Anonymous wrote:

Not the PP, but you clearly do not get it. Slavery and segregation were legal, while abortion was illegal. So laws can and do change over time. Our immigration laws have changed multiple times. Who knows what the law will be in 20 years?

I am not against immigration, legal or illegal. They are seeking the same opportunities my fore fathers did (who came here before there was a "USA" and therefore no immigration laws). I know that illegal immigration does hurt some - like legal construction workers who don't get hired because they want to be paid more than an illegal. My response? Go into an industry that pays more. Construction work (most of it) is manual labor that requires little skill, and therefore is (and should be) low paying. Illegals also pay many taxes - they rent apartments and homes, so property taxes are paid for through their rent, they pay sales tax on almost everything they buy, gasoline tax... all that is missing is income tax. And most make so little, they wouldn't have any income tax. To get financial assistance, you need a SSN. They don't have one. So more than likely they are not getting any government assistance.

You are incorrect and misinformed. Many illegals do get government assistance...by way of their anchor babies. The child is considered a US citizen (I strongly disagree with this) and as such is given a SSN. The parent can apply for aid for their children which can include welfare, public education, etc.

Illegal aliens also have access to free healthcare. It's no wonder our health care system is in such a stand state and many hospitals are in the red. It's because illegal aliens flood the emergency rooms, provide fake names, SSN's etc and get free healthcare.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sadly, then you couldn't get it. We have all kinds of laws that we must abide by, immigration is just one area.


I'm really glad that not all people think like you. Or else we'd still have slavery, segregation, and women without access to birth control dying from back-alley abortions.

How does expecting people to enter this country legally (even if they are hard-working upstanding citizens of their country of birth) and thus abide by our laws equate to sanctioning slavery, segregation, abortion, etc? You sound like an idiot.

Not the PP, but you clearly do not get it. Slavery and segregation were legal, while abortion was illegal. So laws can and do change over time. Our immigration laws have changed multiple times. Who knows what the law will be in 20 years?

I am not against immigration, legal or illegal. They are seeking the same opportunities my fore fathers did (who came here before there was a "USA" and therefore no immigration laws). I know that illegal immigration does hurt some - like legal construction workers who don't get hired because they want to be paid more than an illegal. My response? Go into an industry that pays more. Construction work (most of it) is manual labor that requires little skill, and therefore is (and should be) low paying. Illegals also pay many taxes - they rent apartments and homes, so property taxes are paid for through their rent, they pay sales tax on almost everything they buy, gasoline tax... all that is missing is income tax. And most make so little, they wouldn't have any income tax. To get financial assistance, you need a SSN. They don't have one. So more than likely they are not getting any government assistance.

Not the PP, but you clearly do not get it. Slavery and segregation were legal, while abortion was illegal. So laws can and do change over time. Our immigration laws have changed multiple times. Who knows what the law will be in 20 years?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not the PP, but you clearly do not get it. Slavery and segregation were legal, while abortion was illegal. So laws can and do change over time. Our immigration laws have changed multiple times. Who knows what the law will be in 20 years?

I am not against immigration, legal or illegal. They are seeking the same opportunities my fore fathers did (who came here before there was a "USA" and therefore no immigration laws). I know that illegal immigration does hurt some - like legal construction workers who don't get hired because they want to be paid more than an illegal. My response? Go into an industry that pays more. Construction work (most of it) is manual labor that requires little skill, and therefore is (and should be) low paying. Illegals also pay many taxes - they rent apartments and homes, so property taxes are paid for through their rent, they pay sales tax on almost everything they buy, gasoline tax... all that is missing is income tax. And most make so little, they wouldn't have any income tax. To get financial assistance, you need a SSN. They don't have one. So more than likely they are not getting any government assistance.

You are incorrect and misinformed. Many illegals do get government assistance...by way of their anchor babies. The child is considered a US citizen (I strongly disagree with this) and as such is given a SSN. The parent can apply for aid for their children which can include welfare, public education, etc.

Illegal aliens also have access to free healthcare. It's no wonder our health care system is in such a stand state and many hospitals are in the red. It's because illegal aliens flood the emergency rooms, provide fake names, SSN's etc and get free healthcare.

What does "many" mean? Have you actually seen this happen, or are you just choosing to believe that "many" people do it because Lou Dobbs told you so?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2011/apr/most-illegal-immigrant-families-collect-welfare
http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=16985&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1017

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not the PP, but you clearly do not get it. Slavery and segregation were legal, while abortion was illegal. So laws can and do change over time. Our immigration laws have changed multiple times. Who knows what the law will be in 20 years?

I am not against immigration, legal or illegal. They are seeking the same opportunities my fore fathers did (who came here before there was a "USA" and therefore no immigration laws). I know that illegal immigration does hurt some - like legal construction workers who don't get hired because they want to be paid more than an illegal. My response? Go into an industry that pays more. Construction work (most of it) is manual labor that requires little skill, and therefore is (and should be) low paying. Illegals also pay many taxes - they rent apartments and homes, so property taxes are paid for through their rent, they pay sales tax on almost everything they buy, gasoline tax... all that is missing is income tax. And most make so little, they wouldn't have any income tax. To get financial assistance, you need a SSN. They don't have one. So more than likely they are not getting any government assistance.

