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Anonymous wrote:Del Ray used to be cool and arty and then it sold out. Now it is a wanna-be old town and as boring as a suburb but with poorer schools.

Is there a grand conspiracy going on where every thread about NoVA somehow turns into a Del Ray hate fest?

It's part of the broader conspiracy to denigrate all neighborhoods South of Rte 50 which was historically the dividing line between white and black areas. This idiotic exercise is a dog whistle for whites-only neighborhoods.

Del ray and route 50 have little to no connection.

Also, most of Del ray is a historically white area.

Interestingly, a lot of what is regarded as old town now was historically black and very poor. Old timers in Alexandria took a LONG time, maybe the 80s before warming up to the idea that old town had changed.

Del Ray is South of Rte 50 last time I checked.

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Anonymous wrote:Shitposting at its finest. This list isn't altogether wrong but who cares, it doesn't correlate with quality of life, quality of neighbors, value or a ton of other metrics.

It's a great roadmap to the whitest areas in Nova. I'm sure the hardcore racists will love being neighbors with white supremacist Jared Taylor who lives in Oakton, and his ilk sprinkled throughout these areas. VA was a slave state, late to desegregate, and klan friendly. The years march on, but underlying sentiment doesn't change much.

Have you put your money where your mouth is and invested in real estate in neighborhoods with 50-75%+ Latino and Black populations?

This comment is precious. Show me one zip code inside the beltway that is 50% or more Latino. They don't exist. Streets, neighborhoods, and communities with Latino residents--yes. Westover in Arlington is literally a mix of multimillion dollar homes and low income garden apartments and duplexes and people are fighting to live there. Everyone on DCUM disparages Lake Barcroft like it's in the middle of Compton or Watts, but that's far from true. I think the reality is that whites here want to be with other whites, and they tolerate wealthy, educated Indians despite massive cultural differences, caste prejudices, and rampant misogyny.

22304 and 22204 are both majority minority and very expansive zip codes

The PP posed this question: Have you put your money where your mouth is and invested in real estate in neighborhoods with 50-75%+ Latino and Black populations?

The only possible areas to hit that threshold of 50-75% Latino and Black might be somewhere in Alexandria outside of Old Town.

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Anonymous wrote:Del Ray used to be cool and arty and then it sold out. Now it is a wanna-be old town and as boring as a suburb but with poorer schools.

Is there a grand conspiracy going on where every thread about NoVA somehow turns into a Del Ray hate fest?

It's part of the broader conspiracy to denigrate all neighborhoods South of Rte 50 which was historically the dividing line between white and black areas. This idiotic exercise is a dog whistle for whites-only neighborhoods.

Del ray and route 50 have little to no connection.

Also, most of Del ray is a historically white area.

Interestingly, a lot of what is regarded as old town now was historically black and very poor. Old timers in Alexandria took a LONG time, maybe the 80s before warming up to the idea that old town had changed.

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Anonymous wrote:Shitposting at its finest. This list isn't altogether wrong but who cares, it doesn't correlate with quality of life, quality of neighbors, value or a ton of other metrics.

It's a great roadmap to the whitest areas in Nova. I'm sure the hardcore racists will love being neighbors with white supremacist Jared Taylor who lives in Oakton, and his ilk sprinkled throughout these areas. VA was a slave state, late to desegregate, and klan friendly. The years march on, but underlying sentiment doesn't change much.

Have you put your money where your mouth is and invested in real estate in neighborhoods with 50-75%+ Latino and Black populations?

This comment is precious. Show me one zip code inside the beltway that is 50% or more Latino. They don't exist. Streets, neighborhoods, and communities with Latino residents--yes. Westover in Arlington is literally a mix of multimillion dollar homes and low income garden apartments and duplexes and people are fighting to live there. Everyone on DCUM disparages Lake Barcroft like it's in the middle of Compton or Watts, but that's far from true. I think the reality is that whites here want to be with other whites, and they tolerate wealthy, educated Indians despite massive cultural differences, caste prejudices, and rampant misogyny.

