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Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.

This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.

Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.

On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.

Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.

MLS teams play each other.

So you can try to slice it up into better or worse but it doesn't matter because ECNL is not involved.

MLSN P2P teams only get a couple of games against MLSN academies a year.

Conflating MLSN academies with MLSN P2P is disengenuous. The academies operate differently and on a few levels above MLSN P2P of course.

But it seems you are drinking the MLSN marketing kool aid and something tells me that you would change your tune if you son got cut from MLSN P2P and you were more open minded.

ECNL clubs play MLSN P2P clubs several times a year through friendlies and tourneys. They also play the academies in friendlies. A good ECNL club will give you all the same opportunies for competition that MLSN would have.

If this is true (I dont think it is) it explains why the boys ECNL parent is posting about SY every 30 seconds in the other thread. If MLSN stays BY they won't participate in SY tournaments and with friendlies they'd likely force the ECNL team to play up. Basically ECNL would get locked out from playing against MLSN teams. (Acadamy and P2P)

MLSN doesn't have open tournaments, clubs do. Clubs that are in multiple leagues that fund much of the club through tournament fees mostly at the younger ages. They will do what can to maximize revenue. Tournaments are a dead cat on the table issue, always brought up like there is some great impediment when there isn't.

Clubs that are SY based will have SY tournaments

Clubs that are BY based will have BY tournaments

If your team is BY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in SY tournaments. If your team is SY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in BY tournaments.

See how it works? This is why the different leagues would just ignore each other.

Clubs aren't league based, they have multiple leagues they are in. And the bulk of leagues declared SY so with over 95 percent of teamscin a club SY even if they have a few top teams in MLSN, tournaments would be SY. The tournament issue is a non issue.

If you are a MLSN club and MLSN stays BY your local tournament will be BY and attended by other BY clubs.

Makes no sense for a club to have a tournament that only 3 or 4 local teams per age will want to play and a clubs secondary teams have to play up. Unless clubs don't like cash.

Welcome to the world ECNL via US Club created by switching from SY to BY.

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Anonymous wrote:Putting together a list of clubs that might be forced to be MLSN+GA or all ECNL soon. Which ones have I missed?


Bethesda SC (MD) — Boys: MLS NEXT; Girls: ECNL.

De Anza Force (CA) — Boys: MLS NEXT; Girls: ECNL.

FC DELCO (PA) — Boys: MLS NEXT; Girls: ECNL.

Tampa Bay United (FL) — Boys: MLS NEXT; Girls: ECNL (and ECNL

Midwest United (MI) — Was dual historically; girls move to Girls Academy in Fall 2025, so no longer ECNL Girls. Boys remain MLS NEXT.

Bethedsa would fit best in ECNL. Others would probably dump ECNL girls if forced.

Anonymous wrote:Putting together a list of clubs that might be forced to be MLSN+GA or all ECNL soon. Which ones have I missed?


Bethesda SC (MD) — Boys: MLS NEXT; Girls: ECNL.

De Anza Force (CA) — Boys: MLS NEXT; Girls: ECNL.

FC DELCO (PA) — Boys: MLS NEXT; Girls: ECNL.

Tampa Bay United (FL) — Boys: MLS NEXT; Girls: ECNL (and ECNL

Midwest United (MI) — Was dual historically; girls move to Girls Academy in Fall 2025, so no longer ECNL Girls. Boys remain MLS NEXT.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.

This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.

Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.

On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.

Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.

MLS teams play each other.

So you can try to slice it up into better or worse but it doesn't matter because ECNL is not involved.

MLSN P2P teams only get a couple of games against MLSN academies a year.

Conflating MLSN academies with MLSN P2P is disengenuous. The academies operate differently and on a few levels above MLSN P2P of course.

But it seems you are drinking the MLSN marketing kool aid and something tells me that you would change your tune if you son got cut from MLSN P2P and you were more open minded.

ECNL clubs play MLSN P2P clubs several times a year through friendlies and tourneys. They also play the academies in friendlies. A good ECNL club will give you all the same opportunies for competition that MLSN would have.

