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Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

Listing this without listing data on accidents or fatalities isn’t that useful.
Traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities are FAR higher in ward 7 than 3. This isn’t the racist “gotcha” that you think it is.

Where's the evidence that traffic cameras reduce accidents? DC has increasing ticketing by almost 10 times. Where's the corresponding reduction in traffic deaths?

The evidence was provided to you several pages back. But you reject it because it destroys your thesis. You are this website’s most boring broken record.

No one has provided any evidence. That's the issue.

If there were evidence, it would be obvious by now. The city has increased ticketing by nearly 1000 percent over the past decade, and issues enough tickets each year to hit every driver in the city multiple times, and yet accident rates are no better than they were 10 years ago.

it's not just that handing out a billion traffic tickets isn't making a difference, it's literally everything dot is doing isn't making a difference.

Another factor is that, during COVID people started driving through DC like bats out of hell. Dialing that back requires significant action.

I'll take things that never happened for $200, Alex.

The number of speeding related deaths in DC is pretty much the same every single year since forever.

Where in the world do you actually live?

Almost all traffic deaths are caused by speed, regardless of whether speeding is listed as the "primary cause" by the attending officer or not. I believe the physics behind this have been explained to you many times over the past few years, but yet you continue to peddle nonsense.

That is not true. There's a whole range of reasons for traffic deaths. Typically about one-third involve speeding.

I trust that you understand the distinction between speed and speeding even if you pretend not to.

A driver can veer off I-95, hit a barricade at 70mph, and die. Speeding was not a factor in the crash, but speed sure as he was.

But we're talking about DC after all and there are only a handful of DC roads where the speed limit exceeds 25mph. Impacts at 25mph or less are rarely fatal, but the probability of a road user dying as a result of a crash increases markedly at speeds above that. It is thus highly probable that speeding was a factor contributing to any fatalities that occur on roads with speed limits of 25mph or less.

Yeah, that's like saying leaving your home is a contributing factor to traffic fatalities because none of the fatalities would have happened if people had just stayed home.

What the hell is this nonsense? You sound like the kind of person who would argue that short skirts cause sexual assault.

Pedestrians should have the right to walk down the street or - heaven forbid - cross the street without having their lives threatened by those who speed. whether those drivers are focused on the road, actively texting, staring at their Apple Play screen, or whistling Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah of their a$&holes.

And the DC government has a responsibility to uphold the safety of its residents and those visiting the city. Which it does by using speed cameras to deter speeding.

If you need evidence of the difference that speed cameras make, Google “James Evert Anderson”. James was a 16 year old who lived in Kensington, MD. He was killed on Sunday while crossing University Boulevard West. There was a speed camera at the location, which was recently removed. One local resident reports that, in the absence of the camera, drivers regularly speed at “50 or 60 on a 30 mph road”. Had drivers stuck to the speed limit, James Evert Anderson would still be alive today.

The only problem, as others have mentioned, is that there aren’t enough speed cameras. DC has about 8,000 city blocks and less than 500 speed cameras, so drivers are free to speed across 99.9% of the city without any plausible risk of being sanctioned for their speeding. That is just nuts.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

Listing this without listing data on accidents or fatalities isn’t that useful.
Traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities are FAR higher in ward 7 than 3. This isn’t the racist “gotcha” that you think it is.

Where's the evidence that traffic cameras reduce accidents? DC has increasing ticketing by almost 10 times. Where's the corresponding reduction in traffic deaths?

The evidence was provided to you several pages back. But you reject it because it destroys your thesis. You are this website’s most boring broken record.

No one has provided any evidence. That's the issue.

If there were evidence, it would be obvious by now. The city has increased ticketing by nearly 1000 percent over the past decade, and issues enough tickets each year to hit every driver in the city multiple times, and yet accident rates are no better than they were 10 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

Listing this without listing data on accidents or fatalities isn’t that useful.
Traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities are FAR higher in ward 7 than 3. This isn’t the racist “gotcha” that you think it is.

Where's the evidence that traffic cameras reduce accidents? DC has increasing ticketing by almost 10 times. Where's the corresponding reduction in traffic deaths?

The evidence was provided to you several pages back. But you reject it because it destroys your thesis. You are this website’s most boring broken record.

No one has provided any evidence. That's the issue.

