If HOCO wants to claim they and their younger teams are the real deal, their summer tournament schedules year after year are a funny way to show it. Why does HOCO go to tournaments like Apex Summer Launch, where the field is, to put it kindly, middling or lower level B teams? Any A team could come away the champions. HOCO director seems disillusioned that people are impressed with medals from these random tournaments no real teams go to.

2034s: We’re the best team in the world and no one can stop us.
Also 2034s: Winning rando tournaments by playing a field of the worst teams in the Mid-Atlantic.

Talking to you too 2033s and 2035s.

Why?

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah and I have to say, we got trounced by Hoco but when my daughter came off the field, she said, “they were actually really nice, a lot nicer than some of the other teams.”

I'm pretty sure i would only believe about 10% if that of any wild crazy stuff you read on this forum. Lol.

Yeah, no way that story is true. The crazy HOCO 34 coach teaches her girls to growl and bark like dogs at the other team. No one is leaving the field thinking they are nice girls

It is true, I can assure you. Ive never heard HOCO bark, but I have heard FLC defenders bark and scream.

Anonymous wrote:HoCo 34 will not fade or fall off. Watch and see. Why would players leave the number 1 team in the country for clubs whose teams suck in their age group?

Rumor has it HoCo 2033, ranked #7 in the country, is already falling apart so you just wait.

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Anonymous wrote:Would echo that it is HIGHLY unlikely that a team being good in 4th grade is predictive of future success. Looking back on my HS age daughter’s year, many dominant teams (including HoCo) faded away, and I’d say about 2/3’s of the girls who were “the best” back then are no longer - either because other girls surpassed them or they quit. And as PP pointed out, come middle and HS years, teams stay at the top by continuing to draw top talent, which HoCo will not.

Girls will leave and it will happen sooner than you think because parents worry if they don’t get onto X team or into Y event early on, the door will close, and in many cases they are correct.

These claims seem to be in conflict

I think you are misreading, his HS daughters age group when they were in 3rd 4th grade is what he is referring to

Anonymous wrote:HoCo 34 will not fade or fall off. Watch and see. Why would players leave the number 1 team in the country for clubs whose teams suck in their age group?

#1 team of 9 year old lacrosse players in the country?! Ha! I'm sure they are impressive at this age, but...

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Anonymous wrote:Would echo that it is HIGHLY unlikely that a team being good in 4th grade is predictive of future success. Looking back on my HS age daughter’s year, many dominant teams (including HoCo) faded away, and I’d say about 2/3’s of the girls who were “the best” back then are no longer - either because other girls surpassed them or they quit. And as PP pointed out, come middle and HS years, teams stay at the top by continuing to draw top talent, which HoCo will not.

Girls will leave and it will happen sooner than you think because parents worry if they don’t get onto X team or into Y event early on, the door will close, and in many cases they are correct.

These claims seem to be in conflict

Not really

HoCo 34 will not fade or fall off. Watch and see. Why would players leave the number 1 team in the country for clubs whose teams suck in their age group?

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Anonymous wrote:Would echo that it is HIGHLY unlikely that a team being good in 4th grade is predictive of future success. Looking back on my HS age daughter’s year, many dominant teams (including HoCo) faded away, and I’d say about 2/3’s of the girls who were “the best” back then are no longer - either because other girls surpassed them or they quit. And as PP pointed out, come middle and HS years, teams stay at the top by continuing to draw top talent, which HoCo will not.

Girls will leave and it will happen sooner than you think because parents worry if they don’t get onto X team or into Y event early on, the door will close, and in many cases they are correct.

These claims seem to be in conflict

They're not in conflict. Teams fade at different rates - HoCo faded early while others like Pride and Coppermine took a little longer.

You parents and coaches of the 2034s have embarrassed the sport and your clubs with your behavior. You guys are giving lacrosse a bad name.