If this is true (I dont think it is) it explains why the boys ECNL parent is posting about SY every 30 seconds in the other thread. If MLSN stays BY they won't participate in SY tournaments and with friendlies they'd likely force the ECNL team to play up. Basically ECNL would get locked out from playing against MLSN teams. (Acadamy and P2P)

MLSN doesn't have open tournaments, clubs do. Clubs that are in multiple leagues that fund much of the club through tournament fees mostly at the younger ages. They will do what can to maximize revenue. Tournaments are a dead cat on the table issue, always brought up like there is some great impediment when there isn't.

Clubs that are SY based will have SY tournaments

Clubs that are BY based will have BY tournaments

If your team is BY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in SY tournaments. If your team is SY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in BY tournaments.

See how it works? This is why the different leagues would just ignore each other.

Clubs aren't league based, they have multiple leagues they are in. And the bulk of leagues declared SY so with over 95 percent of teamscin a club SY even if they have a few top teams in MLSN, tournaments would be SY. The tournament issue is a non issue.

If you are a MLSN club and MLSN stays BY your local tournament will be BY and attended by other BY clubs.

Makes no sense for a club to have a tournament that only 3 or 4 local teams per age will want to play and a clubs secondary teams have to play up. Unless clubs don't like cash.

Welcome to the world ECNL via US Club created by switching from SY to BY.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.

This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.

Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.

On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.

Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.

MLS teams play each other.

So you can try to slice it up into better or worse but it doesn't matter because ECNL is not involved.

MLSN P2P teams only get a couple of games against MLSN academies a year.

Conflating MLSN academies with MLSN P2P is disengenuous. The academies operate differently and on a few levels above MLSN P2P of course.

But it seems you are drinking the MLSN marketing kool aid and something tells me that you would change your tune if you son got cut from MLSN P2P and you were more open minded.

ECNL clubs play MLSN P2P clubs several times a year through friendlies and tourneys. They also play the academies in friendlies. A good ECNL club will give you all the same opportunies for competition that MLSN would have.

If this is true (I dont think it is) it explains why the boys ECNL parent is posting about SY every 30 seconds in the other thread. If MLSN stays BY they won't participate in SY tournaments and with friendlies they'd likely force the ECNL team to play up. Basically ECNL would get locked out from playing against MLSN teams. (Acadamy and P2P)

MLSN doesn't have open tournaments, clubs do. Clubs that are in multiple leagues that fund much of the club through tournament fees mostly at the younger ages. They will do what can to maximize revenue. Tournaments are a dead cat on the table issue, always brought up like there is some great impediment when there isn't.

Clubs that are SY based will have SY tournaments

Clubs that are BY based will have BY tournaments

If your team is BY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in SY tournaments. If your team is SY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in BY tournaments.

See how it works? This is why the different leagues would just ignore each other.

Clubs aren't league based, they have multiple leagues they are in. And the bulk of leagues declared SY so with over 95 percent of teamscin a club SY even if they have a few top teams in MLSN, tournaments would be SY. The tournament issue is a non issue.

If you are a MLSN club and MLSN stays BY your local tournament will be BY and attended by other BY clubs.

Makes no sense for a club to have a tournament that only 3 or 4 local teams per age will want to play and a clubs secondary teams have to play up. Unless clubs don't like cash.

From a competition perspective, the top players and best teams are not worried about BY vs SY. The 1000 page thread talking about this is full of parents of players who will end their soccer career at D3 or high school.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.

This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.

Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.

On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.

Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.

MLS teams play each other.

So you can try to slice it up into better or worse but it doesn't matter because ECNL is not involved.

MLSN P2P teams only get a couple of games against MLSN academies a year.

Conflating MLSN academies with MLSN P2P is disengenuous. The academies operate differently and on a few levels above MLSN P2P of course.

But it seems you are drinking the MLSN marketing kool aid and something tells me that you would change your tune if you son got cut from MLSN P2P and you were more open minded.

ECNL clubs play MLSN P2P clubs several times a year through friendlies and tourneys. They also play the academies in friendlies. A good ECNL club will give you all the same opportunies for competition that MLSN would have.

If this is true (I dont think it is) it explains why the boys ECNL parent is posting about SY every 30 seconds in the other thread. If MLSN stays BY they won't participate in SY tournaments and with friendlies they'd likely force the ECNL team to play up. Basically ECNL would get locked out from playing against MLSN teams. (Acadamy and P2P)

MLSN doesn't have open tournaments, clubs do. Clubs that are in multiple leagues that fund much of the club through tournament fees mostly at the younger ages. They will do what can to maximize revenue. Tournaments are a dead cat on the table issue, always brought up like there is some great impediment when there isn't.