22304 and 22204 are both majority minority and very expansive zip codes

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Anonymous wrote:Shitposting at its finest. This list isn't altogether wrong but who cares, it doesn't correlate with quality of life, quality of neighbors, value or a ton of other metrics.

It's a great roadmap to the whitest areas in Nova. I'm sure the hardcore racists will love being neighbors with white supremacist Jared Taylor who lives in Oakton, and his ilk sprinkled throughout these areas. VA was a slave state, late to desegregate, and klan friendly. The years march on, but underlying sentiment doesn't change much.

Have you put your money where your mouth is and invested in real estate in neighborhoods with 50-75%+ Latino and Black populations?

This comment is precious. Show me one zip code inside the beltway that is 50% or more Latino. They don't exist. Streets, neighborhoods, and communities with Latino residents--yes. Westover in Arlington is literally a mix of multimillion dollar homes and low income garden apartments and duplexes and people are fighting to live there. Everyone on DCUM disparages Lake Barcroft like it's in the middle of Compton or Watts, but that's far from true. I think the reality is that whites here want to be with other whites, and they tolerate wealthy, educated Indians despite massive cultural differences, caste prejudices, and rampant misogyny.

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Anonymous wrote:Del Ray used to be cool and arty and then it sold out. Now it is a wanna-be old town and as boring as a suburb but with poorer schools.

Is there a grand conspiracy going on where every thread about NoVA somehow turns into a Del Ray hate fest?

It's part of the broader conspiracy to denigrate all neighborhoods South of Rte 50 which was historically the dividing line between white and black areas. This idiotic exercise is a dog whistle for whites-only neighborhoods.

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Anonymous wrote:The real NoVA prestige ranking from real NoVA insiders

T1
- Tysons (convenient, booming development, concentrated wealth, Cap1)
- Del Ray (proximity to DC, local charm, JD Vance + other celebrity residents)

T2
- Great Falls (old money, estates)
- Old Town, Rosemont, Beverly Hills (cultured, pedigreed owners)
- Arlington - Clarendon-Ballston Corridor (Walkable, up and coming, food, proximity to DC)

T3
- McLa(m)e (chopped up, pastiche of 60s-80s homes well past their prime, traffic)
- Arlington - everywhere else (disconnected, patchy, some nice places)
- Fairfax (Vienna, Oakton, etc. - hardcore suburbs)
- Centreville (good food but too far)

T4
- Loudon county (data centers as neighbors)
- Manassas (peaceful but civil war ghosts)
- Burke (nice lake, too far)

Dumpster
- Route 1 alexandria
- Everywhere else

This has to be a comedy post. Clarendon-Ballston corridor up and coming? Maybe 25 years ago. Haha.

Route 1 from amazon to fort Belvoir is being bulldozed and redone over next 4 yrs. 1 billion invested so far. Many business are now bought/boarded up and being flattened. Will be interesting if they pull it off.

I live off route 1 (and DGAF about its tier). It has been interesting how much they are building over here - I was surprised at how many ‘nice’ businesses have opened and are opening nearby (a first watch, a club Pilates, Orangetheory, etc.) I am not a fan of the dumpy garden style apartments and wish they would raise them, but you do have most everything you need close by.

22309 here. I am waiting for the board of supervisors to put some pressure on the trailer parks. That's when it will become interesting. That signaled the beginning of the end for Penn Daw, now called King's Crossing.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/planning-development/sites/planning-development/files/Assets/Documents/compplanamend/manufactured-housing/Penn-Daw-one-pager.pdf

Penn daw trailer park is gone!?

Why are they trying to preserve a trailer park, that is the dumbest idea I have heard of and clearly people supporting this policy know nothing about trailer parks. This sounds like something out of a Portlandia episode rather than a real policy from Fairfax County. Trailer parks are basically financial traps for low income people where they are stuck paying increasing rent for land on a prefabricated house (they own) which is usually unable to be moved. It is a financially worse deal than either renting or buying something where you actually own the land under your home.

