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Post 06/16/2025 13:36     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

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Anonymous wrote:I support Israel and its courage to do the necessary. Iran has to fall. I believe this is all done in agreement with the Western powers.
+1 Thwarting Iran from nuking Israel was necessary but takes courage. You cannot wait until your cities are vaporized before taking action. Israel learned a valuable lesson when it made a pre-emptive strike which neutralized Egypt’s air force thus preventing Egypy and its cowardly allies from gaining the upper hand in the region.


Because Israel having an upper hand in the region is so deserved and good for humanity? SMH.
Nobody in the region wants Iran to have a nuke, except maybe Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis.


Nobody wants Israel to have a nuke either.

Nobody wants North Korea to have a nuke either, but here we are. Doesn't mean Iran deserves to have a nuke, and if Israel wants to go to war over it that's their prerogative. I'd rather Iran not have a nuke either.


Except that if Israel goes to war over it, that means that we go to war over it

Look at flight tracker. We are going to war over it.

We won't put boots on the ground unless Iran attacks our troops directly. If they're stupid enough to do that then they deserve what's coming. Otherwise, we'll just be supporting it like we support the Ukraine war. We give them weapons and intel. Israel does the fighting. I'm okay with that. Iran's already half beaten anyway.


So Israel will then attack our troops in a false flag, to goad the US.

Iran is holding off specifically for that reason. Israel is going to try to force the issue.

We have very good forensics. Israel is not gambling on a false flag operation when they don't need to. They're already winning.


So were there WMD? Or not?
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Post 06/16/2025 13:29     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

Israel is not our friend. Neither is AIPAC.
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Post 06/16/2025 13:25     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

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Anonymous wrote:I support Israel and its courage to do the necessary. Iran has to fall. I believe this is all done in agreement with the Western powers.
+1 Thwarting Iran from nuking Israel was necessary but takes courage. You cannot wait until your cities are vaporized before taking action. Israel learned a valuable lesson when it made a pre-emptive strike which neutralized Egypt’s air force thus preventing Egypy and its cowardly allies from gaining the upper hand in the region.


Because Israel having an upper hand in the region is so deserved and good for humanity? SMH.
Nobody in the region wants Iran to have a nuke, except maybe Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis.


Nobody wants Israel to have a nuke either.

Nobody wants North Korea to have a nuke either, but here we are. Doesn't mean Iran deserves to have a nuke, and if Israel wants to go to war over it that's their prerogative. I'd rather Iran not have a nuke either.


Except that if Israel goes to war over it, that means that we go to war over it

Look at flight tracker. We are going to war over it.

We won't put boots on the ground unless Iran attacks our troops directly. If they're stupid enough to do that then they deserve what's coming. Otherwise, we'll just be supporting it like we support the Ukraine war. We give them weapons and intel. Israel does the fighting. I'm okay with that. Iran's already half beaten anyway.


So Israel will then attack our troops in a false flag, to goad the US.

Iran is holding off specifically for that reason. Israel is going to try to force the issue.

We have very good forensics. Israel is not gambling on a false flag operation when they don't need to. They're already winning.
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Post 06/16/2025 13:16     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

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Anonymous wrote:I support Israel and its courage to do the necessary. Iran has to fall. I believe this is all done in agreement with the Western powers.
+1 Thwarting Iran from nuking Israel was necessary but takes courage. You cannot wait until your cities are vaporized before taking action. Israel learned a valuable lesson when it made a pre-emptive strike which neutralized Egypt’s air force thus preventing Egypy and its cowardly allies from gaining the upper hand in the region.


Because Israel having an upper hand in the region is so deserved and good for humanity? SMH.
Nobody in the region wants Iran to have a nuke, except maybe Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis.


Nobody wants Israel to have a nuke either.

Nobody wants North Korea to have a nuke either, but here we are. Doesn't mean Iran deserves to have a nuke, and if Israel wants to go to war over it that's their prerogative. I'd rather Iran not have a nuke either.


Except that if Israel goes to war over it, that means that we go to war over it

Look at flight tracker. We are going to war over it.

We won't put boots on the ground unless Iran attacks our troops directly. If they're stupid enough to do that then they deserve what's coming. Otherwise, we'll just be supporting it like we support the Ukraine war. We give them weapons and intel. Israel does the fighting. I'm okay with that. Iran's already half beaten anyway.


So Israel will then attack our troops in a false flag, to goad the US.

Iran is holding off specifically for that reason. Israel is going to try to force the issue.
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Post 06/16/2025 12:54     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

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Anonymous wrote:I support Israel and its courage to do the necessary. Iran has to fall. I believe this is all done in agreement with the Western powers.
+1 Thwarting Iran from nuking Israel was necessary but takes courage. You cannot wait until your cities are vaporized before taking action. Israel learned a valuable lesson when it made a pre-emptive strike which neutralized Egypt’s air force thus preventing Egypy and its cowardly allies from gaining the upper hand in the region.


