Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't point finger to a specific race group.

It's the ecosystem. The Regeneron, ISEF, science fair, ecosystem is totally corrupted right now. To win even the county level science fair competition, kids have to fabricate things up. They will use parents or parents' connection's lab. Wash some beakers, clean some data, then present PhD researcher's results as their own. T20, here I come.

Meanwhile, the schools inflate GPAs. Colleges don't care about rigors. Kids have to do ECs like "research" to pump up their resume.

More hating on science kids. Just have your kid do something else if they can hack doing science experiments.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, why is college so expensive in the first place? I couldn't care less if Jimmy’s mom—who happens to be a lab scientist—wrote his paper and paid $100,000 a year just for a name-brand degree. At this rate of job offshoring, by the time Jimmy graduates, both he and his mom might be out of a job.

OP here. The kid I started the thread about ia Indian. I can see this - this kid who cheated his way into Ivy then become CEOs and CTOs and outsources the science jobs to India.

Full circle.

lol Indians who attend high school and college in the US are very unlikely to outsource jobs to India.

Lol. They do it all day long.
Sundar Pichai went to Stanford by the way.

And Google doesn't outsource software to India. So you're proving their point.

I wouldn't point finger to a specific race group.

It's the ecosystem. The Regeneron, ISEF, science fair, ecosystem is totally corrupted right now. To win even the county level science fair competition, kids have to fabricate things up. They will use parents or parents' connection's lab. Wash some beakers, clean some data, then present PhD researcher's results as their own. T20, here I come.

Meanwhile, the schools inflate GPAs. Colleges don't care about rigors. Kids have to do ECs like "research" to pump up their resume.

For the Indian haters; note the following: the pro basketball league was once dominated by Jewish players, Irish in boxing, Germans in STEM, etc.

Each immigrant group tried to show their worth in this country. And in this age - for Asians the field is STEM. History tells us that this will be short-lived and another group will displace.

Every Indian feels the impact of the economy when jobs are lost; but any tech that is "old" get's outsourced that's why manufacturing doesn't exist anymore.

The economists say the true "American jobs" are the ones at the frontier; if you want your kid to be bullet proof stop looking into the past trends and look for the future trend. The research that exists in American Universities but not anywhere else in the world. I graduated with a CS degree when it was one of the smallest majors and no Asian wanted to touch it. The past trend was focus on Electrical Engineering which is where the top kids went.

You cannot pick and ship Silicon Valley or it would've been done by now. We have an entire breed of companies like ChatGPT all 100% USA, yet not many are qualified in this field. There are decades of new companies that will be built around LLMs but people grasp to CS and complain.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, why is college so expensive in the first place? I couldn't care less if Jimmy’s mom—who happens to be a lab scientist—wrote his paper and paid $100,000 a year just for a name-brand degree. At this rate of job offshoring, by the time Jimmy graduates, both he and his mom might be out of a job.

OP here. The kid I started the thread about ia Indian. I can see this - this kid who cheated his way into Ivy then become CEOs and CTOs and outsources the science jobs to India.

Full circle.

lol Indians who attend high school and college in the US are very unlikely to outsource jobs to India.

Lol. They do it all day long.
Sundar Pichai went to Stanford by the way.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, why is college so expensive in the first place? I couldn't care less if Jimmy’s mom—who happens to be a lab scientist—wrote his paper and paid $100,000 a year just for a name-brand degree. At this rate of job offshoring, by the time Jimmy graduates, both he and his mom might be out of a job.

OP here. The kid I started the thread about ia Indian. I can see this - this kid who cheated his way into Ivy then become CEOs and CTOs and outsources the science jobs to India.

Full circle.

lol Indians who attend high school and college in the US are very unlikely to outsource jobs to India.

That does not sound too smart... didn't someone say that's cheap labors in the thread

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Anonymous wrote:Also, why is college so expensive in the first place? I couldn't care less if Jimmy’s mom—who happens to be a lab scientist—wrote his paper and paid $100,000 a year just for a name-brand degree. At this rate of job offshoring, by the time Jimmy graduates, both he and his mom might be out of a job.

OP here. The kid I started the thread about ia Indian. I can see this - this kid who cheated his way into Ivy then become CEOs and CTOs and outsources the science jobs to India.

