Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.
How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?
And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.
But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.
All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.
And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.
So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.
Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.
Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.
Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?
Sounds about white.
You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.
No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.
I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.
Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.
Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What’s crazy to me is that Charlie Kirk claim to fame was all about free speech. And catching people for their own free speech seems pretty hypocritical to me.
You killed the man and his ideal of free speech and debate. Gloves are off now.
Wait, I thought people shoot people. There was ONE PERSON who held that gun and pulled the trigger.
What about your anti-abortion guy who murdered the MN senator and her husband and also shot another senator and spouse? Can I blame you for that? Can I blame Charlie Kirk for telling his followers abortion is a holocaust?
You call people who disagree with democrats fascist, and someone who takes you at your word engraves a bullet with "catch this fascist," to kill an outspoken republican, and yes, I blame you and your party for that.
That's actually not true, at least for me (and why are you assuming that I do?). But I definitely notice and at times mention the clear parallels between rhetoric and actions from the Trump universe, the fact that he has had a following among people who call themselves Nazis, Trump's own comment that he wished he had Hitler's generals and that Hitler "did some good things" as reported by Gen Kelly and others, his declared admiration of people like Kim Jung Un, Bolsonaro, Duterte, Putin, his use of words like "vermin" when referring to actual groups of people, and his utter lack of concern for division in US politics as long as he can use that division to his own benefit.
Anyway, you didn't answer my question.
Both Hitler and Trump used
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I just appreciate the irony that the whole "F" your feelings crowd who gleefully celebrated Biden's failing health, Paul Pelosi getting beaten with a hammer, ignored their breathern who stampeded Congress with a noose and gallows, pretended like one of their own didn't cosplay as a cop and murder a couple of local politicians, and whose mindset something like 70-65% of mass shooters follows (whose very acts they claim are fabricated by the "deep state") are getting all bent out of shape because some Goebbels wanna be got shot by own of their own.
Hypocrites.
1. Republicans didn't celebrate Biden's failing health. We called it out in an effort to convince the Democrats and the media to see what was right in front of your faces.
2. Tell us about the Republicans who celebrated the Paul Pelosi attack. Name them.
3. The whole J6 riot was roundly condemned by Republicans.
4. The murderer of the MN politicians once worked for Tim Walz and claimed that Tim Walz told him to kill the lawmakers. How is this someone from the right?
And, your referring to Kirk as a "Goebbels wanna be" is outright disgusting, offensive, and nothing can be further from the truth.
One last thing.... you appear to have major anger issues. Get help.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.
How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?
And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.
But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.
All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.
And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.
So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.
Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.
Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.
Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?
Sounds about white.
You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.
No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.
I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.
Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.
Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I just appreciate the irony that the whole "F" your feelings crowd who gleefully celebrated Biden's failing health, Paul Pelosi getting beaten with a hammer, ignored their breathern who stampeded Congress with a noose and gallows, pretended like one of their own didn't cosplay as a cop and murder a couple of local politicians, and whose mindset something like 70-65% of mass shooters follows (whose very acts they claim are fabricated by the "deep state") are getting all bent out of shape because some Goebbels wanna be got shot by own of their own.
Hypocrites.
1. Republicans didn't celebrate Biden's failing health. We called it out in an effort to convince the Democrats and the media to see what was right in front of your faces.
2. Tell us about the Republicans who celebrated the Paul Pelosi attack. Name them.
3. The whole J6 riot was roundly condemned by Republicans.
4. The murderer of the MN politicians once worked for Tim Walz and claimed that Tim Walz told him to kill the lawmakers. How is this someone from the right?
And, your referring to Kirk as a "Goebbels wanna be" is outright disgusting, offensive, and nothing can be further from the truth.
One last thing.... you appear to have major anger issues. Get help.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What’s crazy to me is that Charlie Kirk claim to fame was all about free speech. And catching people for their own free speech seems pretty hypocritical to me.
You killed the man and his ideal of free speech and debate. Gloves are off now.
Wait, I thought people shoot people. There was ONE PERSON who held that gun and pulled the trigger.
What about your anti-abortion guy who murdered the MN senator and her husband and also shot another senator and spouse? Can I blame you for that? Can I blame Charlie Kirk for telling his followers abortion is a holocaust?
You call people who disagree with democrats fascist, and someone who takes you at your word engraves a bullet with "catch this fascist," to kill an outspoken republican, and yes, I blame you and your party for that.
That's actually not true, at least for me (and why are you assuming that I do?). But I definitely notice and at times mention the clear parallels between rhetoric and actions from the Trump universe, the fact that he has had a following among people who call themselves Nazis, Trump's own comment that he wished he had Hitler's generals and that Hitler "did some good things" as reported by Gen Kelly and others, his declared admiration of people like Kim Jung Un, Bolsonaro, Duterte, Putin, his use of words like "vermin" when referring to actual groups of people, and his utter lack of concern for division in US politics as long as he can use that division to his own benefit.
Anyway, you didn't answer my question.
Both Hitler and Trump used
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I just appreciate the irony that the whole "F" your feelings crowd who gleefully celebrated Biden's failing health, Paul Pelosi getting beaten with a hammer, ignored their breathern who stampeded Congress with a noose and gallows, pretended like one of their own didn't cosplay as a cop and murder a couple of local politicians, and whose mindset something like 70-65% of mass shooters follows (whose very acts they claim are fabricated by the "deep state") are getting all bent out of shape because some Goebbels wanna be got shot by own of their own.
