This back and forth is just about Mid Major Parents feeling insecure. I don't know why they feel the need to put anyone down who wants to go DIII rather than mid major D1. Like, nobody ever said my DD is a better player than yours. Only, my DD wants to go to a good academic school over playing D1. Nobody has said DIII is a higher soccer level than D1 and if they did, the are incredibly ignorant. If some of you mid-major D1 parents think Seton Hall is a better Academic school than Vassar, you are just as ignorant. If you insulting a kid or family choosing an Academic DIII over a mediocre mid major Academic D1, calling it wasted, or meaningless, your are the most ignorant of all.

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- The d1 vs d3 thing was all 😳

- This is a soccer thread & why we all come here. What this sub forum is not is one discussing education.

- With that said if you are playing at Arlington, Bethesda, Fairfax Union, MD United, NVA, Richmond United, VDA or VRSC it’s your goal & dream to play d1. Anything beneath that soccer wise is a bust. Players playing & spending less on ECNL RL, EDP, GA Aspire or NCSL are making d3 rosters without spending as much & traveling.

- One doesn’t get treated the same playing d1 as they d2 or d3.

- Strictly talking soccer and not academics.

Sorry but you strike me as Al Bundy/Uncle Rico type. Sports is life. Der.

Some of us are looking to optimize sports and academics. I also seriously doubt you actually know much about D3, but why would you I guess. Wash U roster is loaded. GA and ECNL members that could have played almost anywhere. One was on the Canadian National team for u17. But you wouldn't have a clue about that.

I dont get why people get so hung up on D1. A third of freshmen girls entered the portal. Want to guess how many did in D3?

But you enjoy the job prospects of a Coppin State or Arkansas Pine Bluff degree while the Canadian National Team member majors in data science at Wash U 🤣

As Judge Smails so appropriately put it, the world needs ditch diggers too.............

4 years vs 40 my friends.........

this is a soccer forum dummy. You are just deflecting. If your kid is smart enough to get into a academic school they are obviously going there for education and soccer is a bonus. Sorry D3 soccer isnt an accomplishment or flex. And likely you are paying for that expensive education.

??? You don't think playing D3 college soccer is an accomplishment? This is an absolutely asinine take.

d3 is absolutely an accomplishment

no it’s not. Anyone with club experience can make a D3 team somewhere in the country. But same poster keeps making this about academics. At that point it’s not about soccer it’s about education. So i would expect you are picking schools based off and not basing it off where you can play meaningless D3 soccer.

Correct. It’s one poster over and over again, while many chime in on how in the eyes of the world d3 is a failure for sports.

It’s obvious their DD is a 2026 or 2027 with no Division 1 offers so they are trying to make this about academics. Surprised we haven’t heard the other common excuses, she wants a small school or she wants to stay close to home.

They can’t grasp that as far as soccer goes their DD failed them. All the time and money spent on club soccer for nothing. The poster obviously has anger at this and is trying to cope.

We get it she is very smart but if she was that good at soccer she would be committed to an Ivy, if your true belief was academics first!

I'm not sure if you're trolling or not? If not, D1 is a failure as well if the player doesn't go on to play professionally, in the Olympics, or the World Cup. All that money for it to come to an end in four short years, then she's no different than any other college grad.

Money awarded to DI athlete > money awarded to DIII athlete

If money is an issue, I can see the appeal. If a family has money saved for an Academic school, than that is a weak arguement. Johns Hopkins > Florida Gulf Coast. By 1000 miles. I'm paying the difference.

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- The d1 vs d3 thing was all 😳

- This is a soccer thread & why we all come here. What this sub forum is not is one discussing education.

- With that said if you are playing at Arlington, Bethesda, Fairfax Union, MD United, NVA, Richmond United, VDA or VRSC it’s your goal & dream to play d1. Anything beneath that soccer wise is a bust. Players playing & spending less on ECNL RL, EDP, GA Aspire or NCSL are making d3 rosters without spending as much & traveling.