Clubs that are SY based will have SY tournaments

Clubs that are BY based will have BY tournaments

If your team is BY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in SY tournaments. If your team is SY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in BY tournaments.

See how it works? This is why the different leagues would just ignore each other.

Clubs aren't league based, they have multiple leagues they are in. And the bulk of leagues declared SY so with over 95 percent of teamscin a club SY even if they have a few top teams in MLSN, tournaments would be SY. The tournament issue is a non issue.

If you are a MLSN club and MLSN stays BY your local tournament will be BY and attended by other BY clubs.

Makes no sense for a club to have a tournament that only 3 or 4 local teams per age will want to play and a clubs secondary teams have to play up. Unless clubs don't like cash.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.

This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.

Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.

On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.

Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.

MLS teams play each other.

So you can try to slice it up into better or worse but it doesn't matter because ECNL is not involved.

MLSN P2P teams only get a couple of games against MLSN academies a year.

Conflating MLSN academies with MLSN P2P is disengenuous. The academies operate differently and on a few levels above MLSN P2P of course.

But it seems you are drinking the MLSN marketing kool aid and something tells me that you would change your tune if you son got cut from MLSN P2P and you were more open minded.

ECNL clubs play MLSN P2P clubs several times a year through friendlies and tourneys. They also play the academies in friendlies. A good ECNL club will give you all the same opportunies for competition that MLSN would have.

If this is true (I dont think it is) it explains why the boys ECNL parent is posting about SY every 30 seconds in the other thread. If MLSN stays BY they won't participate in SY tournaments and with friendlies they'd likely force the ECNL team to play up. Basically ECNL would get locked out from playing against MLSN teams. (Acadamy and P2P)

MLSN doesn't have open tournaments, clubs do. Clubs that are in multiple leagues that fund much of the club through tournament fees mostly at the younger ages. They will do what can to maximize revenue. Tournaments are a dead cat on the table issue, always brought up like there is some great impediment when there isn't.

Clubs that are SY based will have SY tournaments

Clubs that are BY based will have BY tournaments

If your team is BY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in SY tournaments. If your team is SY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in BY tournaments.

See how it works? This is why the different leagues would just ignore each other.

Clubs aren't league based, they have multiple leagues they are in. And the bulk of leagues declared SY so with over 95 percent of teamscin a club SY even if they have a few top teams in MLSN, tournaments would be SY. The tournament issue is a non issue.

If you are a MLSN club and MLSN stays BY your local tournament will be BY and attended by other BY clubs.

Makes no sense for a club to have a tournament that only 3 or 4 local teams per age will want to play and a clubs secondary teams have to play up. Unless clubs don't like cash.

Welcome to the world ECNL via US Club created by switching from SY to BY.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.

This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.

Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.

On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.

Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.

MLS teams play each other.

So you can try to slice it up into better or worse but it doesn't matter because ECNL is not involved.

MLSN P2P teams only get a couple of games against MLSN academies a year.

Conflating MLSN academies with MLSN P2P is disengenuous. The academies operate differently and on a few levels above MLSN P2P of course.

But it seems you are drinking the MLSN marketing kool aid and something tells me that you would change your tune if you son got cut from MLSN P2P and you were more open minded.

ECNL clubs play MLSN P2P clubs several times a year through friendlies and tourneys. They also play the academies in friendlies. A good ECNL club will give you all the same opportunies for competition that MLSN would have.

If this is true (I dont think it is) it explains why the boys ECNL parent is posting about SY every 30 seconds in the other thread. If MLSN stays BY they won't participate in SY tournaments and with friendlies they'd likely force the ECNL team to play up. Basically ECNL would get locked out from playing against MLSN teams. (Acadamy and P2P)

MLSN doesn't have open tournaments, clubs do. Clubs that are in multiple leagues that fund much of the club through tournament fees mostly at the younger ages. They will do what can to maximize revenue. Tournaments are a dead cat on the table issue, always brought up like there is some great impediment when there isn't.

