can act however they want and it is all about how they are black. Give it a rest. If a white person acted up and this happened, no one would be screamimg about the victim being blamed.

What untimatly happened was unfortunate. But as of now, there is no proof of murder. Enough with the tabloid speculation.

How many white people end up in jail for three days for not using a turn signal when switching lanes? This case is outrageous.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, under the law, technicalities are important.

1) he did not cite the stop sign when he pulled her over
2) he did not order her to put out the cigarette.

These are important distinctions.

And the first one is irrelevant because THERE WAS NO STOP SIGN.

Actually I am one of Bland's defenders but I do believe there was a stop sign when she first pulled out onto the road where the cop already was. It looks like she blew through it. When he makes his U turn to follow here you can see the stop sign.
Did you watch all of the video including the part with his u turn?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so tired of the argument that an AA person can act however they want and it is all about how they are black. Give it a rest. If a white person acted up and this happened, no one would be screamimg about the victim being blamed.

What untimatly happened was unfortunate. But as of now, there is no proof of murder. Enough with the tabloid speculation.

How many white people end up in jail for three days for not using a turn signal when switching lanes? This case is outrageous.

Anonymous wrote:I'm so tired of the argument that an AA person can act however they want and it is all about how they are black. Give it a rest. If a white person acted up and this happened, no one would be screamimg about the victim being blamed.

What untimatly happened was unfortunate. But as of now, there is no proof of murder. Enough with the tabloid speculation.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please tell me why the cop told her to put out her cigarette?

It's something that people ask each other while conversing. You can comply or refuse. But why refuse?

Actually I note he asked her "if she would mind". It was not an order. It was a request, which she declined.

Now, we have to comply with any lawful ORDER, whether the cop explains or not. Cops can't spend time explaining to you that there's a gas leak and your smoke could cause an explosion. So they can order you to put out a cigarette.

But he did not order. He asked. She refused. Either it should have ended there or, he should have reissued the request as an order.

Ah! But he did not give her a lawful order. Telling someone to put out a cigarette is not a lawful order. Where is it illegal to smoke in your car? When she asked why can I not smoke in my own car, he decided to arrest her. God complex much on the officer's part.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, under the law, technicalities are important.

1) he did not cite the stop sign when he pulled her over
2) he did not order her to put out the cigarette.

These are important distinctions.

And the first one is irrelevant because THERE WAS NO STOP SIGN.

Anonymous wrote:Did you notice that at the very beginning of the video, Bland passes the officer going *in the opposite direction*, and for..... some reason..... he does a U turn and follows her and pulls her over?

Guilty of driving while black.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, under the law, technicalities are important.

1) he did not cite the stop sign when he pulled her over
2) he did not order her to put out the cigarette.

These are important distinctions.

Neither of those things matters. A cop can order you out of your car during a traffic stop. If you resist, struggle, fight, you can get arrested. Maybe the whole thing would have been thrown out by the judge, maybe she would have been charged, then. We'll never know.

The things a police officer do actually do matter. When a police officer pulls you over during a traffic stop, is it prudent to do whatever the police officer asks, without protest? It might be. Does that mean it's ok for the police officer to ask you to do whatever the police officer feels like asking you to do? No.

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Anonymous wrote: It is abso-frreaking amazing to me that people are putting more onus on the citizen than on the cop. This man issued orders he had NO LEGAL RIGHT TO DO! He has been restricted to desk duty for violations due to this arrest. And we are still hearing from people who somehow believe that a pissy ass attitude trumps violating citizens' legal rights and a dereliction of your duty as an officer. At some point we will need to wake to realize we need to do something about being afraid to die because the cop does not like our attitude when we assert our legal rights. A big mouth is not the problem.

Of course not and I don't think anyone is saying he was in the right, but a respectful attitude could have nipped the whole thing in the bud. She could have left with a ticket and disputed it in front of a judge, where, you know, she would not have been in danger of physical harm.

DA FUG??????
Again I say, when will this crap happen and people say that the bottom line is that officers cannot abuse their authority? Can I harm or kill my kid because they mouth off?
Some of your are so out of line, and ridiculous...until it's your sister or brother...or boyfriend.
NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO WORRY THAT THEY WILL SAY THE WRONG(NOT ILLEGAL) THING TO AN OFFICER WHO IS BOUND TO SERVE AND PROTECT AND CARRY OUT THE LAWS OF THE LAND - NOT POLICE MY F**** MANNERS!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how to say this without sounding like a real c*nt, but I'm saying it anyway. When he asked her to put out the cigarette, why was she so pissy and disrespectful? Did I miss part of the video, was he hateful to her first. We all know most cops are arrogant assholes. But we don't have to be belligerent back. Just do what they say and no one gets hurt.

I saw the clip this morning and this was my first question. WTH??!!????

BECAUSE SHE WAS UNFAIRLY PROFILED AND PULLED OVER! Sorry for the yelling, but it's pretty clear and I've said this before on this thread and been ignored repeatedly. He tailed her closely so that she changed lane to let him get past -- which was both the appropriate thing to do for a cop and generally just considerate driving -- and then he pulled her over for doing so. You don't instigate someone to do something -- by tailing her aggressively -- then ticket them for doing so without your victim being pissed. Absolutely, 100 percent unacceptable and the cop's bosses agree. He behaved appallingly and has been suspended. She should never have been arrested, should never have been in jail and would be alive today if the cop had been doing his job properly and not acting like he was on a power trip.

She had just run a stop sign and knew she was in the wrong. That would explain her behavior.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please tell me why the cop told her to put out her cigarette?

It's something that people ask each other while conversing. You can comply or refuse. But why refuse?

Actually I note he asked her "if she would mind". It was not an order. It was a request, which she declined.

Now, we have to comply with any lawful ORDER, whether the cop explains or not. Cops can't spend time explaining to you that there's a gas leak and your smoke could cause an explosion. So they can order you to put out a cigarette.

But he did not order. He asked. She refused. Either it should have ended there or, he should have reissued the request as an order.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so tired of the argument that an AA person can act however they want and it is all about how they are black. Give it a rest. If a white person acted up and this happened, no one would be screamimg about the victim being blamed.

What untimatly happened was unfortunate. But as of now, there is no proof of murder. Enough with the tabloid speculation.

I'm so tired of the argument that an African American woman has to be subservient at all times and never question an abuse of power, without being victim blamed.

this would NEVER have happened to a white woman.

I'm white BTW, but I recognize my privilege.

Anonymous wrote:I'm so tired of the argument that an AA person can act however they want and it is all about how they are black. Give it a rest. If a white person acted up and this happened, no one would be screamimg about the victim being blamed.

What untimatly happened was unfortunate. But as of now, there is no proof of murder. Enough with the tabloid speculation.