Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:any insight into Skywalkers? I see the ranking dropped but they always had a strong recruiting history.
Skywalkers is a good cautionary tale for Cap fans. They used to dominate because there was only M&D and Heros to compete for bmore’s best, and most who were north and east of the city gravitated towards Skywalkers. They were HS only, just like Cap, and then Coppermine came along with teams from 3rd grade on, and they slowly started taking away SW’s recruits. The 27s kind of split between CM and SW, but from 28 down, CM dominates that area now. SWs started running younger teams, but it was a little too late and we are now here. Cap better hope no serious competition gets established, but even for the 28 Cap Blue pool, some just chose to drive to Heros and M&D.
Coppermine 2028 is a good cautionary take for any good rising 9th graders looking to sign up for guinea pig duty at an emerging high school club. Coppermine 2028 collapsed recently when its top players left, leaving the rest with a husk of the former team as they enter the all-important sophomore year. I guess you had not heard about that? Anyway, I bet those remaining Coppermine girls wish they had played their cards differently last summer and went with one of the established HS clubs like Skywalkers.
They still finished last year at #12 though, ahead of skywalkers. Yes, they took a toxic kid who caused issues and some kids left, but the point is still valid; CM took over that area from SW. I also know that the kids and families who stayed are very happy they stayed. Probably about as happy as the 28s who left Cap Blue for bmore.
Only 3 kids remain from the team roster from what it was in summer of 2024 and 2 of those 3 joined that season. Everyone else is gone.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:any insight into Skywalkers? I see the ranking dropped but they always had a strong recruiting history.
Skywalkers is a good cautionary tale for Cap fans. They used to dominate because there was only M&D and Heros to compete for bmore’s best, and most who were north and east of the city gravitated towards Skywalkers. They were HS only, just like Cap, and then Coppermine came along with teams from 3rd grade on, and they slowly started taking away SW’s recruits. The 27s kind of split between CM and SW, but from 28 down, CM dominates that area now. SWs started running younger teams, but it was a little too late and we are now here. Cap better hope no serious competition gets established, but even for the 28 Cap Blue pool, some just chose to drive to Heros and M&D.
Coppermine 2028 is a good cautionary take for any good rising 9th graders looking to sign up for guinea pig duty at an emerging high school club. Coppermine 2028 collapsed recently when its top players left, leaving the rest with a husk of the former team as they enter the all-important sophomore year. I guess you had not heard about that? Anyway, I bet those remaining Coppermine girls wish they had played their cards differently last summer and went with one of the established HS clubs like Skywalkers.
They still finished last year at #12 though, ahead of skywalkers. Yes, they took a toxic kid who caused issues and some kids left, but the point is still valid; CM took over that area from SW. I also know that the kids and families who stayed are very happy they stayed. Probably about as happy as the 28s who left Cap Blue for bmore.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There appear to be similarities between some of the recent anti-Cap posts and discussions on the 2029 forum from previous months. At that time, some M&D DC 2029 parents and supporters expressed concerns about players moving to Capital and raised criticisms of Capital. One argument focused on the Cap Blue 2027 and 2028 teams' rankings in the 20s, suggesting this would negatively impact recruiting and the program’s future. That effort to keep the M&D DC 2029 team together failed miserably, but they became pretty invested in the narrative, which has brought us all the way to this thread and now.
Some recent comments in this thread have revealed an elementary understanding of the recruiting process combined with strange comments about an outsized role in the recruiting process played by the SR head coach, leading me to think the loudest of the anti-Cap parents/supporters in this thread are the same M&D DC 2029 group from the 2029 thread. Anyway, the recently flurry of Capital commitments coming out has taken the wind out of their sails and they are tucking tail. Stay tuned for the next chapter in the 2028 forum over the next year.
