Anonymous wrote:Some push pack on the Op Ed

http://www.edexcellence.net/commentary/education-gadfly-daily/flypaper/flipping-out-controlled-choice-restricts-options

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Anonymous wrote:In 215 pages of handwringing, I don't believe anyone has admitted to what I'm about to admit:

I emphatically DO believe my special snowflake's education will be nearly "ruined" if he was to attend a school that is comprised of a few of his type and 70, 85% of the type of kids I encounter while at appointments in some parts of the District.

Yes, I do.

It would be one gigantic squandered opportunity for him and his considerable potential. I do believe him to have above-average capabilities at this time. I admit that too. Is he more Special than a destitute kid who eats Cheetos and purple drank for breakfast? Nope. Maybe he's even less Snowflakey. But I do know this: it's not DS role to sacrifice his potential to make a political point. Not his job to sit next to a failing kid so that kid hopefully gets some of DS's good student factors by osmosis or something.

How many here have experienced being a good student surrounded by poor students? I have. It made me a little lonely, perhaps, but did not diminish my educational achievement. I believe too many of us with success in our own lives and high hopes for our own kids believe that we have to have the best for our kid to reach his or her best. And many of us are right now trying to make an urban life after having lived a homogeneous suburban life, so we have little to go by.

Take a deep breath, everyone. In most of the situations we are placing our children in, they will have opportunties to reach their full potential. We do not need to live the Petrilli hypocrisy in order to have our children succeed in life.

Anonymous wrote:They are not consultants in any official way that I have seen. They are simply education policy experts who talk and blog a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:In 215 pages of handwringing, I don't believe anyone has admitted to what I'm about to admit:

I emphatically DO believe my special snowflake's education will be nearly "ruined" if he was to attend a school that is comprised of a few of his type and 70, 85% of the type of kids I encounter while at appointments in some parts of the District.

Yes, I do.

It would be one gigantic squandered opportunity for him and his considerable potential. I do believe him to have above-average capabilities at this time. I admit that too. Is he more Special than a destitute kid who eats Cheetos and purple drank for breakfast? Nope. Maybe he's even less Snowflakey. But I do know this: it's not DS role to sacrifice his potential to make a political point. Not his job to sit next to a failing kid so that kid hopefully gets some of DS's good student factors by osmosis or something.

How many here have experienced being a good student surrounded by poor students? I have. It made me a little lonely, perhaps, but did not diminish my educational achievement. I believe too many of us with success in our own lives and high hopes for our own kids believe that we have to have the best for our kid to reach his or her best. And many of us are right now trying to make an urban life after having lived a homogeneous suburban life, so we have little to go by.

Take a deep breath, everyone. In most of the situations we are placing our children in, they will have opportunties to reach their full potential. We do not need to live the Petrilli hypocrisy in order to have our children succeed in life.

You may think you have been in that kind of situation, but I don't think you fully understand what actually goes on in some of these classrooms in DC - so much chatter, crosstalk, kids moving around in the classroom and not sitting as they are supposed to, kids wandering in the halls and wandering randomly in and out of classrooms that they aren't even supposed to be in, kids throwing things, and in general, kids exploring every possible means of being disrespectful to the teacher, to the school, and to each other - that the teacher can't even get through the day's course materials because her hands are so full of trying to deal with a classroom full of undisciplined rowdy kids who have apparently had zero parenting at home. If the teacher can't teach, then yes, your educational achievement damn sure will be diminished. And let's drop this "special snowflake" baloney because it's never been about one "special snowflake" in the class - bad behavior ultimately hurts and holds back EVERY child in that classroom.

Jesus, please just go and move to Fairfax. Or likely you are already there.

No, I'm in DC. How about YOU move out. I live by an old motto. Either lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way. You seem to only be interested defending the status quo, defending the indefensible, and demonstrating a lack of leadership or thought. You have nothing useful to offer and therefore fall into the category of "get the hell out of the way".

Anonymous wrote: has the guy ever set foot in the district?

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Anonymous wrote:More from Mike Petrelli (and his own school choices) here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/schools-dilemma-for-urban-gentrifiers-keep-their-kids-urban-or-move-to-suburbia/2012/10/14/02083b6c-131b-11e2-a16b-2c110031514a_story.html

I love it! Thanks for posting.