- One doesn’t get treated the same playing d1 as they d2 or d3.

- Strictly talking soccer and not academics.

Sorry but you strike me as Al Bundy/Uncle Rico type. Sports is life. Der.

Some of us are looking to optimize sports and academics. I also seriously doubt you actually know much about D3, but why would you I guess. Wash U roster is loaded. GA and ECNL members that could have played almost anywhere. One was on the Canadian National team for u17. But you wouldn't have a clue about that.

I dont get why people get so hung up on D1. A third of freshmen girls entered the portal. Want to guess how many did in D3?

But you enjoy the job prospects of a Coppin State or Arkansas Pine Bluff degree while the Canadian National Team member majors in data science at Wash U 🤣

As Judge Smails so appropriately put it, the world needs ditch diggers too.............

4 years vs 40 my friends.........

this is a soccer forum dummy. You are just deflecting. If your kid is smart enough to get into a academic school they are obviously going there for education and soccer is a bonus. Sorry D3 soccer isnt an accomplishment or flex. And likely you are paying for that expensive education.

??? You don't think playing D3 college soccer is an accomplishment? This is an absolutely asinine take.

d3 is absolutely an accomplishment

no it’s not. Anyone with club experience can make a D3 team somewhere in the country. But same poster keeps making this about academics. At that point it’s not about soccer it’s about education. So i would expect you are picking schools based off and not basing it off where you can play meaningless D3 soccer.

Correct. It’s one poster over and over again, while many chime in on how in the eyes of the world d3 is a failure for sports.

It’s obvious their DD is a 2026 or 2027 with no Division 1 offers so they are trying to make this about academics. Surprised we haven’t heard the other common excuses, she wants a small school or she wants to stay close to home.

They can’t grasp that as far as soccer goes their DD failed them. All the time and money spent on club soccer for nothing. The poster obviously has anger at this and is trying to cope.

We get it she is very smart but if she was that good at soccer she would be committed to an Ivy, if your true belief was academics first!

I'm not sure if you're trolling or not? If not, D1 is a failure as well if the player doesn't go on to play professionally, in the Olympics, or the World Cup. All that money for it to come to an end in four short years, then she's no different than any other college grad.

Money awarded to DI athlete > money awarded to DIII athlete

I'm guessing you hit submit before making your point?

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- The d1 vs d3 thing was all 😳

- This is a soccer thread & why we all come here. What this sub forum is not is one discussing education.

- With that said if you are playing at Arlington, Bethesda, Fairfax Union, MD United, NVA, Richmond United, VDA or VRSC it’s your goal & dream to play d1. Anything beneath that soccer wise is a bust. Players playing & spending less on ECNL RL, EDP, GA Aspire or NCSL are making d3 rosters without spending as much & traveling.

- One doesn’t get treated the same playing d1 as they d2 or d3.

- Strictly talking soccer and not academics.

Sorry but you strike me as Al Bundy/Uncle Rico type. Sports is life. Der.

Some of us are looking to optimize sports and academics. I also seriously doubt you actually know much about D3, but why would you I guess. Wash U roster is loaded. GA and ECNL members that could have played almost anywhere. One was on the Canadian National team for u17. But you wouldn't have a clue about that.

I dont get why people get so hung up on D1. A third of freshmen girls entered the portal. Want to guess how many did in D3?

But you enjoy the job prospects of a Coppin State or Arkansas Pine Bluff degree while the Canadian National Team member majors in data science at Wash U 🤣

As Judge Smails so appropriately put it, the world needs ditch diggers too.............

4 years vs 40 my friends.........

this is a soccer forum dummy. You are just deflecting. If your kid is smart enough to get into a academic school they are obviously going there for education and soccer is a bonus. Sorry D3 soccer isnt an accomplishment or flex. And likely you are paying for that expensive education.

