Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 21:27     Subject: Re:Austistic teen kicked off plane.....
Anonymous wrote:I don't have kids with ASD but with other developmental disorders. It's hard to see such ignorant posts from people who don't have a freakin clue how different it is to parent some of these kids. Given what I've seen on this thread and what I've experienced, I have no doubt the United flight attendants are in dire need of training. I agree with the PPs who noted that "people believe better parenting can fix autism". I hope United gets their ass handed to them.


Of course, better parenting cannot fix autism, but better parenting can get better services and help prepare a child for life as an adult. Better parenting can help meet needs in advanced by anticipating problems and being prepared. Mom could have brought a thermos, got food and hot water at the airport and had hot food. Better parenting knows the techniques to calm your child. Better parenting sets an example which does not include threatening or bullying to get your demands met. Many of us fly with kids with autism and do not have these issues. We do sometimes use either the disability or family boarding and that is it. Other than that I bring everything we could possibly need including extras for delays. I am very empathic towards others but not if they behave poorly and then use it to set up a lawsuit and make your child a poster child for the news for attention.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 17:00     Subject: Austistic teen kicked off plane.....
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can't threaten that your kid will get violent to get what you want and then be surprised that the flight attendants take precautions in case your kid gets violent. Landing the plane was probably an overreaction, but the mother didn't handle the whole situation well either.


This. This. THis!


The mother was acting entitled. She threatened that her kid would throw a fit and start scratching if she didn't get a hot meal. May the crew over reacted, but who are they to know the kids wasn't going to lose her shit?

Sorry but it was poor planning on the mothers part. For a mother who claims they have traveled a ton with their daughter, she really failed to plan ahead and then used her daughters disability to get what the wanted and make threats. I really do not feel sorry for this woman or her family.


I feel bad for the child to be put in that situation and then to have it all over the news. Mom is looking for a fight and lawsuit as she's another "advocate." Her daughter is her cause.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 16:05     Subject: Austistic teen kicked off plane.....
Anonymous wrote:You can't threaten that your kid will get violent to get what you want and then be surprised that the flight attendants take precautions in case your kid gets violent. Landing the plane was probably an overreaction, but the mother didn't handle the whole situation well either.


This. This. THis!


The mother was acting entitled. She threatened that her kid would throw a fit and start scratching if she didn't get a hot meal. May the crew over reacted, but who are they to know the kids wasn't going to lose her shit?

Sorry but it was poor planning on the mothers part. For a mother who claims they have traveled a ton with their daughter, she really failed to plan ahead and then used her daughters disability to get what the wanted and make threats. I really do not feel sorry for this woman or her family.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 14:55     Subject: Austistic teen kicked off plane.....
Damn, I wish I knew that making noise was a reason to get the plane to land and have people kicked off. Every flight to Vegas would be deplaned. Everyone's always a stupid mess on those planes. And the flight I recently took with probably half the plane singing stupid fight songs for a game they were going to. Huh. We never got diverted though. That seems rather incompatible with my flying experience, yet no one said anything (myself include, because, well, I'm not a total dick). But if those same people singing fight songs for the entire flight and yelling to each other from the front to the back of the plane had autism, well, hell, they would be considered a threat to the the safety of everyone on board I guess.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 14:42     Subject: Austistic teen kicked off plane.....
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/06/02/3-year-old-kicked-off-airplane-for-crying/

Actually they do.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 14:41     Subject: Austistic teen kicked off plane.....
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Ok. Please educate me. Is any and all bratty behavior by someone with autism excused? Please answer yes or no. What if the girl wanted to sing Let it Go at the top of her lungs the whole flight? Do we have to allow that? Where is the line?


What bratty behavior are you suggesting this girl engaged in? Or is this just a hypothetical for the fun of bashing people with autism. I seem to recall a post upthread where someone posted that a pilot warned folks that someone with tourette's was going to be boarding and to try to excuse the outbursts? In other words, have compassion for people dealing with issues that you thankfully don't have to deal with. A plane is not your private sanctuary, you're out in public when you fly, so I'm sorry if people with autism cause problems. For you.


According to a passenger who has spoken out, the girl was "howling" the entire flight while the crew tried to placate her for an hour.


Ok. And..? That type of behavior isn't necessarily uncommon with autism. It isn't "bratty."


Well it may not be "bratty" but it still sounds like to may be incompatible with air travel and it looks like United agrees! They refuse boarding to rowdy drunk people...


Are you actually comparing an autistic person with a drunk person?