The anti-Capital rhetoric precedes the 2029s. If you need evidence, just scroll through the 900 pages of the 2028 thread. There are people who don't like the club for a range of reasons. There are also people who think the club is good, but find it agitating when Capital crusaders insist on saying girls get recruited BECAUSE of the name. The reality is, the club has connections and a lot of experience with recruiting, so they're one of many good clubs to play for. But Capital or not, a 5 star recruit is going to get recruited to UVA (BTW congratulations) because they are that good. Etc.
The true test of whether Capital works miracles is whether they get the WHOLE team recruited to schools beyond what might be projected based on abilities. The first wave of girls tells you very little. If in a few months you can line the list of recruits up next to past teams who were much higher performing and there's marginal difference in the caliber of schools - then you've proven your point. But in the meantime, can we just celebrate the commitments?
It seems the anti Cap 27 recruiting narrative is changing since the first Capital commitments have been announced. Prior to 9/1 people were saying the 27s would have horrible results due to their #21 ranking. Now posters such as yourself are saying that the only measure of the 27’s success is if their recruiting is on par with prior teams that were ranked top five. I think any ‘30 DMV family considering a move to Capital next year would see the early 27 results as validation that the club puts its players on a very big platform to get recruited. Even with a #21 ranking, Capital has three players at top 25 programs and to two ivies - I’d think that alone would be enough for them to realize the club isn’t on a crash course (a narrative many pushed) and would be eager to try and make the team next year.
Those cap blue kids are awesome, there was never doubt that they would do well with recruiting. Let’s see how the entire class does, bc to the point above, is cap so magical that the kids who aren’t 4 and 5 stars get in schools above where their talent permits? That was always the claim and what pisses people off, that cap alone will get them to the promise land. Capital as a club is an absolute joke. Naming coaches a few days bf tryouts, website never being updated, zero social media, and almost no actual assistance with recruiting. There is no perfect club, but cap misses on so many basic things, it is mind blowing to hear the cap propagandists yap. Yes, it’s still the best bet in the area for the better kids, but all of the successes are due to a good talent pool and zero local competition.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:any insight into Skywalkers? I see the ranking dropped but they always had a strong recruiting history.
Skywalkers is a good cautionary tale for Cap fans. They used to dominate because there was only M&D and Heros to compete for bmore’s best, and most who were north and east of the city gravitated towards Skywalkers. They were HS only, just like Cap, and then Coppermine came along with teams from 3rd grade on, and they slowly started taking away SW’s recruits. The 27s kind of split between CM and SW, but from 28 down, CM dominates that area now. SWs started running younger teams, but it was a little too late and we are now here. Cap better hope no serious competition gets established, but even for the 28 Cap Blue pool, some just chose to drive to Heros and M&D.
Coppermine 2028 is a good cautionary take for any good rising 9th graders looking to sign up for guinea pig duty at an emerging high school club. Coppermine 2028 collapsed recently when its top players left, leaving the rest with a husk of the former team as they enter the all-important sophomore year. I guess you had not heard about that? Anyway, I bet those remaining Coppermine girls wish they had played their cards differently last summer and went with one of the established HS clubs like Skywalkers.
They still finished last year at #12 though, ahead of skywalkers. Yes, they took a toxic kid who caused issues and some kids left, but the point is still valid; CM took over that area from SW. I also know that the kids and families who stayed are very happy they stayed. Probably about as happy as the 28s who left Cap Blue for bmore.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:any insight into Skywalkers? I see the ranking dropped but they always had a strong recruiting history.
Skywalkers is a good cautionary tale for Cap fans. They used to dominate because there was only M&D and Heros to compete for bmore’s best, and most who were north and east of the city gravitated towards Skywalkers. They were HS only, just like Cap, and then Coppermine came along with teams from 3rd grade on, and they slowly started taking away SW’s recruits. The 27s kind of split between CM and SW, but from 28 down, CM dominates that area now. SWs started running younger teams, but it was a little too late and we are now here. Cap better hope no serious competition gets established, but even for the 28 Cap Blue pool, some just chose to drive to Heros and M&D.