If there were evidence, it would be obvious by now. The city has increased ticketing by nearly 1000 percent over the past decade, and issues enough tickets each year to hit every driver in the city multiple times, and yet accident rates are no better than they were 10 years ago.

it's not just that handing out a billion traffic tickets isn't making a difference, it's literally everything dot is doing isn't making a difference.

Another factor is that, during COVID people started driving through DC like bats out of hell. Dialing that back requires significant action.

I'll take things that never happened for $200, Alex.

The number of speeding related deaths in DC is pretty much the same every single year since forever.

Where in the world do you actually live?

Almost all traffic deaths are caused by speed, regardless of whether speeding is listed as the "primary cause" by the attending officer or not. I believe the physics behind this have been explained to you many times over the past few years, but yet you continue to peddle nonsense.

That is not true. There's a whole range of reasons for traffic deaths. Typically about one-third involve speeding.

I trust that you understand the distinction between speed and speeding even if you pretend not to.

A driver can veer off I-95, hit a barricade at 70mph, and die. Speeding was not a factor in the crash, but speed sure as he was.

But we're talking about DC after all and there are only a handful of DC roads where the speed limit exceeds 25mph. Impacts at 25mph or less are rarely fatal, but the probability of a road user dying as a result of a crash increases markedly at speeds above that. It is thus highly probable that speeding was a factor contributing to any fatalities that occur on roads with speed limits of 25mph or less.

Yeah, that's like saying leaving your home is a contributing factor to traffic fatalities because none of the fatalities would have happened if people had just stayed home.

What the hell is this nonsense? You sound like the kind of person who would argue that short skirts cause sexual assault.

Pedestrians should have the right to walk down the street or - heaven forbid - cross the street without having their lives threatened by those who speed. whether those drivers are focused on the road, actively texting, staring at their Apple Play screen, or whistling Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah of their a$&holes.

And the DC government has a responsibility to uphold the safety of its residents and those visiting the city. Which it does by using speed cameras to deter speeding.

If you need evidence of the difference that speed cameras make, Google “James Evert Anderson”. James was a 16 year old who lived in Kensington, MD. He was killed on Sunday while crossing University Boulevard West. There was a speed camera at the location, which was recently removed. One local resident reports that, in the absence of the camera, drivers regularly speed at “50 or 60 on a 30 mph road”. Had drivers stuck to the speed limit, James Evert Anderson would still be alive today.

The only problem, as others have mentioned, is that there aren’t enough speed cameras. DC has about 8,000 city blocks and less than 500 speed cameras, so drivers are free to speed across 99.9% of the city without any plausible risk of being sanctioned for their speeding. That is just nuts.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

Listing this without listing data on accidents or fatalities isn’t that useful.
Traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities are FAR higher in ward 7 than 3. This isn’t the racist “gotcha” that you think it is.

Where's the evidence that traffic cameras reduce accidents? DC has increasing ticketing by almost 10 times. Where's the corresponding reduction in traffic deaths?

The evidence was provided to you several pages back. But you reject it because it destroys your thesis. You are this website’s most boring broken record.

No one has provided any evidence. That's the issue.

If there were evidence, it would be obvious by now. The city has increased ticketing by nearly 1000 percent over the past decade, and issues enough tickets each year to hit every driver in the city multiple times, and yet accident rates are no better than they were 10 years ago.

it's not just that handing out a billion traffic tickets isn't making a difference, it's literally everything dot is doing isn't making a difference.

Another factor is that, during COVID people started driving through DC like bats out of hell. Dialing that back requires significant action.

I'll take things that never happened for $200, Alex.

The number of speeding related deaths in DC is pretty much the same every single year since forever.

Where in the world do you actually live?

Almost all traffic deaths are caused by speed, regardless of whether speeding is listed as the "primary cause" by the attending officer or not. I believe the physics behind this have been explained to you many times over the past few years, but yet you continue to peddle nonsense.

That is not true. There's a whole range of reasons for traffic deaths. Typically about one-third involve speeding.

I trust that you understand the distinction between speed and speeding even if you pretend not to.

A driver can veer off I-95, hit a barricade at 70mph, and die. Speeding was not a factor in the crash, but speed sure as he was.

But we're talking about DC after all and there are only a handful of DC roads where the speed limit exceeds 25mph. Impacts at 25mph or less are rarely fatal, but the probability of a road user dying as a result of a crash increases markedly at speeds above that. It is thus highly probable that speeding was a factor contributing to any fatalities that occur on roads with speed limits of 25mph or less.