Anonymous wrote:Would echo that it is HIGHLY unlikely that a team being good in 4th grade is predictive of future success. Looking back on my HS age daughter’s year, many dominant teams (including HoCo) faded away, and I’d say about 2/3’s of the girls who were “the best” back then are no longer - either because other girls surpassed them or they quit. And as PP pointed out, come middle and HS years, teams stay at the top by continuing to draw top talent, which HoCo will not.

Girls will leave and it will happen sooner than you think because parents worry if they don’t get onto X team or into Y event early on, the door will close, and in many cases they are correct.

These claims seem to be in conflict

Anonymous wrote:HoCo 34 has 3-5 Tewaaraton finalists currently on their roster.

Keep hating but one day you will be asking for their autographs.

Can this dude stop pretending like he’s a Hoco parent, or trying to mock them? Either way it’s annoying to everyone—and not clever or entertaining. It’s dumb and very tired.

HoCo 34 has 3-5 Tewaaraton finalists currently on their roster.

Keep hating but one day you will be asking for their autographs.

Would echo that it is HIGHLY unlikely that a team being good in 4th grade is predictive of future success. Looking back on my HS age daughter’s year, many dominant teams (including HoCo) faded away, and I’d say about 2/3’s of the girls who were “the best” back then are no longer - either because other girls surpassed them or they quit. And as PP pointed out, come middle and HS years, teams stay at the top by continuing to draw top talent, which HoCo will not.

Girls will leave and it will happen sooner than you think because parents worry if they don’t get onto X team or into Y event early on, the door will close, and in many cases they are correct.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are a HoCo parent, not smart to burn bridges when zero chance you’re planning on staying at Hoco.

Can someone explain this to me?

HoCo is not competitive with top clubs as girls get older. Players will leave for clubs like Heros, M&D, MDU, Capital, etc who field better teams and play against the better competition. For the most part, HoCo continues to field teams, but they are less and less competitive as the girls get older.

Could they not just plan ahead and plan to play better competition in a few years so everyone stays, or is there some sort of weird gatekeeping that locks them out?

I don’t know about that but noting that even the 2034 team and 2033 and 2035 teams are scheduled for weak tournaments where the competition is B/C level. Lax Splash. Lax Amplified. Beach Lax. All the top A teams in our region are elsewhere. Why - - because they like to be champions or because the club has connections at these tournaments they don’t want to break? Not sure.

There are other big reasons why this team is very unlikely to stay together. Ego and paranoia of parents and kids aside, it’s recruiting. Hoco, based on being a low level club, has not developed the recruiting experience, expertise, capabilities, connections, trust, etc. that perpetual Top 3 clubs in the nation have (Hero’s and M&D). Their recruiting is that of a 90th ranked club. No proven track record for parents to have confidence or place faith in. Look at the hoco website’s Commitments page.

The 2034s would = the first top team the club has ever had come 9th grade.

[If they continue to be a top team. M&D and Hero’s will start consolidating talent to compete more effectively. Hoco is unlikely to improve by pulling top talent. Also Question mark if the girls will be as standout at age 14 as age 10. A lot changes with growth and puberty. Wrong to assume the top girl at age 10 is going to be top years later and destined for UNC. naive.]

Speaking DCUM language, you want to be the most expensive house in the neighborhood by far? Want to hire a realtor to sell your $3m Potomac home who has only sold $400k homes in Highlandtown Baltimore City or $200k condos in Essex?

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Anonymous wrote:This board is full of haters and losers. Your daughters aren't talented enough to play for HOCO 34. Get over it.

Seriously, HoCo? It’s not even a B club, it’s a C club. Talent must be great in Howard county when Hoco has a good team, M&D & Hero’s going to be a force in a few years at 2034 level.

It’s not Howard County talent. Majority of the team if not the whole team is from Carroll County.

Don’t those kids go to Check Hers?

Alot of Carroll County girls play for M&D and Hero’s. CheckHers is mixed in but parents usually go for the bigger names bc of future recruiting. Hero’s and M&D do an amazing job with all the college stuff for the girls.