Cheap, relatively high density housing, close to higher paying employment. I don’t want to pay my landscaper, housekeeper, trash man, or cafeteria worker to commute 2 hours from some far flung place (that very well could also be a trailer park). Having them closer maximizes their take home pay and keeps costs lower.

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Anonymous wrote:I think a zip code ranking is more precise:

1. 22066 - Great Falls
2. 22101 - McLean
3. 22027- Dunn Loring (Up and coming with all the new builds)
4. 22207 - North Arlington
5. 22124 - Oakton
6. 22039 - Fairfax Station
7. 20124 - Clifton - Yup. CLIFTON is nice!
8. 22182- Vienna/Tysons area
9. 22181- Vienna
10. 20148 - Ashburn

Bottom Tier:

1. 22041- Bailey's Crossroads
2. 22044 - Lake Barcroft/Seven Corners
3. 22305 - Del Ray
4. 22304 - Landmark
5. 22312 - Lincolnia (Alexandria)

22101 is more prestigious than 22066

22101 segmentation needs to be more refined.

1. Compound country (north of GW Parkway along Chain Bridge Road---foreign diplomats, Sunday morning talk show crowd, intelligence safe houses)
2. Real Langley (Hickory Hill - south of the Pike and north of Dolly Madison---old money Mclean--limited housing stock)
3. Salona Village / Potomac School (CEOs and law firm managing partners)
4. Other Langley (north of Pike and east of Ridge -transition area with scraper lots and new building stock for parents seeking Langley HS access)
5. East Mclean (east of Kirby and close to Glebe ---goal is to be near Chain Bridge for DC private school access)
6. Churchill Road area south of the Pike (mixed bag but improving ---Langley starter houses)
7. Central Mclean (south of Chain Bridge road, west of Kirby and east of Old Dominion ---lots of scraping and rebuild with high variation in house styles)

Anonymous wrote:City of Fairfax below Manassas??? What? Just look at the average income of residents in each.

If just income, just use the census information to order the communities.

This thread is really stupid and reflects the insecurity of the posters. I like my home and it is in one of the lesser communities according to this list. But it is quiet, low-crime, and backs to parkland. Quite nice. All the things I need are nearby. Reasonable commute.

City of Fairfax below Manassas??? What? Just look at the average income of residents in each.

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Anonymous wrote:The real NoVA prestige ranking from real NoVA insiders

T1
- Tysons (convenient, booming development, concentrated wealth, Cap1)
- Del Ray (proximity to DC, local charm, JD Vance + other celebrity residents)

T2
- Great Falls (old money, estates)
- Old Town, Rosemont, Beverly Hills (cultured, pedigreed owners)
- Arlington - Clarendon-Ballston Corridor (Walkable, up and coming, food, proximity to DC)

T3
- McLa(m)e (chopped up, pastiche of 60s-80s homes well past their prime, traffic)
- Arlington - everywhere else (disconnected, patchy, some nice places)
- Fairfax (Vienna, Oakton, etc. - hardcore suburbs)
- Centreville (good food but too far)

T4
- Loudon county (data centers as neighbors)
- Manassas (peaceful but civil war ghosts)
- Burke (nice lake, too far)

Dumpster
- Route 1 alexandria
- Everywhere else

This has to be a comedy post. Clarendon-Ballston corridor up and coming? Maybe 25 years ago. Haha.

Route 1 from amazon to fort Belvoir is being bulldozed and redone over next 4 yrs. 1 billion invested so far. Many business are now bought/boarded up and being flattened. Will be interesting if they pull it off.

I live off route 1 (and DGAF about its tier). It has been interesting how much they are building over here - I was surprised at how many ‘nice’ businesses have opened and are opening nearby (a first watch, a club Pilates, Orangetheory, etc.) I am not a fan of the dumpy garden style apartments and wish they would raise them, but you do have most everything you need close by.