Don't you almost feel sorry for how 'haunted" he is?. Now after not being able to stomach 33% FARMS in his own local school he is trying to exorcise his demons by mandating for everyone else a 50% FARMS kids in schools policy (but not for really rich people of course).

That article is absolutely freaking ridiculous. White guy who lives in TAKOMA PARK, MARYLAND photographed in front of the Mid City Deli in Logan Circle--which is one of the last buildings in that area to retain its vestiges of sketchiness, despite a Whole Foods being half a block down the street for over a decade--in order to give some credence to his fears about sending his kids to school with poor, brown kids?

He couldn't be more full of shit or out of touch if he tried.

He doesn't live in Takoma Park any more. He lived in Takoma Park but its public schools were too minority and poor for his kids, so he moved to Bethesda. Which makes it double fricking funny he loses like such an urban-liver-wanna-be. Takoma Park is lovely, but it's not exactly living in the hood.

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Anonymous wrote:More from Mike Petrelli (and his own school choices) here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/schools-dilemma-for-urban-gentrifiers-keep-their-kids-urban-or-move-to-suburbia/2012/10/14/02083b6c-131b-11e2-a16b-2c110031514a_story.html

I love it! Thanks for posting.

Don't you almost feel sorry for how 'haunted" he is?. Now after not being able to stomach 33% FARMS in his own local school he is trying to exorcise his demons by mandating for everyone else a 50% FARMS kids in schools policy (but not for really rich people of course).

That article is absolutely freaking ridiculous. White guy who lives in TAKOMA PARK, MARYLAND photographed in front of the Mid City Deli in Logan Circle--which is one of the last buildings in that area to retain its vestiges of sketchiness, despite a Whole Foods being half a block down the street for over a decade--in order to give some credence to his fears about sending his kids to school with poor, brown kids?

He couldn't be more full of shit or out of touch if he tried.

Anonymous wrote:Bussing failed for good reason. This is just bussing 2.0 and it will create white flight 2.0

Meaning it will not achieve the racial and class integration goals of wild-eyed liberals.

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Anonymous wrote:In 215 pages of handwringing, I don't believe anyone has admitted to what I'm about to admit:

I emphatically DO believe my special snowflake's education will be nearly "ruined" if he was to attend a school that is comprised of a few of his type and 70, 85% of the type of kids I encounter while at appointments in some parts of the District.

Yes, I do.

It would be one gigantic squandered opportunity for him and his considerable potential. I do believe him to have above-average capabilities at this time. I admit that too. Is he more Special than a destitute kid who eats Cheetos and purple drank for breakfast? Nope. Maybe he's even less Snowflakey. But I do know this: it's not DS role to sacrifice his potential to make a political point. Not his job to sit next to a failing kid so that kid hopefully gets some of DS's good student factors by osmosis or something.

How many here have experienced being a good student surrounded by poor students? I have. It made me a little lonely, perhaps, but did not diminish my educational achievement. I believe too many of us with success in our own lives and high hopes for our own kids believe that we have to have the best for our kid to reach his or her best. And many of us are right now trying to make an urban life after having lived a homogeneous suburban life, so we have little to go by.

Take a deep breath, everyone. In most of the situations we are placing our children in, they will have opportunties to reach their full potential. We do not need to live the Petrilli hypocrisy in order to have our children succeed in life.

You may think you have been in that kind of situation, but I don't think you fully understand what actually goes on in some of these classrooms in DC - so much chatter, crosstalk, kids moving around in the classroom and not sitting as they are supposed to, kids wandering in the halls and wandering randomly in and out of classrooms that they aren't even supposed to be in, kids throwing things, and in general, kids exploring every possible means of being disrespectful to the teacher, to the school, and to each other - that the teacher can't even get through the day's course materials because her hands are so full of trying to deal with a classroom full of undisciplined rowdy kids who have apparently had zero parenting at home. If the teacher can't teach, then yes, your educational achievement damn sure will be diminished. And let's drop this "special snowflake" baloney because it's never been about one "special snowflake" in the class - bad behavior ultimately hurts and holds back EVERY child in that classroom.

Jesus, please just go and move to Fairfax. Or likely you are already there.