You are incorrect and misinformed. Many illegals do get government assistance...by way of their anchor babies. The child is considered a US citizen (I strongly disagree with this) and as such is given a SSN. The parent can apply for aid for their children which can include welfare, public education, etc.

Illegal aliens also have access to free healthcare. It's no wonder our health care system is in such a stand state and many hospitals are in the red. It's because illegal aliens flood the emergency rooms, provide fake names, SSN's etc and get free healthcare.

FAIR is not a reliable news source. Try again.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/cost-of-illegal-immigrants/

"...a 2007 report by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office examined 29 reports on state and local costs published over 15 years in an attempt to answer this question. CBO concluded that most of the estimates determined that illegal immigrants impose a net cost to state and local governments but "that impact is most likely modest." CBO said "no agreement exists as to the size of, or even the best way of measuring, that cost on a national level."


What does "many" mean? Have you actually seen this happen, or are you just choosing to believe that "many" people do it because Lou Dobbs told you so?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2011/apr/most-illegal-immigrant-families-collect-welfare
http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=16985&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1017

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not the PP, but you clearly do not get it. Slavery and segregation were legal, while abortion was illegal. So laws can and do change over time. Our immigration laws have changed multiple times. Who knows what the law will be in 20 years?

I am not against immigration, legal or illegal. They are seeking the same opportunities my fore fathers did (who came here before there was a "USA" and therefore no immigration laws). I know that illegal immigration does hurt some - like legal construction workers who don't get hired because they want to be paid more than an illegal. My response? Go into an industry that pays more. Construction work (most of it) is manual labor that requires little skill, and therefore is (and should be) low paying. Illegals also pay many taxes - they rent apartments and homes, so property taxes are paid for through their rent, they pay sales tax on almost everything they buy, gasoline tax... all that is missing is income tax. And most make so little, they wouldn't have any income tax. To get financial assistance, you need a SSN. They don't have one. So more than likely they are not getting any government assistance.

You are incorrect and misinformed. Many illegals do get government assistance...by way of their anchor babies. The child is considered a US citizen (I strongly disagree with this) and as such is given a SSN. The parent can apply for aid for their children which can include welfare, public education, etc.

Illegal aliens also have access to free healthcare. It's no wonder our health care system is in such a stand state and many hospitals are in the red. It's because illegal aliens flood the emergency rooms, provide fake names, SSN's etc and get free healthcare.

What does "many" mean? Have you actually seen this happen, or are you just choosing to believe that "many" people do it because Lou Dobbs told you so?

Not the PP you're responding to, but do you really not think this happens?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not the PP, but you clearly do not get it. Slavery and segregation were legal, while abortion was illegal. So laws can and do change over time. Our immigration laws have changed multiple times. Who knows what the law will be in 20 years?

I am not against immigration, legal or illegal. They are seeking the same opportunities my fore fathers did (who came here before there was a "USA" and therefore no immigration laws). I know that illegal immigration does hurt some - like legal construction workers who don't get hired because they want to be paid more than an illegal. My response? Go into an industry that pays more. Construction work (most of it) is manual labor that requires little skill, and therefore is (and should be) low paying. Illegals also pay many taxes - they rent apartments and homes, so property taxes are paid for through their rent, they pay sales tax on almost everything they buy, gasoline tax... all that is missing is income tax. And most make so little, they wouldn't have any income tax. To get financial assistance, you need a SSN. They don't have one. So more than likely they are not getting any government assistance.

You are incorrect and misinformed. Many illegals do get government assistance...by way of their anchor babies. The child is considered a US citizen (I strongly disagree with this) and as such is given a SSN. The parent can apply for aid for their children which can include welfare, public education, etc.

Illegal aliens also have access to free healthcare. It's no wonder our health care system is in such a stand state and many hospitals are in the red. It's because illegal aliens flood the emergency rooms, provide fake names, SSN's etc and get free healthcare.

What does "many" mean? Have you actually seen this happen, or are you just choosing to believe that "many" people do it because Lou Dobbs told you so?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the fact that people who pay no taxes or get money back can vote and or have the same amount of voting as the contributors.

So basically, you hate everything that the American republic is based on. Got it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not the PP, but you clearly do not get it. Slavery and segregation were legal, while abortion was illegal. So laws can and do change over time. Our immigration laws have changed multiple times. Who knows what the law will be in 20 years?