??? You don't think playing D3 college soccer is an accomplishment? This is an absolutely asinine take.

d3 is absolutely an accomplishment

no its not. Anyone with club experience can make a D3 team somewhere in the country. But same poster keeps making this about academics. At that point its not about soccer its about education. So i would expect you are picking schools based off and not basing it off where you can play meaningless D3 soccer.

I would argue that all soccer levels are meaningless if they dont somehow funnel into playing professionally.

From there I would argue that playing professionally for a league with salary caps (like mls + nwsl) is meaningless.

You don’t see any benefit to playing college sports?

They are replying to the post earlier where PP said anything outside of D1 is meaningless. Whether D1, DII, DIII, it all means the students have a great work ethic if and only if they graduate with good grades. A kid who graduates from Washington and Lee with a 4.0 while playing soccer is going to get into a Ivy League graduate school over the kid from Syracuse with a 3.0. Law School and Med School don't care about soccer accomplishments. They care about the Academic level of the school and the GPA only.

On a soccer level however, all of it doesn't mean anything unless going to Pro level, which is your highly successful D1 players, meaning All-Conference and All-American. On that level, you are a talking a maximum of maybe five players per age group from the entire DMV including Baltimore and Richmond that make the cut. Perhaps those 5 can play in NWSL or over seas and make minimum pay. I think that is roughly a fair number based on the current Freshman, maybe a couple more. One could argue anything outside that is "meaningless" soccer. I mean really think about that. Just because your kid plays for VDA does not mean your kid is one of the top 10 in VA, MD, DE, and WV. If your child is on the USYNT, than sure, but what, we have 4 or four of them at most, and not all at the same camps. Your DD is not Trinity Rodman, Rose Lavelle, Sophia Smith, etc. On top of that the players I just mentioned are from different age groups.

Look, to be clear, I get P4. Have no gripes with P4. Most P4s have high Academic standards. Getting the percs that come along with it. I get it. But your standard Towson, UMBC, Duquesne, and many many mid-majors that are not well known for Academics, that is what I am talking about vs. the DIII Johns Hopkins type schools vs the previously mentioned D1 schools.

Accomplishment in my POV- Duke, Stanford, FSU, and almost all P4s...however, some players are going to learn the hard way that they did not belong on this level and end up transferring to mediocre mid majors. Their parents were P4 or bust, ignoring what really mattered. These are usually players that don't start on good ECNL teams and are recruited for just being on that good ECNL team, surrounded by players that make them look better than what they are. Meanwhile, schools like VT recruit them, put them through hell where they end up quitting all together or transferring. Now, on the brightside, it is an accomplishment as they got into to VT for soccer and benefit from the VT Academics moving forward.

No legs to stand on, putting DIII players and families down - Any D1s accepting more than 50% of its applicants including Big East Schools like St. John's and Seton Hall. Your kid is not special. Schools like these are not even in the same discussion as Johns Hopkins. The top players at WashU or Emory could just as easily play in the Big East if they wanted to. I've seen so many coach interviews saying exactly that over the years. Top DIIIs can compete with mid majors day in and day out. If you are a parent trying to justify a mid major D1 experience over top of an Ivy level education, your priorities are wrong. if your kid doesn't have perfect grades or maybe not as intelligent as others, than going to a Towson or Seton Hall might make sense. Also, if your college tuition is mostly paid for, 100% nothing wrong about going to one of those mid major schools. In the end however, a player going to a Johns Hopkins and playing soccer is going to have a MAJOR advantage over a player coming out of Appalachian State or Butler University. Don't hate the player, hate the complete well rounded athletic and academic game.

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- The d1 vs d3 thing was all 😳

- This is a soccer thread & why we all come here. What this sub forum is not is one discussing education.

- With that said if you are playing at Arlington, Bethesda, Fairfax Union, MD United, NVA, Richmond United, VDA or VRSC it’s your goal & dream to play d1. Anything beneath that soccer wise is a bust. Players playing & spending less on ECNL RL, EDP, GA Aspire or NCSL are making d3 rosters without spending as much & traveling.

