Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 19:20     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Judge has blocked his deportation

https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judge-blocks-trump-administration-from-deporting-pro-palestinian-activist-mahmoud-khalil-203724926.html


No he hasn't. This judge has no jurisdiction over Khalil.


LOL, did you go to the Trump University Law School?

Jesse Furman from the Southern District of New York doesn't have jurisdiction to hear a habeas petition of someone being held in Louisiana.


Khalil's lawyers have evidence that the government transferred him to Louisiana AFTER the habeas petition was filed in New York.



Of course they moved him after the fact

They didn't even know he had a visa (dimwit, did DOGE fire the person who would've looked this up for them)

Now they know this guy has rights here so they try to shuffle him off to a Trump loving judge.

Classic dictator moves
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 19:16     Subject: Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I guess the MAGAs here are fine with the next Dem president shipping all the MAGAs off to Guantanamo without cause or issue, right?


99% of people are perfectly fine with the deportation of violent Hamas terrorists whose sole goal is the eradication of the Jewish race.


I'd say 99.9%. The remaining 0.1% are here on DCUM!


Well too bad that is not what he is. He is out spoken against Israel. If you are arresting people for that you have to arrest 99.9% of the population.

Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 19:15     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Speech isn't free from consequences. Sounds like he FAFO.

Well done by the Trump administration, perfectly justified


The whole point of Free Speech is those consequences can’t come from the government.

Just admit that you hate the First Amendment.


Assaulting people is not free speech, but you know that.

I explained a very basic part of the First Amendment, and you moved the goal posts to assault? Predictable.


You say he’s deported for utilizing his free speech rights, and you’re wrong. He assaulted someone, that’s not free speech.


Who did he assault? When and how? And if so, why wasn't he charged with a crime?
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 19:14     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Judge has blocked his deportation

https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judge-blocks-trump-administration-from-deporting-pro-palestinian-activist-mahmoud-khalil-203724926.html


No he hasn't. This judge has no jurisdiction over Khalil.


LOL, did you go to the Trump University Law School?

Jesse Furman from the Southern District of New York doesn't have jurisdiction to hear a habeas petition of someone being held in Louisiana.


Khalil's lawyers have evidence that the government transferred him to Louisiana AFTER the habeas petition was filed in New York.

Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 19:13     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech
Anonymous wrote:I’m ok with him being deported.

He was handing out Hamas propaganda.

When was that ever ok on US soil.

Bye bye.


Free Palestine is Hamas propoganda now? Do you say that to the Pope? Is he a Hamas ally too? What about Jews for peace on campus? They’re also Hamas right?
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 18:57     Subject: Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t matter. Run of the mill green card applicants wait years to get their cards approve. The slightest whiff of anything leads to a rejection. He is never getting his conditional green card switched to a permanent green card, which means he will have to leave. This is separate from his rights etc etc.


I dunno what you're talking about, marriage-based green cards are typically sorted out in 14 to 24 months. It's definitely not "years". And it's not "the slightest whiff", as marriage to a US citizen typically clears away most things that would bar admission, for instance, working without permission.


Marriage based green cards start off as a conditional green card approval for two years. So you get to stay for two years. After two years you have to file to get conditions lifted and a permanent green card. To do that the couple still have to go to interview and show they have a real marriage. You see people stressing out over the smallest things at this point to ace this interview. No immigration officer is going to lift conditions on his conditional green card.


Yes, I was going to bring this up as my DH and I went through this process after we got married. They specifically ask on the petition to remove conditions if the applicant has ever been arrested, detained, indicted, charged, fined or imprisoned for breaking or violating any law or ordinance.....etc. They have to provide documentation related to the charges. This would make it easier because the authorities wouldn't have to revoke his Green Card, they would just let it expire without the conditions removed.

I haven't been following this closely so I really don't know what he did or didn't do, but to get involved in somethiing that could lead to arrest when you're on a conditional GC is not wise. As a PP said, we were also told that my DH shouldn't even get a traffic ticket while he was on conditional GC status!


Well, that's the issue here, I guess. The articles say he hasn't been charged with any crime.

So if all he did was ATTEND a protest (Constitutional Right to Assemble, right to free speech) - that is not illegal, right?

So why was he detained?

If the reason is "You aren't allowed to protest in defense of XYZ people..." that's really bad. That violates his right to free speech.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 18:56     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Speech isn't free from consequences. Sounds like he FAFO.

Well done by the Trump administration, perfectly justified


The whole point of Free Speech is those consequences can’t come from the government.

Just admit that you hate the First Amendment.


Assaulting people is not free speech, but you know that.

I explained a very basic part of the First Amendment, and you moved the goal posts to assault? Predictable.


You say he’s deported for utilizing his free speech rights, and you’re wrong. He assaulted someone, that’s not free speech.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 18:54     Subject: Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the left in this country cries so much for anti-nationals and foreign invaders who don't love our country. This person hates America, and he probably would love it as his dreamland if we followed the Sharia and fought with Israel.


You probably won't understand, but it is a third grade civics issue.

We all learn (or we should) that first amendment rights must be protected, no matter what the person is saying or protesting.

That's why liberals will defend the right for horrible people (like Nazis) to assemble and parade.

That's not to say we will be happy about it, and we might boycott shops that cater to Nazis or even yell at them while they are having a parade. But we agree that they have a legal right to assemble and to not have their speech suppressed by the government.

We don't award first amendment rights only to some people (who love the right things). It has to apply to all people, and we need to protect that right.

If you didn't learn that in third grade social studies, please go back to school and learn why it is important.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 18:54     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Judge has blocked his deportation

https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judge-blocks-trump-administration-from-deporting-pro-palestinian-activist-mahmoud-khalil-203724926.html


No he hasn't. This judge has no jurisdiction over Khalil.


LOL, did you go to the Trump University Law School?

Jesse Furman from the Southern District of New York doesn't have jurisdiction to hear a habeas petition of someone being held in Louisiana.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 18:53     Subject: Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I guess the MAGAs here are fine with the next Dem president shipping all the MAGAs off to Guantanamo without cause or issue, right?


99% of people are perfectly fine with the deportation of violent Hamas terrorists whose sole goal is the eradication of the Jewish race.


I'd say 99.9%. The remaining 0.1% are here on DCUM!
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 18:44     Subject: Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech
Anonymous wrote:I guess the MAGAs here are fine with the next Dem president shipping all the MAGAs off to Guantanamo without cause or issue, right?


99% of people are perfectly fine with the deportation of violent Hamas terrorists whose sole goal is the eradication of the Jewish race.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 18:42     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech
According to above article

While U.S. law forbids anyone from providing “material support or resources” to terrorist organizations, a designation given to Hamas by the State Department in 1997, Khalil is not accused of doing that, and has not as yet been charged with any specific crime
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 18:40     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Judge has blocked his deportation

https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judge-blocks-trump-administration-from-deporting-pro-palestinian-activist-mahmoud-khalil-203724926.html


No he hasn't. This judge has no jurisdiction over Khalil.


LOL, did you go to the Trump University Law School?
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 18:40     Subject: Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech
I guess the MAGAs here are fine with the next Dem president shipping all the MAGAs off to Guantanamo without cause or issue, right?
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2025 18:39     Subject: Re:Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech
Anonymous wrote:Judge has blocked his deportation

https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judge-blocks-trump-administration-from-deporting-pro-palestinian-activist-mahmoud-khalil-203724926.html


No he hasn't. This judge has no jurisdiction over Khalil.