Coppermine 2028 is a good cautionary take for any good rising 9th graders looking to sign up for guinea pig duty at an emerging high school club. Coppermine 2028 collapsed recently when its top players left, leaving the rest with a husk of the former team as they enter the all-important sophomore year. I guess you had not heard about that? Anyway, I bet those remaining Coppermine girls wish they had played their cards differently last summer and went with one of the established HS clubs like Skywalkers.
Coppermine as a club has done an unbelievable job rising in the last 5 years. They have terrific stable of teams in a very competitive (although deep in talent) area, which is not easy to do. They'll probably take more caution to make sure mommy/daddy coaches have their priorities straight in the future, but I doubt their ascension has topped out.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:any insight into Skywalkers? I see the ranking dropped but they always had a strong recruiting history.
Skywalkers is a good cautionary tale for Cap fans. They used to dominate because there was only M&D and Heros to compete for bmore’s best, and most who were north and east of the city gravitated towards Skywalkers. They were HS only, just like Cap, and then Coppermine came along with teams from 3rd grade on, and they slowly started taking away SW’s recruits. The 27s kind of split between CM and SW, but from 28 down, CM dominates that area now. SWs started running younger teams, but it was a little too late and we are now here. Cap better hope no serious competition gets established, but even for the 28 Cap Blue pool, some just chose to drive to Heros and M&D.
Coppermine 2028 is a good cautionary take for any good rising 9th graders looking to sign up for guinea pig duty at an emerging high school club. Coppermine 2028 collapsed recently when its top players left, leaving the rest with a husk of the former team as they enter the all-important sophomore year. I guess you had not heard about that? Anyway, I bet those remaining Coppermine girls wish they had played their cards differently last summer and went with one of the established HS clubs like Skywalkers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:any insight into Skywalkers? I see the ranking dropped but they always had a strong recruiting history.
Skywalkers is a good cautionary tale for Cap fans. They used to dominate because there was only M&D and Heros to compete for bmore’s best, and most who were north and east of the city gravitated towards Skywalkers. They were HS only, just like Cap, and then Coppermine came along with teams from 3rd grade on, and they slowly started taking away SW’s recruits. The 27s kind of split between CM and SW, but from 28 down, CM dominates that area now. SWs started running younger teams, but it was a little too late and we are now here. Cap better hope no serious competition gets established, but even for the 28 Cap Blue pool, some just chose to drive to Heros and M&D.
Coppermine 2028 is a good cautionary take for any good rising 9th graders looking to sign up for guinea pig duty at an emerging high school club. Coppermine 2028 collapsed recently when its top players left, leaving the rest with a husk of the former team as they enter the all-important sophomore year. I guess you had not heard about that? Anyway, I bet those remaining Coppermine girls wish they had played their cards differently last summer and went with one of the established HS clubs like Skywalkers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:any insight into Skywalkers? I see the ranking dropped but they always had a strong recruiting history.
Skywalkers is a good cautionary tale for Cap fans. They used to dominate because there was only M&D and Heros to compete for bmore’s best, and most who were north and east of the city gravitated towards Skywalkers. They were HS only, just like Cap, and then Coppermine came along with teams from 3rd grade on, and they slowly started taking away SW’s recruits. The 27s kind of split between CM and SW, but from 28 down, CM dominates that area now. SWs started running younger teams, but it was a little too late and we are now here. Cap better hope no serious competition gets established, but even for the 28 Cap Blue pool, some just chose to drive to Heros and M&D.