Because Israel having an upper hand in the region is so deserved and good for humanity? SMH.
Nobody in the region wants Iran to have a nuke, except maybe Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis.


Nobody wants Israel to have a nuke either.

Nobody wants North Korea to have a nuke either, but here we are. Doesn't mean Iran deserves to have a nuke, and if Israel wants to go to war over it that's their prerogative. I'd rather Iran not have a nuke either.


Except that if Israel goes to war over it, that means that we go to war over it

Look at flight tracker. We are going to war over it.

We won't put boots on the ground unless Iran attacks our troops directly. If they're stupid enough to do that then they deserve what's coming. Otherwise, we'll just be supporting it like we support the Ukraine war. We give them weapons and intel. Israel does the fighting. I'm okay with that. Iran's already half beaten anyway.
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Post 06/16/2025 12:49     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

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Anonymous wrote:I support Israel and its courage to do the necessary. Iran has to fall. I believe this is all done in agreement with the Western powers.
+1 Thwarting Iran from nuking Israel was necessary but takes courage. You cannot wait until your cities are vaporized before taking action. Israel learned a valuable lesson when it made a pre-emptive strike which neutralized Egypt’s air force thus preventing Egypy and its cowardly allies from gaining the upper hand in the region.


Because Israel having an upper hand in the region is so deserved and good for humanity? SMH.
Nobody in the region wants Iran to have a nuke, except maybe Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis.


Nobody wants Israel to have a nuke either.

Nobody wants North Korea to have a nuke either, but here we are. Doesn't mean Iran deserves to have a nuke, and if Israel wants to go to war over it that's their prerogative. I'd rather Iran not have a nuke either.


Except that if Israel goes to war over it, that means that we go to war over it

Look at flight tracker. We are going to war over it.
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Post 06/16/2025 12:47     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

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Anonymous wrote:I support Israel and its courage to do the necessary. Iran has to fall. I believe this is all done in agreement with the Western powers.
+1 Thwarting Iran from nuking Israel was necessary but takes courage. You cannot wait until your cities are vaporized before taking action. Israel learned a valuable lesson when it made a pre-emptive strike which neutralized Egypt’s air force thus preventing Egypy and its cowardly allies from gaining the upper hand in the region.


Because Israel having an upper hand in the region is so deserved and good for humanity? SMH.
Nobody in the region wants Iran to have a nuke, except maybe Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis.


Nobody wants Israel to have a nuke either.

Nobody wants North Korea to have a nuke either, but here we are. Doesn't mean Iran deserves to have a nuke, and if Israel wants to go to war over it that's their prerogative. I'd rather Iran not have a nuke either.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2025 12:41     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

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Anonymous wrote:I support Israel and its courage to do the necessary. Iran has to fall. I believe this is all done in agreement with the Western powers.
+1 Thwarting Iran from nuking Israel was necessary but takes courage. You cannot wait until your cities are vaporized before taking action. Israel learned a valuable lesson when it made a pre-emptive strike which neutralized Egypt’s air force thus preventing Egypy and its cowardly allies from gaining the upper hand in the region.


Because Israel having an upper hand in the region is so deserved and good for humanity? SMH.
Nobody in the region wants Iran to have a nuke, except maybe Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis.


Nobody wants Israel to have a nuke either.
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Post 06/16/2025 12:36     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

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Anonymous wrote:I support Israel and its courage to do the necessary. Iran has to fall. I believe this is all done in agreement with the Western powers.
+1 Thwarting Iran from nuking Israel was necessary but takes courage. You cannot wait until your cities are vaporized before taking action. Israel learned a valuable lesson when it made a pre-emptive strike which neutralized Egypt’s air force thus preventing Egypy and its cowardly allies from gaining the upper hand in the region.


Because Israel having an upper hand in the region is so deserved and good for humanity? SMH.
Nobody in the region wants Iran to have a nuke, except maybe Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2025 12:28     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

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Anonymous wrote:I support Israel and its courage to do the necessary. Iran has to fall. I believe this is all done in agreement with the Western powers.
+1 Thwarting Iran from nuking Israel was necessary but takes courage. You cannot wait until your cities are vaporized before taking action. Israel learned a valuable lesson when it made a pre-emptive strike which neutralized Egypt’s air force thus preventing Egypy and its cowardly allies from gaining the upper hand in the region.


Because Israel having an upper hand in the region is so deserved and good for humanity? SMH.
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Post 06/16/2025 12:27     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

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Anonymous wrote:The myth of Israel being a victim is finally being shattered.


Yup, despite the fact that they assassinated almost every journalist in Gaza, don't let international journalist to go in independently, and the media is overwhelming repeating their talking points, people are finally seeing the true nature of Israel that it is and has been since it's inception.