They don't refuse service to loud toddlers and kids/people who kick seats for hours on end.


Yes, they do.

http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/2014/08/25/denver-flight-diverted-knee-defender/14595699/
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 14:39     Subject: Austistic teen kicked off plane.....
Anonymous wrote:
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Ok. Please educate me. Is any and all bratty behavior by someone with autism excused? Please answer yes or no. What if the girl wanted to sing Let it Go at the top of her lungs the whole flight? Do we have to allow that? Where is the line?


What bratty behavior are you suggesting this girl engaged in? Or is this just a hypothetical for the fun of bashing people with autism. I seem to recall a post upthread where someone posted that a pilot warned folks that someone with tourette's was going to be boarding and to try to excuse the outbursts? In other words, have compassion for people dealing with issues that you thankfully don't have to deal with. A plane is not your private sanctuary, you're out in public when you fly, so I'm sorry if people with autism cause problems. For you.


According to a passenger who has spoken out, the girl was "howling" the entire flight while the crew tried to placate her for an hour.


Ok. And..? That type of behavior isn't necessarily uncommon with autism. It isn't "bratty."


Actually, they have de boarded families whose kids wouldn't sit down for take off. Of course those families whined too...

Well it may not be "bratty" but it still sounds like to may be incompatible with air travel and it looks like United agrees! They refuse boarding to rowdy drunk people...


Are you actually comparing an autistic person with a drunk person?

They don't refuse service to loud toddlers and kids/people who kick seats for hours on end.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 14:35     Subject: Austistic teen kicked off plane.....
Anonymous wrote:
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Ok. Please educate me. Is any and all bratty behavior by someone with autism excused? Please answer yes or no. What if the girl wanted to sing Let it Go at the top of her lungs the whole flight? Do we have to allow that? Where is the line?


What bratty behavior are you suggesting this girl engaged in? Or is this just a hypothetical for the fun of bashing people with autism. I seem to recall a post upthread where someone posted that a pilot warned folks that someone with tourette's was going to be boarding and to try to excuse the outbursts? In other words, have compassion for people dealing with issues that you thankfully don't have to deal with. A plane is not your private sanctuary, you're out in public when you fly, so I'm sorry if people with autism cause problems. For you.


According to a passenger who has spoken out, the girl was "howling" the entire flight while the crew tried to placate her for an hour.


Ok. And..? That type of behavior isn't necessarily uncommon with autism. It isn't "bratty."


Well it may not be "bratty" but it still sounds like to may be incompatible with air travel and it looks like United agrees! They refuse boarding to rowdy drunk people...


Are you actually comparing an autistic person with a drunk person?

They don't refuse service to loud toddlers and kids/people who kick seats for hours on end.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 14:21     Subject: Austistic teen kicked off plane.....
Anonymous wrote:
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Ok. Please educate me. Is any and all bratty behavior by someone with autism excused? Please answer yes or no. What if the girl wanted to sing Let it Go at the top of her lungs the whole flight? Do we have to allow that? Where is the line?


What bratty behavior are you suggesting this girl engaged in? Or is this just a hypothetical for the fun of bashing people with autism. I seem to recall a post upthread where someone posted that a pilot warned folks that someone with tourette's was going to be boarding and to try to excuse the outbursts? In other words, have compassion for people dealing with issues that you thankfully don't have to deal with. A plane is not your private sanctuary, you're out in public when you fly, so I'm sorry if people with autism cause problems. For you.


According to a passenger who has spoken out, the girl was "howling" the entire flight while the crew tried to placate her for an hour.


Ok. And..? That type of behavior isn't necessarily uncommon with autism. It isn't "bratty."


Well it may not be "bratty" but it still sounds like to may be incompatible with air travel and it looks like United agrees! They refuse boarding to rowdy drunk people...


Oh, don't even go there.... Too many things all of us experience on a regular basis while flying are "incompatible with air travel' for that statement to hold any water at all.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 14:06     Subject: Austistic teen kicked off plane.....
Anonymous wrote:
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Ok. Please educate me. Is any and all bratty behavior by someone with autism excused? Please answer yes or no. What if the girl wanted to sing Let it Go at the top of her lungs the whole flight? Do we have to allow that? Where is the line?


What bratty behavior are you suggesting this girl engaged in? Or is this just a hypothetical for the fun of bashing people with autism. I seem to recall a post upthread where someone posted that a pilot warned folks that someone with tourette's was going to be boarding and to try to excuse the outbursts? In other words, have compassion for people dealing with issues that you thankfully don't have to deal with. A plane is not your private sanctuary, you're out in public when you fly, so I'm sorry if people with autism cause problems. For you.