Hypocrites.
1. Republicans didn't celebrate Biden's failing health. We called it out in an effort to convince the Democrats and the media to see what was right in front of your faces.
2. Tell us about the Republicans who celebrated the Paul Pelosi attack. Name them.
3. The whole J6 riot was roundly condemned by Republicans.
4. The murderer of the MN politicians once worked for Tim Walz and claimed that Tim Walz told him to kill the lawmakers. How is this someone from the right?
And, your referring to Kirk as a "Goebbels wanna be" is outright disgusting, offensive, and nothing can be further from the truth.
One last thing.... you appear to have major anger issues. Get help.
Anonymous wrote:I’ve turned over posts I’ve seen from co workers on both sides to our HR. No one should be celebrating someone’s death nor should they be threatening others with physical harm regardless of what they say.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What’s crazy to me is that Charlie Kirk claim to fame was all about free speech. And catching people for their own free speech seems pretty hypocritical to me.
You killed the man and his ideal of free speech and debate. Gloves are off now.
Wait, I thought people shoot people. There was ONE PERSON who held that gun and pulled the trigger.
What about your anti-abortion guy who murdered the MN senator and her husband and also shot another senator and spouse? Can I blame you for that? Can I blame Charlie Kirk for telling his followers abortion is a holocaust?
You call people who disagree with democrats fascist, and someone who takes you at your word engraves a bullet with "catch this fascist," to kill an outspoken republican, and yes, I blame you and your party for that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I just appreciate the irony that the whole "F" your feelings crowd who gleefully celebrated Biden's failing health, Paul Pelosi getting beaten with a hammer, ignored their breathern who stampeded Congress with a noose and gallows, pretended like one of their own didn't cosplay as a cop and murder a couple of local politicians, and whose mindset something like 70-65% of mass shooters follows (whose very acts they claim are fabricated by the "deep state") are getting all bent out of shape because some Goebbels wanna be got shot by own of their own.
Hypocrites.
1. Republicans didn't celebrate Biden's failing health. We called it out in an effort to convince the Democrats and the media to see what was right in front of your faces.
2. Tell us about the Republicans who celebrated the Paul Pelosi attack. Name them.
3. The whole J6 riot was roundly condemned by Republicans.
4. The murderer of the MN politicians once worked for Tim Walz and claimed that Tim Walz told him to kill the lawmakers. How is this someone from the right?
And, your referring to Kirk as a "Goebbels wanna be" is outright disgusting, offensive, and nothing can be further from the truth.
One last thing.... you appear to have major anger issues. Get help.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I just appreciate the irony that the whole "F" your feelings crowd who gleefully celebrated Biden's failing health, Paul Pelosi getting beaten with a hammer, ignored their breathern who stampeded Congress with a noose and gallows, pretended like one of their own didn't cosplay as a cop and murder a couple of local politicians, and whose mindset something like 70-65% of mass shooters follows (whose very acts they claim are fabricated by the "deep state") are getting all bent out of shape because some Goebbels wanna be got shot by own of their own.
Hypocrites.
1. Republicans didn't celebrate Biden's failing health. We called it out in an effort to convince the Democrats and the media to see what was right in front of your faces.
2. Tell us about the Republicans who celebrated the Paul Pelosi attack. Name them.
3. The whole J6 riot was roundly condemned by Republicans.
4. The murderer of the MN politicians once worked for Tim Walz and claimed that Tim Walz told him to kill the lawmakers. How is this someone from the right?
And, your referring to Kirk as a "Goebbels wanna be" is outright disgusting, offensive, and nothing can be further from the truth.
One last thing.... you appear to have major anger issues. Get help.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I just appreciate the irony that the whole "F" your feelings crowd who gleefully celebrated Biden's failing health, Paul Pelosi getting beaten with a hammer, ignored their breathern who stampeded Congress with a noose and gallows, pretended like one of their own didn't cosplay as a cop and murder a couple of local politicians, and whose mindset something like 70-65% of mass shooters follows (whose very acts they claim are fabricated by the "deep state") are getting all bent out of shape because some Goebbels wanna be got shot by own of their own.
Hypocrites.
1. Republicans didn't celebrate Biden's failing health. We called it out in an effort to convince the Democrats and the media to see what was right in front of your faces.
2. Tell us about the Republicans who celebrated the Paul Pelosi attack. Name them.
3. The whole J6 riot was roundly condemned by Republicans.
4. The murderer of the MN politicians once worked for Tim Walz and claimed that Tim Walz told him to kill the lawmakers. How is this someone from the right?
And, your referring to Kirk as a "Goebbels wanna be" is outright disgusting, offensive, and nothing can be further from the truth.
One last thing.... you appear to have major anger issues. Get help.
Anonymous wrote:
I just appreciate the irony that the whole "F" your feelings crowd who gleefully celebrated Biden's failing health, Paul Pelosi getting beaten with a hammer, ignored their breathern who stampeded Congress with a noose and gallows, pretended like one of their own didn't cosplay as a cop and murder a couple of local politicians, and whose mindset something like 70-65% of mass shooters follows (whose very acts they claim are fabricated by the "deep state") are getting all bent out of shape because some Goebbels wanna be got shot by own of their own.
Hypocrites.