Anonymous wrote:

Good question. Most likely, political heads will roll. Common Core has already been defunded, and once they can get rid of Duncan who is wielding his NCLB waivers as threats to force the Common Core and testing, people will likely pull back from the core.

It's too bad -- it was a good idea. But the standards are written in a way to micromanage learning and the testing boxes in teachers to teach to the test.

Anonymous wrote:
If lots of students fail the standardized tests, will the standards be changed or will the tests be changed?

Chicken or egg?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

ACT, College Board, et cetera. Looks like people who have a shitload of background and experience in developing standardized testing.

Apparently your preference would have been to hire people who don't know a fucking thing about standardized testing.

*This* is why people think your argument is idiotic. Do you still not understand any of this?

The response to this will be that the Common Core standards are bad because no teachers were involved. This tactic is called the Gish Gallop: http://blogs.bu.edu/pbokulic/2013/11/18/gish-gallop-fallacy-of-the-day/

That's all it's been from the get-go. Just one baseless assertion after another. The PP keeps wailing nonsense, like "it's developmentally inappropriate, there were no teachers involved" yadda yadda yadda... And when the argument is pointed out as baseless, they just start right back in again with the same old crap. Frankly I'm not sure the PP is even capable of understanding anything other than the talking points he/she keeps repeating over and over. The PP obviously has not read or understood a single thing anyone else has posted.

ACT, College Board, et cetera. Looks like people who have a shitload of background and experience in developing standardized testing.

Apparently your preference would have been to hire people who don't know a fucking thing about standardized testing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

ACT, College Board, et cetera. Looks like people who have a shitload of background and experience in developing standardized testing.

Apparently your preference would have been to hire people who don't know a fucking thing about standardized testing.

*This* is why people think your argument is idiotic. Do you still not understand any of this?

The response to this will be that the Common Core standards are bad because no teachers were involved. This tactic is called the Gish Gallop: http://blogs.bu.edu/pbokulic/2013/11/18/gish-gallop-fallacy-of-the-day/

The response to this will be that the Common Core standards are bad because no teachers were involved. This tactic is called the Gish Gallop: http://blogs.bu.edu/pbokulic/2013/11/18/gish-gallop-fallacy-of-the-day/

Anonymous wrote:

ACT, College Board, et cetera. Looks like people who have a shitload of background and experience in developing standardized testing.

Apparently your preference would have been to hire people who don't know a fucking thing about standardized testing.

*This* is why people think your argument is idiotic. Do you still not understand any of this?

Anonymous wrote:Below are the authors of the CC standards.

Source: http://www.nga.org/cms/home/news-room/news-releases/page_2009/col2-content/main-content-list/title_common-core-state-standards-development-work-group-and-feedback-group-announced.html



The members of the mathematics Work Group are:
Sara Clough, Director, Elementary and Secondary School Programs, Development, Education Division, ACT, Inc.[
Phil Daro, Senior Fellow, America's Choice
Susan K. Eddins, Educational Consultant, Illinois Mathematics and Science Academy (Retired)
Kaye Forgione, Senior Associate and Team Leader for Mathematics, Achieve
John Kraman, Associate Director, Research, Achieve
Marci Ladd, Mathematics Consultant, The College Board & Senior Manager and Mathematics Content Lead, Academic Benchmarks
William McCallum, University Distinguished Professor and Head, Department of Mathematics, The University of Arizona &Mathematics Consultant, Achieve
Sherri Miller, Assistant Vice President, Educational Planning and Assessment System (EPAS) Development, Education Division, ACT, Inc.
Ken Mullen, Senior Program Development Associate—Mathematics, Elementary and Secondary School Programs, Development, Education Division, ACT, Inc.
Robin O'Callaghan, Senior Director, Mathematics, Research and Development, The College Board
Andrew Schwartz, Assessment Manager, Research and Development, The College Board
Laura McGiffert Slover, Vice President, Content and Policy Research, Achieve
Douglas Sovde, Senior Associate, Mathematics, Achieve
Natasha Vasavada, Senior Director, Standards and Curriculum Alignment Services, Research and Development, The College Board
Jason Zimba, Faculty Member, Physics, Mathematics, and the Center for the Advancement of Public Action, Bennington College and Cofounder, Student Achievement Partners


Members of the English-language Arts Work Group are:
Sara Clough, Director, Elementary and Secondary School Programs, Development, Education Division, ACT, Inc.
David Coleman, Founder, Student Achievement Partners
Sally Hampton, Senior Fellow for Literacy, America's Choice
Joel Harris, Director, English Language Arts Curriculum and Standards, Research and Development, The College Board
Beth Hart, Senior Assessment Specialist, Research and Development, The College Board
John Kraman, Associate Director, Research, Achieve
Laura McGiffert Slover, Vice President, Content and Policy Research, Achieve
Nina Metzner, Senior Test Development Associate—Language Arts, Elementary and Secondary School Programs, Development, Education Division, ACT, Inc.
Sherri Miller, Assistant Vice President, Educational Planning and Assessment System (EPAS) Development, Education Division, ACT, Inc.
Sandy Murphy, Professor Emeritus, University of California – Davis
Jim Patterson, Senior Program Development Associate—Language Arts, Elementary and Secondary School Programs, Development, Education Division, ACT, Inc.
Sue Pimentel, Co-Founder, StandardsWork; English Language Arts Consultant, Achieve
Natasha Vasavada, Senior Director, Standards and Curriculum Alignment Services, Research and Development, The College Board
Martha Vockley, Principal and Founder, VockleyLang, LLC

Anonymous wrote:
Pearson admits in their own material that people who work for them are authors of the CC standards. By their own admission:

see this link: http://assets.pearsonschool.com/asset_mgr/current/201250/SAS_CCSS_Overview.pdf

Pearson’s Common Core Services are different:
• Experts who helped develop our
services are authors of the Common
Core State Standards.

There have been plenty of links on this thread that show the involvement of Pearson (and their subsidiary Achieve) in the CC standard writing process.

Pearson had a huge unfair advantage over any other competitor in developing materials for CC. Plus the roll out has been so fast that nobody else (private or public) could possibly have time to develop materials. And the materials are not based on authentic classroom experience (because there has been no time for that kind of feedback either).

Pearson’s Common Core Services are different:
• Experts who helped develop our
services are authors of the Common
Core State Standards.

Anonymous wrote:

Nutty to assert that "Pearson wrote the standards".

Not so nutty when you look at the bios of those who wrote them. Check out their connections.

Nutty to assert that "Pearson wrote the standards".