22309 here. I am waiting for the board of supervisors to put some pressure on the trailer parks. That's when it will become interesting. That signaled the beginning of the end for Penn Daw, now called King's Crossing.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/planning-development/sites/planning-development/files/Assets/Documents/compplanamend/manufactured-housing/Penn-Daw-one-pager.pdf

Penn daw trailer park is gone!?

Why are they trying to preserve a trailer park, that is the dumbest idea I have heard of and clearly people supporting this policy know nothing about trailer parks. This sounds like something out of a Portlandia episode rather than a real policy from Fairfax County. Trailer parks are basically financial traps for low income people where they are stuck paying increasing rent for land on a prefabricated house (they own) which is usually unable to be moved. It is a financially worse deal than either renting or buying something where you actually own the land under your home.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real NoVA prestige ranking from real NoVA insiders

T1
- Tysons (convenient, booming development, concentrated wealth, Cap1)
- Del Ray (proximity to DC, local charm, JD Vance + other celebrity residents)

T2
- Great Falls (old money, estates)
- Old Town, Rosemont, Beverly Hills (cultured, pedigreed owners)
- Arlington - Clarendon-Ballston Corridor (Walkable, up and coming, food, proximity to DC)

T3
- McLa(m)e (chopped up, pastiche of 60s-80s homes well past their prime, traffic)
- Arlington - everywhere else (disconnected, patchy, some nice places)
- Fairfax (Vienna, Oakton, etc. - hardcore suburbs)
- Centreville (good food but too far)

T4
- Loudon county (data centers as neighbors)
- Manassas (peaceful but civil war ghosts)
- Burke (nice lake, too far)

Dumpster
- Route 1 alexandria
- Everywhere else

This has to be a comedy post. Clarendon-Ballston corridor up and coming? Maybe 25 years ago. Haha.

Route 1 from amazon to fort Belvoir is being bulldozed and redone over next 4 yrs. 1 billion invested so far. Many business are now bought/boarded up and being flattened. Will be interesting if they pull it off.

I live off route 1 (and DGAF about its tier). It has been interesting how much they are building over here - I was surprised at how many ‘nice’ businesses have opened and are opening nearby (a first watch, a club Pilates, Orangetheory, etc.) I am not a fan of the dumpy garden style apartments and wish they would raise them, but you do have most everything you need close by.

The garden apartments are suppose to be torn down along with the old motels.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real NoVA prestige ranking from real NoVA insiders

T1
- Tysons (convenient, booming development, concentrated wealth, Cap1)
- Del Ray (proximity to DC, local charm, JD Vance + other celebrity residents)

T2
- Great Falls (old money, estates)
- Old Town, Rosemont, Beverly Hills (cultured, pedigreed owners)
- Arlington - Clarendon-Ballston Corridor (Walkable, up and coming, food, proximity to DC)

T3
- McLa(m)e (chopped up, pastiche of 60s-80s homes well past their prime, traffic)
- Arlington - everywhere else (disconnected, patchy, some nice places)
- Fairfax (Vienna, Oakton, etc. - hardcore suburbs)
- Centreville (good food but too far)

T4
- Loudon county (data centers as neighbors)
- Manassas (peaceful but civil war ghosts)
- Burke (nice lake, too far)

Dumpster
- Route 1 alexandria
- Everywhere else

This has to be a comedy post. Clarendon-Ballston corridor up and coming? Maybe 25 years ago. Haha.

Route 1 from amazon to fort Belvoir is being bulldozed and redone over next 4 yrs. 1 billion invested so far. Many business are now bought/boarded up and being flattened. Will be interesting if they pull it off.

I live off route 1 (and DGAF about its tier). It has been interesting how much they are building over here - I was surprised at how many ‘nice’ businesses have opened and are opening nearby (a first watch, a club Pilates, Orangetheory, etc.) I am not a fan of the dumpy garden style apartments and wish they would raise them, but you do have most everything you need close by.

22309 here. I am waiting for the board of supervisors to put some pressure on the trailer parks. That's when it will become interesting. That signaled the beginning of the end for Penn Daw, now called King's Crossing.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/planning-development/sites/planning-development/files/Assets/Documents/compplanamend/manufactured-housing/Penn-Daw-one-pager.pdf

Penn daw trailer park is gone!?