- One doesn’t get treated the same playing d1 as they d2 or d3.

- Strictly talking soccer and not academics.

Sorry but you strike me as Al Bundy/Uncle Rico type. Sports is life. Der.

Some of us are looking to optimize sports and academics. I also seriously doubt you actually know much about D3, but why would you I guess. Wash U roster is loaded. GA and ECNL members that could have played almost anywhere. One was on the Canadian National team for u17. But you wouldn't have a clue about that.

I dont get why people get so hung up on D1. A third of freshmen girls entered the portal. Want to guess how many did in D3?

But you enjoy the job prospects of a Coppin State or Arkansas Pine Bluff degree while the Canadian National Team member majors in data science at Wash U 🤣

As Judge Smails so appropriately put it, the world needs ditch diggers too.............

4 years vs 40 my friends.........

this is a soccer forum dummy. You are just deflecting. If your kid is smart enough to get into a academic school they are obviously going there for education and soccer is a bonus. Sorry D3 soccer isnt an accomplishment or flex. And likely you are paying for that expensive education.

??? You don't think playing D3 college soccer is an accomplishment? This is an absolutely asinine take.

d3 is absolutely an accomplishment

no it’s not. Anyone with club experience can make a D3 team somewhere in the country. But same poster keeps making this about academics. At that point it’s not about soccer it’s about education. So i would expect you are picking schools based off and not basing it off where you can play meaningless D3 soccer.

Correct. It’s one poster over and over again, while many chime in on how in the eyes of the world d3 is a failure for sports.

It’s obvious their DD is a 2026 or 2027 with no Division 1 offers so they are trying to make this about academics. Surprised we haven’t heard the other common excuses, she wants a small school or she wants to stay close to home.

They can’t grasp that as far as soccer goes their DD failed them. All the time and money spent on club soccer for nothing. The poster obviously has anger at this and is trying to cope.

We get it she is very smart but if she was that good at soccer she would be committed to an Ivy, if your true belief was academics first!

I'm not sure if you're trolling or not? If not, D1 is a failure as well if the player doesn't go on to play professionally, in the Olympics, or the World Cup. All that money for it to come to an end in four short years, then she's no different than any other college grad.

Money awarded to DI athlete > money awarded to DIII athlete

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- The d1 vs d3 thing was all 😳

- This is a soccer thread & why we all come here. What this sub forum is not is one discussing education.

- With that said if you are playing at Arlington, Bethesda, Fairfax Union, MD United, NVA, Richmond United, VDA or VRSC it’s your goal & dream to play d1. Anything beneath that soccer wise is a bust. Players playing & spending less on ECNL RL, EDP, GA Aspire or NCSL are making d3 rosters without spending as much & traveling.

- One doesn’t get treated the same playing d1 as they d2 or d3.

- Strictly talking soccer and not academics.

Sorry but you strike me as Al Bundy/Uncle Rico type. Sports is life. Der.

Some of us are looking to optimize sports and academics. I also seriously doubt you actually know much about D3, but why would you I guess. Wash U roster is loaded. GA and ECNL members that could have played almost anywhere. One was on the Canadian National team for u17. But you wouldn't have a clue about that.

I dont get why people get so hung up on D1. A third of freshmen girls entered the portal. Want to guess how many did in D3?

But you enjoy the job prospects of a Coppin State or Arkansas Pine Bluff degree while the Canadian National Team member majors in data science at Wash U 🤣

As Judge Smails so appropriately put it, the world needs ditch diggers too.............

4 years vs 40 my friends.........

this is a soccer forum dummy. You are just deflecting. If your kid is smart enough to get into a academic school they are obviously going there for education and soccer is a bonus. Sorry D3 soccer isnt an accomplishment or flex. And likely you are paying for that expensive education.

??? You don't think playing D3 college soccer is an accomplishment? This is an absolutely asinine take.

d3 is absolutely an accomplishment

no its not. Anyone with club experience can make a D3 team somewhere in the country. But same poster keeps making this about academics. At that point its not about soccer its about education. So i would expect you are picking schools based off and not basing it off where you can play meaningless D3 soccer.