Full circle.

lol Indians who attend high school and college in the US are very unlikely to outsource jobs to India.

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Anonymous wrote:There was a kid admitted to Harvard from my kids high school last year. I googled her and I swear to god she had a LinkedIn profile better than some adults. Her parents had clearly been preparing her for years and years.

What is your point? Where do you want this kid to go? Maybe Harvard is a good match for this particular student. How would you know?

The point is that her entire bio was curated fro a very young age and not by her!

So what? That is how the game is played and if she is truly not deserving, it will not matter in the long run.

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Anonymous wrote:There was a kid admitted to Harvard from my kids high school last year. I googled her and I swear to god she had a LinkedIn profile better than some adults. Her parents had clearly been preparing her for years and years.

What is your point? Where do you want this kid to go? Maybe Harvard is a good match for this particular student. How would you know?

The point is that her entire bio was curated fro a very young age and not by her!

It is unfair and shameful.

Garbage in and garbage out no matter what

Asian hate again?

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Anonymous wrote:Also, why is college so expensive in the first place? I couldn't care less if Jimmy’s mom—who happens to be a lab scientist—wrote his paper and paid $100,000 a year just for a name-brand degree. At this rate of job offshoring, by the time Jimmy graduates, both he and his mom might be out of a job.

OP here. The kid I started the thread about ia Indian. I can see this - this kid who cheated his way into Ivy then become CEOs and CTOs and outsources the science jobs to India.

Full circle.

You don't become the CEO of a major company by being a cheater. You have to be capable and have some merit at that level. There are many companies that are being run by non-Indian CEOs that are also outsourcing to India - its a business decision. Stop hating Indians.

Anonymous wrote:Also, why is college so expensive in the first place? I couldn't care less if Jimmy’s mom—who happens to be a lab scientist—wrote his paper and paid $100,000 a year just for a name-brand degree. At this rate of job offshoring, by the time Jimmy graduates, both he and his mom might be out of a job.

OP here. The kid I started the thread about ia Indian. I can see this - this kid who cheated his way into Ivy then become CEOs and CTOs and outsources the science jobs to India.

Full circle.

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Anonymous wrote:The tone of this discussion feels cynical and toxic. When children are truly capable and dedicated, their efforts will eventually lead them to success. Those who rely heavily on parental advantage—so-called “nepo babies”—often struggle to sustain that success. Without genuine, self-driven achievement, any sense of fulfillment is usually short-lived. Outward success means little without inner joy or purpose.

Be kind.

Nepo babies don't stop gaining advantage at college. An internship opportunity, a job opening, a connection, their parents make sure they sustain their babies' success well into their 30s or 40s, just like what they did for their high school research. As a PP pointed out, "it's life get used to it."

While we are getting used to it, commenting on the fraud is hardly cynical or toxic. Nothing we can really do to stop it. It doesn't mean we also have to lose moral compass.

No body loses their moral compass. If colleges AO accept cheaters, there is nothing anybody can do.

When calling out fraud online being labeled as "cynical and toxic", you don't think they have lost their moral compass?
"Be kind"? To fraudsters?

blah blah blah. link us to the work of the fraudster if its fraud and prove it. otherwise its just more anonymous BS from trolls.

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Anonymous wrote:The tone of this discussion feels cynical and toxic. When children are truly capable and dedicated, their efforts will eventually lead them to success. Those who rely heavily on parental advantage—so-called “nepo babies”—often struggle to sustain that success. Without genuine, self-driven achievement, any sense of fulfillment is usually short-lived. Outward success means little without inner joy or purpose.

Be kind.

Nepo babies don't stop gaining advantage at college. An internship opportunity, a job opening, a connection, their parents make sure they sustain their babies' success well into their 30s or 40s, just like what they did for their high school research. As a PP pointed out, "it's life get used to it."

While we are getting used to it, commenting on the fraud is hardly cynical or toxic. Nothing we can really do to stop it. It doesn't mean we also have to lose moral compass.

No body loses their moral compass. If colleges AO accept cheaters, there is nothing anybody can do.

When calling out fraud online being labeled as "cynical and toxic", you don't think they have lost their moral compass?
"Be kind"? To fraudsters?