I am not against immigration, legal or illegal. They are seeking the same opportunities my fore fathers did (who came here before there was a "USA" and therefore no immigration laws). I know that illegal immigration does hurt some - like legal construction workers who don't get hired because they want to be paid more than an illegal. My response? Go into an industry that pays more. Construction work (most of it) is manual labor that requires little skill, and therefore is (and should be) low paying. Illegals also pay many taxes - they rent apartments and homes, so property taxes are paid for through their rent, they pay sales tax on almost everything they buy, gasoline tax... all that is missing is income tax. And most make so little, they wouldn't have any income tax. To get financial assistance, you need a SSN. They don't have one. So more than likely they are not getting any government assistance.

You are incorrect and misinformed. Many illegals do get government assistance...by way of their anchor babies. The child is considered a US citizen (I strongly disagree with this) and as such is given a SSN. The parent can apply for aid for their children which can include welfare, public education, etc.

Illegal aliens also have access to free healthcare. It's no wonder our health care system is in such a stand state and many hospitals are in the red. It's because illegal aliens flood the emergency rooms, provide fake names, SSN's etc and get free healthcare.

What does "many" mean? Have you actually seen this happen, or are you just choosing to believe that "many" people do it because Lou Dobbs told you so?

Anonymous wrote:

Not the PP, but you clearly do not get it. Slavery and segregation were legal, while abortion was illegal. So laws can and do change over time. Our immigration laws have changed multiple times. Who knows what the law will be in 20 years?

I am not against immigration, legal or illegal. They are seeking the same opportunities my fore fathers did (who came here before there was a "USA" and therefore no immigration laws). I know that illegal immigration does hurt some - like legal construction workers who don't get hired because they want to be paid more than an illegal. My response? Go into an industry that pays more. Construction work (most of it) is manual labor that requires little skill, and therefore is (and should be) low paying. Illegals also pay many taxes - they rent apartments and homes, so property taxes are paid for through their rent, they pay sales tax on almost everything they buy, gasoline tax... all that is missing is income tax. And most make so little, they wouldn't have any income tax. To get financial assistance, you need a SSN. They don't have one. So more than likely they are not getting any government assistance.

You are incorrect and misinformed. Many illegals do get government assistance...by way of their anchor babies. The child is considered a US citizen (I strongly disagree with this) and as such is given a SSN. The parent can apply for aid for their children which can include welfare, public education, etc.

Illegal aliens also have access to free healthcare. It's no wonder our health care system is in such a stand state and many hospitals are in the red. It's because illegal aliens flood the emergency rooms, provide fake names, SSN's etc and get free healthcare.

Anonymous wrote:

Not the PP, but you clearly do not get it. Slavery and segregation were legal, while abortion was illegal. So laws can and do change over time. Our immigration laws have changed multiple times. Who knows what the law will be in 20 years?

I am not against immigration, legal or illegal. They are seeking the same opportunities my fore fathers did (who came here before there was a "USA" and therefore no immigration laws). I know that illegal immigration does hurt some - like legal construction workers who don't get hired because they want to be paid more than an illegal. My response? Go into an industry that pays more. Construction work (most of it) is manual labor that requires little skill, and therefore is (and should be) low paying. Illegals also pay many taxes - they rent apartments and homes, so property taxes are paid for through their rent, they pay sales tax on almost everything they buy, gasoline tax... all that is missing is income tax. And most make so little, they wouldn't have any income tax. To get financial assistance, you need a SSN. They don't have one. So more than likely they are not getting any government assistance.

You are incorrect and misinformed. Many illegals do get government assistance...by way of their anchor babies. The child is considered a US citizen (I strongly disagree with this) and as such is given a SSN. The parent can apply for aid for their children which can include welfare, public education, etc.

Illegal aliens also have access to free healthcare. It's no wonder our health care system is in such a stand state and many hospitals are in the red. It's because illegal aliens flood the emergency rooms, provide fake names, SSN's etc and get free healthcare.

Not the PP, but you clearly do not get it. Slavery and segregation were legal, while abortion was illegal. So laws can and do change over time. Our immigration laws have changed multiple times. Who knows what the law will be in 20 years?

I am not against immigration, legal or illegal. They are seeking the same opportunities my fore fathers did (who came here before there was a "USA" and therefore no immigration laws). I know that illegal immigration does hurt some - like legal construction workers who don't get hired because they want to be paid more than an illegal. My response? Go into an industry that pays more. Construction work (most of it) is manual labor that requires little skill, and therefore is (and should be) low paying. Illegals also pay many taxes - they rent apartments and homes, so property taxes are paid for through their rent, they pay sales tax on almost everything they buy, gasoline tax... all that is missing is income tax. And most make so little, they wouldn't have any income tax. To get financial assistance, you need a SSN. They don't have one. So more than likely they are not getting any government assistance.

Anonymous wrote:

Sadly, then you couldn't get it. We have all kinds of laws that we must abide by, immigration is just one area.


I'm really glad that not all people think like you. Or else we'd still have slavery, segregation, and women without access to birth control dying from back-alley abortions.

How does expecting people to enter this country legally (even if they are hard-working upstanding citizens of their country of birth) and thus abide by our laws equate to sanctioning slavery, segregation, abortion, etc? You sound like an idiot.