I would argue that all soccer levels are meaningless if they dont somehow funnel into playing professionally.

From there I would argue that playing professionally for a league with salary caps (like mls + nwsl) is meaningless.

You don’t see any benefit to playing college sports?

No, I think every level of soccer is an achievement.

Just pointing out how dumb the D1 only mindset is. Unless you're playing at the highest level there will always be someone "better" than you are.

Exactly. D1 isn't the pinnacle. It's just another level on the pyramid that most will deadend at.

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- The d1 vs d3 thing was all 😳

- This is a soccer thread & why we all come here. What this sub forum is not is one discussing education.

- With that said if you are playing at Arlington, Bethesda, Fairfax Union, MD United, NVA, Richmond United, VDA or VRSC it’s your goal & dream to play d1. Anything beneath that soccer wise is a bust. Players playing & spending less on ECNL RL, EDP, GA Aspire or NCSL are making d3 rosters without spending as much & traveling.

- One doesn’t get treated the same playing d1 as they d2 or d3.

- Strictly talking soccer and not academics.

Sorry but you strike me as Al Bundy/Uncle Rico type. Sports is life. Der.

Some of us are looking to optimize sports and academics. I also seriously doubt you actually know much about D3, but why would you I guess. Wash U roster is loaded. GA and ECNL members that could have played almost anywhere. One was on the Canadian National team for u17. But you wouldn't have a clue about that.

I dont get why people get so hung up on D1. A third of freshmen girls entered the portal. Want to guess how many did in D3?

But you enjoy the job prospects of a Coppin State or Arkansas Pine Bluff degree while the Canadian National Team member majors in data science at Wash U 🤣

As Judge Smails so appropriately put it, the world needs ditch diggers too.............

4 years vs 40 my friends.........

this is a soccer forum dummy. You are just deflecting. If your kid is smart enough to get into a academic school they are obviously going there for education and soccer is a bonus. Sorry D3 soccer isnt an accomplishment or flex. And likely you are paying for that expensive education.

??? You don't think playing D3 college soccer is an accomplishment? This is an absolutely asinine take.

d3 is absolutely an accomplishment

no its not. Anyone with club experience can make a D3 team somewhere in the country. But same poster keeps making this about academics. At that point its not about soccer its about education. So i would expect you are picking schools based off and not basing it off where you can play meaningless D3 soccer.

I would argue that all soccer levels are meaningless if they dont somehow funnel into playing professionally.

From there I would argue that playing professionally for a league with salary caps (like mls + nwsl) is meaningless.

You don’t see any benefit to playing college sports?

No, I think every level of soccer is an achievement.

Just pointing out how dumb the D1 only mindset is. Unless you're playing at the highest level there will always be someone "better" than you are.

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- The d1 vs d3 thing was all 😳

- This is a soccer thread & why we all come here. What this sub forum is not is one discussing education.

- With that said if you are playing at Arlington, Bethesda, Fairfax Union, MD United, NVA, Richmond United, VDA or VRSC it’s your goal & dream to play d1. Anything beneath that soccer wise is a bust. Players playing & spending less on ECNL RL, EDP, GA Aspire or NCSL are making d3 rosters without spending as much & traveling.

- One doesn’t get treated the same playing d1 as they d2 or d3.

- Strictly talking soccer and not academics.

Sorry but you strike me as Al Bundy/Uncle Rico type. Sports is life. Der.

Some of us are looking to optimize sports and academics. I also seriously doubt you actually know much about D3, but why would you I guess. Wash U roster is loaded. GA and ECNL members that could have played almost anywhere. One was on the Canadian National team for u17. But you wouldn't have a clue about that.

I dont get why people get so hung up on D1. A third of freshmen girls entered the portal. Want to guess how many did in D3?