Not yet, but the county has a "plan" to help them relocate.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real NoVA prestige ranking from real NoVA insiders

T1
- Tysons (convenient, booming development, concentrated wealth, Cap1)
- Del Ray (proximity to DC, local charm, JD Vance + other celebrity residents)

T2
- Great Falls (old money, estates)
- Old Town, Rosemont, Beverly Hills (cultured, pedigreed owners)
- Arlington - Clarendon-Ballston Corridor (Walkable, up and coming, food, proximity to DC)

T3
- McLa(m)e (chopped up, pastiche of 60s-80s homes well past their prime, traffic)
- Arlington - everywhere else (disconnected, patchy, some nice places)
- Fairfax (Vienna, Oakton, etc. - hardcore suburbs)
- Centreville (good food but too far)

T4
- Loudon county (data centers as neighbors)
- Manassas (peaceful but civil war ghosts)
- Burke (nice lake, too far)

Dumpster
- Route 1 alexandria
- Everywhere else

This has to be a comedy post. Clarendon-Ballston corridor up and coming? Maybe 25 years ago. Haha.

Route 1 from amazon to fort Belvoir is being bulldozed and redone over next 4 yrs. 1 billion invested so far. Many business are now bought/boarded up and being flattened. Will be interesting if they pull it off.

I live off route 1 (and DGAF about its tier). It has been interesting how much they are building over here - I was surprised at how many ‘nice’ businesses have opened and are opening nearby (a first watch, a club Pilates, Orangetheory, etc.) I am not a fan of the dumpy garden style apartments and wish they would raise them, but you do have most everything you need close by.

22309 here. I am waiting for the board of supervisors to put some pressure on the trailer parks. That's when it will become interesting. That signaled the beginning of the end for Penn Daw, now called King's Crossing.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/planning-development/sites/planning-development/files/Assets/Documents/compplanamend/manufactured-housing/Penn-Daw-one-pager.pdf

Penn daw trailer park is gone!?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real NoVA prestige ranking from real NoVA insiders

T1
- Tysons (convenient, booming development, concentrated wealth, Cap1)
- Del Ray (proximity to DC, local charm, JD Vance + other celebrity residents)

T2
- Great Falls (old money, estates)
- Old Town, Rosemont, Beverly Hills (cultured, pedigreed owners)
- Arlington - Clarendon-Ballston Corridor (Walkable, up and coming, food, proximity to DC)

T3
- McLa(m)e (chopped up, pastiche of 60s-80s homes well past their prime, traffic)
- Arlington - everywhere else (disconnected, patchy, some nice places)
- Fairfax (Vienna, Oakton, etc. - hardcore suburbs)
- Centreville (good food but too far)

T4
- Loudon county (data centers as neighbors)
- Manassas (peaceful but civil war ghosts)
- Burke (nice lake, too far)

Dumpster
- Route 1 alexandria
- Everywhere else

This has to be a comedy post. Clarendon-Ballston corridor up and coming? Maybe 25 years ago. Haha.

Route 1 from amazon to fort Belvoir is being bulldozed and redone over next 4 yrs. 1 billion invested so far. Many business are now bought/boarded up and being flattened. Will be interesting if they pull it off.

I live off route 1 (and DGAF about its tier). It has been interesting how much they are building over here - I was surprised at how many ‘nice’ businesses have opened and are opening nearby (a first watch, a club Pilates, Orangetheory, etc.) I am not a fan of the dumpy garden style apartments and wish they would raise them, but you do have most everything you need close by.

22309 here. I am waiting for the board of supervisors to put some pressure on the trailer parks. That's when it will become interesting. That signaled the beginning of the end for Penn Daw, now called King's Crossing.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/planning-development/sites/planning-development/files/Assets/Documents/compplanamend/manufactured-housing/Penn-Daw-one-pager.pdf