Yeah, that's like saying leaving your home is a contributing factor to traffic fatalities because none of the fatalities would have happened if people had just stayed home.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

Listing this without listing data on accidents or fatalities isn’t that useful.
Traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities are FAR higher in ward 7 than 3. This isn’t the racist “gotcha” that you think it is.

Where's the evidence that traffic cameras reduce accidents? DC has increasing ticketing by almost 10 times. Where's the corresponding reduction in traffic deaths?

The evidence was provided to you several pages back. But you reject it because it destroys your thesis. You are this website’s most boring broken record.

No one has provided any evidence. That's the issue.

If there were evidence, it would be obvious by now. The city has increased ticketing by nearly 1000 percent over the past decade, and issues enough tickets each year to hit every driver in the city multiple times, and yet accident rates are no better than they were 10 years ago.

it's not just that handing out a billion traffic tickets isn't making a difference, it's literally everything dot is doing isn't making a difference.

Another factor is that, during COVID people started driving through DC like bats out of hell. Dialing that back requires significant action.

I'll take things that never happened for $200, Alex.

The number of speeding related deaths in DC is pretty much the same every single year since forever.

Where in the world do you actually live?

Almost all traffic deaths are caused by speed, regardless of whether speeding is listed as the "primary cause" by the attending officer or not. I believe the physics behind this have been explained to you many times over the past few years, but yet you continue to peddle nonsense.

That is not true. There's a whole range of reasons for traffic deaths. Typically about one-third involve speeding.

I trust that you understand the distinction between speed and speeding even if you pretend not to.

A driver can veer off I-95, hit a barricade at 70mph, and die. Speeding was not a factor in the crash, but speed sure as he was.

But we're talking about DC after all and there are only a handful of DC roads where the speed limit exceeds 25mph. Impacts at 25mph or less are rarely fatal, but the probability of a road user dying as a result of a crash increases markedly at speeds above that. It is thus highly probable that speeding was a factor contributing to any fatalities that occur on roads with speed limits of 25mph or less.

Yeah, that's like saying leaving your home is a contributing factor to traffic fatalities because none of the fatalities would have happened if people had just stayed home.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

Listing this without listing data on accidents or fatalities isn’t that useful.
Traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities are FAR higher in ward 7 than 3. This isn’t the racist “gotcha” that you think it is.

Where's the evidence that traffic cameras reduce accidents? DC has increasing ticketing by almost 10 times. Where's the corresponding reduction in traffic deaths?

The evidence was provided to you several pages back. But you reject it because it destroys your thesis. You are this website’s most boring broken record.

No one has provided any evidence. That's the issue.

If there were evidence, it would be obvious by now. The city has increased ticketing by nearly 1000 percent over the past decade, and issues enough tickets each year to hit every driver in the city multiple times, and yet accident rates are no better than they were 10 years ago.

it's not just that handing out a billion traffic tickets isn't making a difference, it's literally everything dot is doing isn't making a difference.

Another factor is that, during COVID people started driving through DC like bats out of hell. Dialing that back requires significant action.

I'll take things that never happened for $200, Alex.

The number of speeding related deaths in DC is pretty much the same every single year since forever.

Where in the world do you actually live?

Almost all traffic deaths are caused by speed, regardless of whether speeding is listed as the "primary cause" by the attending officer or not. I believe the physics behind this have been explained to you many times over the past few years, but yet you continue to peddle nonsense.

That is not true. There's a whole range of reasons for traffic deaths. Typically about one-third involve speeding.

I trust that you understand the distinction between speed and speeding even if you pretend not to.

A driver can veer off I-95, hit a barricade at 70mph, and die. Speeding was not a factor in the crash, but speed sure as he was.

But we're talking about DC after all and there are only a handful of DC roads where the speed limit exceeds 25mph. Impacts at 25mph or less are rarely fatal, but the probability of a road user dying as a result of a crash increases markedly at speeds above that. It is thus highly probable that speeding was a factor contributing to any fatalities that occur on roads with speed limits of 25mph or less.

Anonymous wrote:Congestion is worse because you all went on a building spree of lights, cameras, stop signs, speed bumps, bump outs, and lane removals from 2022-2024. Increasing congestion was also the stated goal. Congratulations I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

Listing this without listing data on accidents or fatalities isn’t that useful.
Traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities are FAR higher in ward 7 than 3. This isn’t the racist “gotcha” that you think it is.