Before its inception really. Have to remember King David hotel and all that.


true, Iran has never assassinated anyone:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_assassinations


Israel killed a lot more people in the King David hotel bombing than Iran has in its entire history per your list. Iran also seems to go after its dissidents. Israel doesn't care if you're Israeli, Palestinian, Iranian, British, American, Syrian, etc..

Its absolutely clear which is the destabilizing force for the region. Its a testament to Israeli control of media that anyone thinks otherwise.


You’re aware that Israel didn’t exist at the time of the King David Hotel bombing, right?

Oops.


You’re aware the Irgun bombed the hotel? Jewish terror groups are the first terror groups in the area. They brought terror to the region

The formation of the Jewish militias were a direct response to escalating violence against Jewish communities during the early 20th century, notably after the 1920 Nebi Musa riots, the 1921 Jaffa riots, and the 1929 Hebron massacre. The Muslims weren’t innocent bystanders.


In 1909, an organization called Hashomer (the Guardian) was founded by Yitzhak Ben Zvi and David Ben-Gurion as the first paramilitary formation which raised the slogan “Judaea was lost by blood and fire and will rise again by blood and fire.”

The Arab population felt threatened as early as the 1880s with the arrival of the first aliyah. The Arab population in the Palestine region began protesting against the acquisition of lands by the Jewish population. As a result, the Ottoman authorities banned land sales to foreigners in 1892. Clearly, tensions were already high.

Here's a link to an archived newspaper article dated April 18, 1908 which described a riot in Jaffa that led to the hospitalization and injuries of 13 Jews. The Arabs tried to burn down the hotel they were hiding in.

https://www.nli.org.il/en/newspapers/refadv/1908/04/18/01/article/11/?e=-------en-20--1--img-txIN%7CtxTI--------------1

Attacks on Jewish communities rose even more following the 1908 Young Turks Revolt. The Hashomer formed the following year in response to the ongoing violence. The Hashomer itself never numbered more than 100 members. They eventually fell out of favor with settlements for their policies and were replaced by the Haganah.

There was no single Zionist stance toward the local Arab population and no unified plan to push the Arabs out by force. Rather, views differed markedly across the movement. Case in point Theodor Herzl, one of the early thought leaders, did not foresee any conflict between Jews and Arabs. Herzl wanted to win over non-Jewish opinion for Zionism. He thought a rising economic tide would lift all boats. He imagined a society where Jews and Arabs could coexist peacefully, with Arabs enjoying equal rights and improved living standards.

Nobody gives an effing crap about what was what in 1908. I suppose you support the Russian invasion in Ukraine as Ukraine never existed as a country until the 1990s.
You are too stupid for words, Giselle.

Sure, it's ancient history just like the Nakba forty years later. Yet, some people can't move on. Point being, the Arabs were not innocent victims in all of this. No, this was a tit for tat, back and forth escalation. It’d be great if we could all just move forward, but honestly, that kind of peace never really existed. There’s no meaningful history of sustained harmony between Arabs and Jews in the region, and it's one of the biggest problems with the idea of a one state solution. There's not much evidence to suggest it's possible. The veto of violence is too strong.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2025 12:25     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

Anonymous wrote:I support Israel and its courage to do the necessary. Iran has to fall. I believe this is all done in agreement with the Western powers.
+1 Thwarting Iran from nuking Israel was necessary but takes courage. You cannot wait until your cities are vaporized before taking action. Israel learned a valuable lesson when it made a pre-emptive strike which neutralized Egypt’s air force thus preventing Egypy and its cowardly allies from gaining the upper hand in the region.
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Post 06/16/2025 12:24     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

I do not think Israel has gone too far. They kicked the hell out of Iran’s proxies and now are beating up the actual bully.

I hope Israel gets at least 3-4 weeks of beating on Iran before the US calls them off.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2025 12:23     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

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Anonymous wrote:I was horrified to read that 56,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israel since the start of the war. However much that Israel may have had the moral upper hand at the start of the conflict, they've long lost it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/16/world/middleeast/france-israel-macron-palestinian-state.html
Mr. Macron — outraged, like much of the world, by the almost 56,000 Palestinians killed by Israel in Gaza since the start of the war, and by its near or total blockade of the strip in recent months — has spoken of “a moral duty and political requirement” to recognize a Palestinian state.


Israel has never had the moral high ground. Look at how many Palestinians were killed from Jan-Oct 7th. Plus Israel stole the land. In what world is that the moral high ground?

A Judeo-Christian world that brainwashes its people to believe that Israel has the right to the land because some book written thousands of years ago says so.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2025 12:20     Subject: Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

Anonymous wrote:I support Israel and its courage to do the necessary. Iran has to fall. I believe this is all done in agreement with the Western powers.

Did Iran ever attack the US? No.