Anonymous
Post 06/22/2015 16:41     Subject: Confederate Battle Flag

Anonymous wrote:15:38 here -- I suppose it is a cause celebre, because of Dylann Roof. In that case, never mind, I don't care if SC flies the Confederate flag, the Jolly Roger, or the British flag. Or the South African-apartheid flag or the Rhodesian flag. Whatever they want to do.


On this we agree. And let the chips fall where they may.

The warning I have is when progressives continues to move from cause to cause, they begin to look scattered and foolish.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2015 16:39     Subject: Confederate Battle Flag

jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep it was. So why would the Clintons also honor the legacy of the Stars and Bars?


The fourth star was added to the Arkansas state flag in 1923. Were the Clintons alive then?


Might want to take a gander at this article, complete with document signed by Bill


http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/22/hillary-clintons-history-with-the-confederate-flag/



I have no idea why that bill was necessary, but all it does is state that the star added to the flag in 1923, before the Clintons were born as I said above, was added to represent the Confederacy. All the bill does is state what the history of the flag is.


Bill did nothing to change it. He confirmed it - the document is dated 1987 and he signed it. Document approved March 7, 1987. Then there are the campaign buttons.

Do I personally care? No. Do I think the outrage against Haley and the state of SC is a cause celebre? Yes.


This is exactly why I deleted your first post. This is completely irrelevant to today's topic. I don't think any of us have a clue about what was going on in Arkansas in 1987. We do know that in 2000, the flag in South Carolina was controversial and that controversy led to it being removed from the Capitol Building and placed in its current location. So, this is not a new controversy. Obviously, Roof brought renewed attention to the flag.

In a few minutes, Haley will call for the removal of the flag. You are on the wrong side of history.


I am fine with Nikki Haley taking the flag down. It was her decision and SC's decision all along. You assumed I supported the flag and therefore support racism. I support their right to fly the flag and support their right to take it down. That's called freedom.

What happened in 1987 is VERY relevant. The absolute bullying of Nikki Haley and the people of SC as result of that flag, while ignoring Bill and Hillary Clinton's association with it? With her a presidential candidate? If that flag is what you say it it - racist - then it had NO business in AK either. Yet Bill and Hillary thought it important.

I believe you deleted the posts because it did not fit your narrative. Whether or not you were aware of it until I posted it, I can't guess. I believe you wanted to hide the information from DCUM posters due to the arguments you made. I find that disingenuous. YMMV but that's my opinion.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2015 16:34     Subject: Confederate Battle Flag

I suspect that some of the people digging their heels in about this flag and its "symbolism" as honoring their heritage are the same people that tell AA's to get over slavery
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2015 15:54     Subject: Confederate Battle Flag

15:38 here -- I suppose it is a cause celebre, because of Dylann Roof. In that case, never mind, I don't care if SC flies the Confederate flag, the Jolly Roger, or the British flag. Or the South African-apartheid flag or the Rhodesian flag. Whatever they want to do.
jsteele
Post 06/22/2015 15:53     Subject: Confederate Battle Flag

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep it was. So why would the Clintons also honor the legacy of the Stars and Bars?


The fourth star was added to the Arkansas state flag in 1923. Were the Clintons alive then?


Might want to take a gander at this article, complete with document signed by Bill


http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/22/hillary-clintons-history-with-the-confederate-flag/



I have no idea why that bill was necessary, but all it does is state that the star added to the flag in 1923, before the Clintons were born as I said above, was added to represent the Confederacy. All the bill does is state what the history of the flag is.


Bill did nothing to change it. He confirmed it - the document is dated 1987 and he signed it. Document approved March 7, 1987. Then there are the campaign buttons.

Do I personally care? No. Do I think the outrage against Haley and the state of SC is a cause celebre? Yes.


This is exactly why I deleted your first post. This is completely irrelevant to today's topic. I don't think any of us have a clue about what was going on in Arkansas in 1987. We do know that in 2000, the flag in South Carolina was controversial and that controversy led to it being removed from the Capitol Building and placed in its current location. So, this is not a new controversy. Obviously, Roof brought renewed attention to the flag.

In a few minutes, Haley will call for the removal of the flag. You are on the wrong side of history.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2015 15:52     Subject: Confederate Battle Flag

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So assuming the flag is taken down in SC, what's the next token evil? Or rainbow and unicorns and world pecans are expected? Honest question to all libs here.


I could get into world pecans. Glazed even better

Seriously, though, they simply move onto the next cause celebre. It's more about notoriety and self-identication, which is why it seems so contrived and splintered. It's like a collective 'squirrel' moment.



Right. It's NBD having the Confederate flag flying on the State House grounds. That's why it's been an ongoing issue in SC for decades. Silly libs.
Yet not an all an issue in Arkansas? And not an issue on Bill Clinton's campaign buttons?

I'm trying to figure out why NOW it's a huge issue. PP is right: it's simply a token evil to make you feel better.