But you enjoy the job prospects of a Coppin State or Arkansas Pine Bluff degree while the Canadian National Team member majors in data science at Wash U 🤣

As Judge Smails so appropriately put it, the world needs ditch diggers too.............

4 years vs 40 my friends.........

this is a soccer forum dummy. You are just deflecting. If your kid is smart enough to get into a academic school they are obviously going there for education and soccer is a bonus. Sorry D3 soccer isnt an accomplishment or flex. And likely you are paying for that expensive education.

??? You don't think playing D3 college soccer is an accomplishment? This is an absolutely asinine take.

d3 is absolutely an accomplishment

no it’s not. Anyone with club experience can make a D3 team somewhere in the country. But same poster keeps making this about academics. At that point it’s not about soccer it’s about education. So i would expect you are picking schools based off and not basing it off where you can play meaningless D3 soccer.

Correct. It’s one poster over and over again, while many chime in on how in the eyes of the world d3 is a failure for sports.

It’s obvious their DD is a 2026 or 2027 with no Division 1 offers so they are trying to make this about academics. Surprised we haven’t heard the other common excuses, she wants a small school or she wants to stay close to home.

They can’t grasp that as far as soccer goes their DD failed them. All the time and money spent on club soccer for nothing. The poster obviously has anger at this and is trying to cope.

We get it she is very smart but if she was that good at soccer she would be committed to an Ivy, if your true belief was academics first!

I'm not sure if you're trolling or not? If not, D1 is a failure as well if the player doesn't go on to play professionally, in the Olympics, or the World Cup. All that money for it to come to an end in four short years, then she's no different than any other college grad.

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- The d1 vs d3 thing was all 😳

- This is a soccer thread & why we all come here. What this sub forum is not is one discussing education.

- With that said if you are playing at Arlington, Bethesda, Fairfax Union, MD United, NVA, Richmond United, VDA or VRSC it’s your goal & dream to play d1. Anything beneath that soccer wise is a bust. Players playing & spending less on ECNL RL, EDP, GA Aspire or NCSL are making d3 rosters without spending as much & traveling.

- One doesn’t get treated the same playing d1 as they d2 or d3.

- Strictly talking soccer and not academics.

Sorry but you strike me as Al Bundy/Uncle Rico type. Sports is life. Der.

Some of us are looking to optimize sports and academics. I also seriously doubt you actually know much about D3, but why would you I guess. Wash U roster is loaded. GA and ECNL members that could have played almost anywhere. One was on the Canadian National team for u17. But you wouldn't have a clue about that.

I dont get why people get so hung up on D1. A third of freshmen girls entered the portal. Want to guess how many did in D3?

But you enjoy the job prospects of a Coppin State or Arkansas Pine Bluff degree while the Canadian National Team member majors in data science at Wash U 🤣

As Judge Smails so appropriately put it, the world needs ditch diggers too.............

4 years vs 40 my friends.........

this is a soccer forum dummy. You are just deflecting. If your kid is smart enough to get into a academic school they are obviously going there for education and soccer is a bonus. Sorry D3 soccer isnt an accomplishment or flex. And likely you are paying for that expensive education.

??? You don't think playing D3 college soccer is an accomplishment? This is an absolutely asinine take.

d3 is absolutely an accomplishment

no it’s not. Anyone with club experience can make a D3 team somewhere in the country. But same poster keeps making this about academics. At that point it’s not about soccer it’s about education. So i would expect you are picking schools based off and not basing it off where you can play meaningless D3 soccer.

Correct. It’s one poster over and over again, while many chime in on how in the eyes of the world d3 is a failure for sports.

It’s obvious their DD is a 2026 or 2027 with no Division 1 offers so they are trying to make this about academics. Surprised we haven’t heard the other common excuses, she wants a small school or she wants to stay close to home.

They can’t grasp that as far as soccer goes their DD failed them. All the time and money spent on club soccer for nothing. The poster obviously has anger at this and is trying to cope.