According to a passenger who has spoken out, the girl was "howling" the entire flight while the crew tried to placate her for an hour.


Ok. And..? That type of behavior isn't necessarily uncommon with autism. It isn't "bratty."


Well it may not be "bratty" but it still sounds like to may be incompatible with air travel and it looks like United agrees! They refuse boarding to rowdy drunk people...
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 14:03     Subject: Austistic teen kicked off plane.....
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:


Ok. Please educate me. Is any and all bratty behavior by someone with autism excused? Please answer yes or no. What if the girl wanted to sing Let it Go at the top of her lungs the whole flight? Do we have to allow that? Where is the line?


What bratty behavior are you suggesting this girl engaged in? Or is this just a hypothetical for the fun of bashing people with autism. I seem to recall a post upthread where someone posted that a pilot warned folks that someone with tourette's was going to be boarding and to try to excuse the outbursts? In other words, have compassion for people dealing with issues that you thankfully don't have to deal with. A plane is not your private sanctuary, you're out in public when you fly, so I'm sorry if people with autism cause problems. For you.


According to a passenger who has spoken out, the girl was "howling" the entire flight while the crew tried to placate her for an hour.


Which is related to autism and not "bratty behavior." I've been on flights where kids screamed and cried for the entire flight. Amazingly, we never made an emergency landing.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 14:03     Subject: Austistic teen kicked off plane.....
Anonymous wrote:
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Ok. Please educate me. Is any and all bratty behavior by someone with autism excused? Please answer yes or no. What if the girl wanted to sing Let it Go at the top of her lungs the whole flight? Do we have to allow that? Where is the line?


What bratty behavior are you suggesting this girl engaged in? Or is this just a hypothetical for the fun of bashing people with autism. I seem to recall a post upthread where someone posted that a pilot warned folks that someone with tourette's was going to be boarding and to try to excuse the outbursts? In other words, have compassion for people dealing with issues that you thankfully don't have to deal with. A plane is not your private sanctuary, you're out in public when you fly, so I'm sorry if people with autism cause problems. For you.


According to a passenger who has spoken out, the girl was "howling" the entire flight while the crew tried to placate her for an hour.


Ok. And..? That type of behavior isn't necessarily uncommon with autism. It isn't "bratty."
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 13:58     Subject: Austistic teen kicked off plane.....
It sounds like the mother made the first mistake by not bringing a hot sandwich with her on the plane when she realized her daughter wouldn't eat during the layover.

The flight attendant made the second mistake by initially refusing to heat up the sandwich the mother purchased.

I don't understand why the mother was asking for salty snacks or rice from first class. The article said she had the child's favorite snacks with her.

The mother escalated the situation by making what sounds like a threat that her child would be violent if she didn't get hot food.

Lots of mistakes all around, so I can't see how a lawsuit will make winners out of any of them.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 13:56     Subject: Austistic teen kicked off plane.....
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Ok. Please educate me. Is any and all bratty behavior by someone with autism excused? Please answer yes or no. What if the girl wanted to sing Let it Go at the top of her lungs the whole flight? Do we have to allow that? Where is the line?


What bratty behavior are you suggesting this girl engaged in? Or is this just a hypothetical for the fun of bashing people with autism. I seem to recall a post upthread where someone posted that a pilot warned folks that someone with tourette's was going to be boarding and to try to excuse the outbursts? In other words, have compassion for people dealing with issues that you thankfully don't have to deal with. A plane is not your private sanctuary, you're out in public when you fly, so I'm sorry if people with autism cause problems. For you.


According to a passenger who has spoken out, the girl was "howling" the entire flight while the crew tried to placate her for an hour.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2015 13:54     Subject: Austistic teen kicked off plane.....
Anonymous wrote:


Ok. Please educate me. Is any and all bratty behavior by someone with autism excused? Please answer yes or no. What if the girl wanted to sing Let it Go at the top of her lungs the whole flight? Do we have to allow that? Where is the line?


What bratty behavior are you suggesting this girl engaged in? Or is this just a hypothetical for the fun of bashing people with autism. I seem to recall a post upthread where someone posted that a pilot warned folks that someone with tourette's was going to be boarding and to try to excuse the outbursts? In other words, have compassion for people dealing with issues that you thankfully don't have to deal with. A plane is not your private sanctuary, you're out in public when you fly, so I'm sorry if people with autism cause problems. For you.