Locally, it seems to have been an issue in SC for quite some time. Why is it an issue NOW nationally? Does the name Dylann Roof ring a bell? That's why we're discussing it today, rather than last year or last month.


He burned the American flag. Why not attack that? Again, why isn't AK a big deal?
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2015 15:38     Subject: Confederate Battle Flag

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So assuming the flag is taken down in SC, what's the next token evil? Or rainbow and unicorns and world pecans are expected? Honest question to all libs here.


I could get into world pecans. Glazed even better

Seriously, though, they simply move onto the next cause celebre. It's more about notoriety and self-identication, which is why it seems so contrived and splintered. It's like a collective 'squirrel' moment.



Right. It's NBD having the Confederate flag flying on the State House grounds. That's why it's been an ongoing issue in SC for decades. Silly libs.
Yet not an all an issue in Arkansas? And not an issue on Bill Clinton's campaign buttons?

I'm trying to figure out why NOW it's a huge issue. PP is right: it's simply a token evil to make you feel better.


Locally, it seems to have been an issue in SC for quite some time. Why is it an issue NOW nationally? Does the name Dylann Roof ring a bell? That's why we're discussing it today, rather than last year or last month.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2015 15:35     Subject: Confederate Battle Flag

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep it was. So why would the Clintons also honor the legacy of the Stars and Bars?


The fourth star was added to the Arkansas state flag in 1923. Were the Clintons alive then?


Might want to take a gander at this article, complete with document signed by Bill


http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/22/hillary-clintons-history-with-the-confederate-flag/



I have no idea why that bill was necessary, but all it does is state that the star added to the flag in 1923, before the Clintons were born as I said above, was added to represent the Confederacy. All the bill does is state what the history of the flag is.


Bill did nothing to change it. He confirmed it - the document is dated 1987 and he signed it. Document approved March 7, 1987. Then there are the campaign buttons.

Do I personally care? No. Do I think the outrage against Haley and the state of SC is a cause celebre? Yes.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2015 15:32     Subject: Confederate Battle Flag

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So assuming the flag is taken down in SC, what's the next token evil? Or rainbow and unicorns and world pecans are expected? Honest question to all libs here.


I could get into world pecans. Glazed even better

Seriously, though, they simply move onto the next cause celebre. It's more about notoriety and self-identication, which is why it seems so contrived and splintered. It's like a collective 'squirrel' moment.



Right. It's NBD having the Confederate flag flying on the State House grounds. That's why it's been an ongoing issue in SC for decades. Silly libs.
Yet not an all an issue in Arkansas? And not an issue on Bill Clinton's campaign buttons?

I'm trying to figure out why NOW it's a huge issue. PP is right: it's simply a token evil to make you feel better.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2015 15:01     Subject: Confederate Battle Flag

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep it was. So why would the Clintons also honor the legacy of the Stars and Bars?


The fourth star was added to the Arkansas state flag in 1923. Were the Clintons alive then?


Might want to take a gander at this article, complete with document signed by Bill


http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/22/hillary-clintons-history-with-the-confederate-flag/



I have no idea why that bill was necessary, but all it does is state that the star added to the flag in 1923, before the Clintons were born as I said above, was added to represent the Confederacy. All the bill does is state what the history of the flag is.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2015 15:01     Subject: Confederate Battle Flag

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So assuming the flag is taken down in SC, what's the next token evil? Or rainbow and unicorns and world pecans are expected? Honest question to all libs here.


I could get into world pecans. Glazed even better

Seriously, though, they simply move onto the next cause celebre. It's more about notoriety and self-identication, which is why it seems so contrived and splintered. It's like a collective 'squirrel' moment.



Right. It's NBD having the Confederate flag flying on the State House grounds. That's why it's been an ongoing issue in SC for decades. Silly libs.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2015 14:59     Subject: Confederate Battle Flag

Anonymous wrote:So assuming the flag is taken down in SC, what's the next token evil? Or rainbow and unicorns and world pecans are expected? Honest question to all libs here.


I could get into world pecans. Glazed even better

Seriously, though, they simply move onto the next cause celebre. It's more about notoriety and self-identication, which is why it seems so contrived and splintered. It's like a collective 'squirrel' moment.

jsteele
Post 06/22/2015 14:56     Subject: Confederate Battle Flag

Anonymous wrote:So assuming the flag is taken down in SC, what's the next token evil? Or rainbow and unicorns and world pecans are expected? Honest question to all libs here.


Yeah, libs are the kings of manufactured outrage. Once I get done reading the stream of pontifications about Obama using the "n-word", I try to get back to your question.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2015 14:55     Subject: Confederate Battle Flag

Anonymous wrote:So assuming the flag is taken down in SC, what's the next token evil? Or rainbow and unicorns and world pecans are expected? Honest question to all libs here.


Obviously. That's next on the agenda.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2015 14:49     Subject: Confederate Battle Flag

pecans = piece
Lol.