We get it she is very smart but if she was that good at soccer she would be committed to an Ivy, if your true belief was academics first!

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- The d1 vs d3 thing was all 😳

- This is a soccer thread & why we all come here. What this sub forum is not is one discussing education.

- With that said if you are playing at Arlington, Bethesda, Fairfax Union, MD United, NVA, Richmond United, VDA or VRSC it’s your goal & dream to play d1. Anything beneath that soccer wise is a bust. Players playing & spending less on ECNL RL, EDP, GA Aspire or NCSL are making d3 rosters without spending as much & traveling.

- One doesn’t get treated the same playing d1 as they d2 or d3.

- Strictly talking soccer and not academics.

Sorry but you strike me as Al Bundy/Uncle Rico type. Sports is life. Der.

Some of us are looking to optimize sports and academics. I also seriously doubt you actually know much about D3, but why would you I guess. Wash U roster is loaded. GA and ECNL members that could have played almost anywhere. One was on the Canadian National team for u17. But you wouldn't have a clue about that.

I dont get why people get so hung up on D1. A third of freshmen girls entered the portal. Want to guess how many did in D3?

But you enjoy the job prospects of a Coppin State or Arkansas Pine Bluff degree while the Canadian National Team member majors in data science at Wash U 🤣

As Judge Smails so appropriately put it, the world needs ditch diggers too.............

4 years vs 40 my friends.........

this is a soccer forum dummy. You are just deflecting. If your kid is smart enough to get into a academic school they are obviously going there for education and soccer is a bonus. Sorry D3 soccer isnt an accomplishment or flex. And likely you are paying for that expensive education.

??? You don't think playing D3 college soccer is an accomplishment? This is an absolutely asinine take.

d3 is absolutely an accomplishment

no its not. Anyone with club experience can make a D3 team somewhere in the country. But same poster keeps making this about academics. At that point its not about soccer its about education. So i would expect you are picking schools based off and not basing it off where you can play meaningless D3 soccer.

I would argue that all soccer levels are meaningless if they dont somehow funnel into playing professionally.

From there I would argue that playing professionally for a league with salary caps (like mls + nwsl) is meaningless.

You don’t see any benefit to playing college sports?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
- The d1 vs d3 thing was all 😳

- This is a soccer thread & why we all come here. What this sub forum is not is one discussing education.

- With that said if you are playing at Arlington, Bethesda, Fairfax Union, MD United, NVA, Richmond United, VDA or VRSC it’s your goal & dream to play d1. Anything beneath that soccer wise is a bust. Players playing & spending less on ECNL RL, EDP, GA Aspire or NCSL are making d3 rosters without spending as much & traveling.

- One doesn’t get treated the same playing d1 as they d2 or d3.

- Strictly talking soccer and not academics.

Sorry but you strike me as Al Bundy/Uncle Rico type. Sports is life. Der.

Some of us are looking to optimize sports and academics. I also seriously doubt you actually know much about D3, but why would you I guess. Wash U roster is loaded. GA and ECNL members that could have played almost anywhere. One was on the Canadian National team for u17. But you wouldn't have a clue about that.

I dont get why people get so hung up on D1. A third of freshmen girls entered the portal. Want to guess how many did in D3?

But you enjoy the job prospects of a Coppin State or Arkansas Pine Bluff degree while the Canadian National Team member majors in data science at Wash U 🤣

As Judge Smails so appropriately put it, the world needs ditch diggers too.............

4 years vs 40 my friends.........

this is a soccer forum dummy. You are just deflecting. If your kid is smart enough to get into a academic school they are obviously going there for education and soccer is a bonus. Sorry D3 soccer isnt an accomplishment or flex. And likely you are paying for that expensive education.

??? You don't think playing D3 college soccer is an accomplishment? This is an absolutely asinine take.

d3 is absolutely an accomplishment

no its not. Anyone with club experience can make a D3 team somewhere in the country. But same poster keeps making this about academics. At that point its not about soccer its about education. So i would expect you are picking schools based off and not basing it off where you can play meaningless D3 soccer.