Where's the evidence that traffic cameras reduce accidents? DC has increasing ticketing by almost 10 times. Where's the corresponding reduction in traffic deaths?

The evidence was provided to you several pages back. But you reject it because it destroys your thesis. You are this website’s most boring broken record.

No one has provided any evidence. That's the issue.

If there were evidence, it would be obvious by now. The city has increased ticketing by nearly 1000 percent over the past decade, and issues enough tickets each year to hit every driver in the city multiple times, and yet accident rates are no better than they were 10 years ago.

it's not just that handing out a billion traffic tickets isn't making a difference, it's literally everything dot is doing isn't making a difference.

Another factor is that, during COVID people started driving through DC like bats out of hell. Dialing that back requires significant action.

I'll take things that never happened for $200, Alex.

The number of speeding related deaths in DC is pretty much the same every single year since forever.

Where in the world do you actually live?

Almost all traffic deaths are caused by speed, regardless of whether speeding is listed as the "primary cause" by the attending officer or not. I believe the physics behind this have been explained to you many times over the past few years, but yet you continue to peddle nonsense.

That is not true. There's a whole range of reasons for traffic deaths. Typically about one-third involve speeding.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

Listing this without listing data on accidents or fatalities isn’t that useful.
Traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities are FAR higher in ward 7 than 3. This isn’t the racist “gotcha” that you think it is.

Where's the evidence that traffic cameras reduce accidents? DC has increasing ticketing by almost 10 times. Where's the corresponding reduction in traffic deaths?

The evidence was provided to you several pages back. But you reject it because it destroys your thesis. You are this website’s most boring broken record.

No one has provided any evidence. That's the issue.

If there were evidence, it would be obvious by now. The city has increased ticketing by nearly 1000 percent over the past decade, and issues enough tickets each year to hit every driver in the city multiple times, and yet accident rates are no better than they were 10 years ago.

it's not just that handing out a billion traffic tickets isn't making a difference, it's literally everything dot is doing isn't making a difference.

Another factor is that, during COVID people started driving through DC like bats out of hell. Dialing that back requires significant action.

Funny how the explosion of ticketing correlates with the city's budget problems, and not COVID.

2020: 1.4 million tickets
2021: 1.4 million tickets
2022: 1.4 million tickets
2023: 1.8 million tickets
2024: 3.3 million tickets

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Anonymous wrote:Congestion is worse because you all went on a building spree of lights, cameras, stop signs, speed bumps, bump outs, and lane removals from 2022-2024. Increasing congestion was also the stated goal. Congratulations I guess.

Don't let all the people that moved to far flung suburbs during Covid off the hook, or stopped riding metro...

This isn't some mystery. We know the cause because it was done intentionally.

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Anonymous wrote:The number almost doubled from the year before. DC now issues 8 times as many tickets each year as it did a decade ago. We issue twice as many tickets as Chicago, which is SO MUCH BIGGER! Pretty insane.

Hard to see what difference it's made to safety. Here's how many people the police say were killed each year in DC by speeding drivers:

2023: 22
2022: 9
2021: 12
2020: 15
2019: 10
2018: 9
2017: 12
2016: 8
2015: 11
2014: 12
2013: 11

Not really seeing a pattern.

It's striking how speeding deaths don't really change regardless of what the city does.

Has the city ever tried actually holding scofflaw drivers to account for their behavior? Not in the time I’ve been living here, which is a long time.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

That's because it's more crowded and more people speed there.

I can tell you that there is a speed camera on the section of Eastern Avenue I live near that has made a huge difference in my family's safety when we turn out of our neighborhood onto Eastern Avenue. Additionally, it's possible to cross the street out of our residential neighborhood and walk to our closest grocery store far more safely than before the speed camera. I'm grateful for it.

Seems like some major equity issues when all the cameras are in poor black neighborhoods and hardly any in the rich white neighborhoods, especially when the city is carpet bombing them with very expensive tickets. Also, obviously, each ward has approximately the same population.

Should we also do an overlay of tax payments and government expenditures by Ward? You know, for equity’s sake.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

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Anonymous wrote:In sorry that you're not able to speed through DC anymore, OP.

Are you kidding? You can just avoid the roads with cameras and go as fast as you want.