Coppermine 2028 is a good cautionary take for any good rising 9th graders looking to sign up for guinea pig duty at an emerging high school club. Coppermine 2028 collapsed recently when its top players left, leaving the rest with a husk of the former team as they enter the all-important sophomore year. I guess you had not heard about that? Anyway, I bet those remaining Coppermine girls wish they had played their cards differently last summer and went with one of the established HS clubs like Skywalkers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There appear to be similarities between some of the recent anti-Cap posts and discussions on the 2029 forum from previous months. At that time, some M&D DC 2029 parents and supporters expressed concerns about players moving to Capital and raised criticisms of Capital. One argument focused on the Cap Blue 2027 and 2028 teams' rankings in the 20s, suggesting this would negatively impact recruiting and the program’s future. That effort to keep the M&D DC 2029 team together failed miserably, but they became pretty invested in the narrative, which has brought us all the way to this thread and now.
Some recent comments in this thread have revealed an elementary understanding of the recruiting process combined with strange comments about an outsized role in the recruiting process played by the SR head coach, leading me to think the loudest of the anti-Cap parents/supporters in this thread are the same M&D DC 2029 group from the 2029 thread. Anyway, the recently flurry of Capital commitments coming out has taken the wind out of their sails and they are tucking tail. Stay tuned for the next chapter in the 2028 forum over the next year.
The anti-Capital rhetoric precedes the 2029s. If you need evidence, just scroll through the 900 pages of the 2028 thread. There are people who don't like the club for a range of reasons. There are also people who think the club is good, but find it agitating when Capital crusaders insist on saying girls get recruited BECAUSE of the name. The reality is, the club has connections and a lot of experience with recruiting, so they're one of many good clubs to play for. But Capital or not, a 5 star recruit is going to get recruited to UVA (BTW congratulations) because they are that good. Etc.
The true test of whether Capital works miracles is whether they get the WHOLE team recruited to schools beyond what might be projected based on abilities. The first wave of girls tells you very little. If in a few months you can line the list of recruits up next to past teams who were much higher performing and there's marginal difference in the caliber of schools - then you've proven your point. But in the meantime, can we just celebrate the commitments?
It seems the anti Cap 27 recruiting narrative is changing since the first Capital commitments have been announced. Prior to 9/1 people were saying the 27s would have horrible results due to their #21 ranking. Now posters such as yourself are saying that the only measure of the 27’s success is if their recruiting is on par with prior teams that were ranked top five. I think any ‘30 DMV family considering a move to Capital next year would see the early 27 results as validation that the club puts its players on a very big platform to get recruited. Even with a #21 ranking, Capital has three players at top 25 programs and to two ivies - I’d think that alone would be enough for them to realize the club isn’t on a crash course (a narrative many pushed) and would be eager to try and make the team next year.
We will still go after the 28s, which are ranked even lower than the 27s and will definitely have horrible recruiting results.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:any insight into Skywalkers? I see the ranking dropped but they always had a strong recruiting history.
Skywalkers is a good cautionary tale for Cap fans. They used to dominate because there was only M&D and Heros to compete for bmore’s best, and most who were north and east of the city gravitated towards Skywalkers. They were HS only, just like Cap, and then Coppermine came along with teams from 3rd grade on, and they slowly started taking away SW’s recruits. The 27s kind of split between CM and SW, but from 28 down, CM dominates that area now. SWs started running younger teams, but it was a little too late and we are now here. Cap better hope no serious competition gets established, but even for the 28 Cap Blue pool, some just chose to drive to Heros and M&D.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:any insight into Skywalkers? I see the ranking dropped but they always had a strong recruiting history.
Skywalkers is a good cautionary tale for Cap fans. They used to dominate because there was only M&D and Heros to compete for bmore’s best, and most who were north and east of the city gravitated towards Skywalkers. They were HS only, just like Cap, and then Coppermine came along with teams from 3rd grade on, and they slowly started taking away SW’s recruits. The 27s kind of split between CM and SW, but from 28 down, CM dominates that area now. SWs started running younger teams, but it was a little too late and we are now here. Cap better hope no serious competition gets established, but even for the 28 Cap Blue pool, some just chose to drive to Heros and M&D.