Clubs that are SY based will have SY tournaments

Clubs that are BY based will have BY tournaments

If your team is BY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in SY tournaments. If your team is SY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in BY tournaments.

See how it works? This is why the different leagues would just ignore each other.

Clubs aren't league based, they have multiple leagues they are in. And the bulk of leagues declared SY so with over 95 percent of teamscin a club SY even if they have a few top teams in MLSN, tournaments would be SY. The tournament issue is a non issue.

If you are a MLSN club and MLSN stays BY your local tournament will be BY and attended by other BY clubs.

Makes no sense for a club to have a tournament that only 3 or 4 local teams per age will want to play and a clubs secondary teams have to play up. Unless clubs don't like cash.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.

This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.

Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.

On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.

Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.

MLS teams play each other.

So you can try to slice it up into better or worse but it doesn't matter because ECNL is not involved.

MLSN P2P teams only get a couple of games against MLSN academies a year.

Conflating MLSN academies with MLSN P2P is disengenuous. The academies operate differently and on a few levels above MLSN P2P of course.

But it seems you are drinking the MLSN marketing kool aid and something tells me that you would change your tune if you son got cut from MLSN P2P and you were more open minded.

ECNL clubs play MLSN P2P clubs several times a year through friendlies and tourneys. They also play the academies in friendlies. A good ECNL club will give you all the same opportunies for competition that MLSN would have.

If this is true (I dont think it is) it explains why the boys ECNL parent is posting about SY every 30 seconds in the other thread. If MLSN stays BY they won't participate in SY tournaments and with friendlies they'd likely force the ECNL team to play up. Basically ECNL would get locked out from playing against MLSN teams. (Acadamy and P2P)

MLSN doesn't have open tournaments, clubs do. Clubs that are in multiple leagues that fund much of the club through tournament fees mostly at the younger ages. They will do what can to maximize revenue. Tournaments are a dead cat on the table issue, always brought up like there is some great impediment when there isn't.

Clubs that are SY based will have SY tournaments

Clubs that are BY based will have BY tournaments

If your team is BY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in SY tournaments. If your team is SY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in BY tournaments.

See how it works? This is why the different leagues would just ignore each other.

Clubs aren't league based, they have multiple leagues they are in. And the bulk of leagues declared SY so with over 95 percent of teamscin a club SY even if they have a few top teams in MLSN, tournaments would be SY. The tournament issue is a non issue.

If you are a MLSN club and MLSN stays BY your local tournament will be BY and attended by other BY clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.

This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.

Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.

On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.

Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.

MLS teams play each other.

So you can try to slice it up into better or worse but it doesn't matter because ECNL is not involved.

MLSN P2P teams only get a couple of games against MLSN academies a year.

Conflating MLSN academies with MLSN P2P is disengenuous. The academies operate differently and on a few levels above MLSN P2P of course.

But it seems you are drinking the MLSN marketing kool aid and something tells me that you would change your tune if you son got cut from MLSN P2P and you were more open minded.

ECNL clubs play MLSN P2P clubs several times a year through friendlies and tourneys. They also play the academies in friendlies. A good ECNL club will give you all the same opportunies for competition that MLSN would have.

If this is true (I dont think it is) it explains why the boys ECNL parent is posting about SY every 30 seconds in the other thread. If MLSN stays BY they won't participate in SY tournaments and with friendlies they'd likely force the ECNL team to play up. Basically ECNL would get locked out from playing against MLSN teams. (Acadamy and P2P)

MLSN doesn't have open tournaments, clubs do. Clubs that are in multiple leagues that fund much of the club through tournament fees mostly at the younger ages. They will do what can to maximize revenue. Tournaments are a dead cat on the table issue, always brought up like there is some great impediment when there isn't.

Clubs that are SY based will have SY tournaments

Clubs that are BY based will have BY tournaments

If your team is BY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in SY tournaments. If your team is SY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in BY tournaments.

See how it works? This is why the different leagues would just ignore each other.

Clubs aren't league based, they have multiple leagues they are in. And the bulk of leagues declared SY so with over 95 percent of teamscin a club SY even if they have a few top teams in MLSN, tournaments would be SY. The tournament issue is a non issue.

Anonymous wrote:So, everything would stay the same…. Do ECNL teams regularly play MLS/GA teams outside of Friendlies/Showcases? No.