I would argue that all soccer levels are meaningless if they dont somehow funnel into playing professionally.

From there I would argue that playing professionally for a league with salary caps (like mls + nwsl) is meaningless.

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Anonymous wrote:Its not, more of accomplishment getting into an elite academic school like Amherst or Carnegie Mellon. If soccer helped than more power to you! Playing soccer is totally secondary at these types of schools; that often struggle to fill a full roster each year becuase these girls know that they chose the academic route and soccer will be secondary at best after academics and pre-professional college campus opportunities. No shade in these commments just calling a spade a spade. If you're on a D3 roster of after this club soccer rat race, its a failure. if you can "fail" into Amherst then you DD is going to be just fine and you can ignore this opinion. D3 aint all that tho if we are only talking about soccer. Fortunately most people aren't only concerned with soccer so lets relax on this and let people be happy with their outcomes

Those schools do not have trouble filling rosters. What a ridiculous comments. Those are highly sought after roster spots.

cough 40-50 kids prior to season. Highly sought because better chance of less talented making it.

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- The d1 vs d3 thing was all 😳

- This is a soccer thread & why we all come here. What this sub forum is not is one discussing education.

- With that said if you are playing at Arlington, Bethesda, Fairfax Union, MD United, NVA, Richmond United, VDA or VRSC it’s your goal & dream to play d1. Anything beneath that soccer wise is a bust. Players playing & spending less on ECNL RL, EDP, GA Aspire or NCSL are making d3 rosters without spending as much & traveling.

- One doesn’t get treated the same playing d1 as they d2 or d3.

- Strictly talking soccer and not academics.

Sorry but you strike me as Al Bundy/Uncle Rico type. Sports is life. Der.

Some of us are looking to optimize sports and academics. I also seriously doubt you actually know much about D3, but why would you I guess. Wash U roster is loaded. GA and ECNL members that could have played almost anywhere. One was on the Canadian National team for u17. But you wouldn't have a clue about that.

I dont get why people get so hung up on D1. A third of freshmen girls entered the portal. Want to guess how many did in D3?

But you enjoy the job prospects of a Coppin State or Arkansas Pine Bluff degree while the Canadian National Team member majors in data science at Wash U 🤣

As Judge Smails so appropriately put it, the world needs ditch diggers too.............

4 years vs 40 my friends.........

this is a soccer forum dummy. You are just deflecting. If your kid is smart enough to get into a academic school they are obviously going there for education and soccer is a bonus. Sorry D3 soccer isnt an accomplishment or flex. And likely you are paying for that expensive education.

??? You don't think playing D3 college soccer is an accomplishment? This is an absolutely asinine take.

d3 is absolutely an accomplishment

no its not. Anyone with club experience can make a D3 team somewhere in the country. But same poster keeps making this about academics. At that point its not about soccer its about education. So i would expect you are picking schools based off and not basing it off where you can play meaningless D3 soccer.

Anonymous wrote:Its not, more of accomplishment getting into an elite academic school like Amherst or Carnegie Mellon. If soccer helped than more power to you! Playing soccer is totally secondary at these types of schools; that often struggle to fill a full roster each year becuase these girls know that they chose the academic route and soccer will be secondary at best after academics and pre-professional college campus opportunities. No shade in these commments just calling a spade a spade. If you're on a D3 roster of after this club soccer rat race, its a failure. if you can "fail" into Amherst then you DD is going to be just fine and you can ignore this opinion. D3 aint all that tho if we are only talking about soccer. Fortunately most people aren't only concerned with soccer so lets relax on this and let people be happy with their outcomes

Those schools do not have trouble filling rosters. What a ridiculous comments. Those are highly sought after roster spots.

Sorry but playing DIII soccer at Carnegie Mellon is more of an accomplishment than playing Soccer at USC Upstate or pick 75% acceptance rate D1 School. I personally think that is a terrible mistake.