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Gossip from DD, lots of girls getting in ED engineering,

This would be good. Every young woman I know from TJ who went off to UVA ... did not end up in STEM. It's like UVA sucked all the ambition out of them.

I read something by Malcolm Gladwell about this idea. Hard to do STEM at an academic powerhouse.

The video of his lecture about this is online, search:
Malcolm Gladwell on why you should never study at an elite college, but should rather choose a college where you are sure you can be the top student in your program.

I think there’s a lot of truth to this. Go where your talents and academic strengths will stand out. Find mentors in your department who will use their connections to help you get ahead. I firmly believe it’s better to be a big fish in a small pond vs just one of many stellar students.

Professors at non-elite colleges do not have as good a set of connections to help you get ahead as do the professors at elite colleges. Professors at an elite school can get you an internship, a fellowship, or a job with a single phone call. Professors at Podunk State simply can't.

Ummmm, my professors didn't help me at all get a job. I did it myself and life turned out pretty great. Not their job to get your kid a job.

I found that the professors in my SLAC knew nothing about how the real world worked. No wonder so many of my classmates are living hand to mouth 35 years later. Many of them thought I was evil for going to law school.

Accepted. 4.39 GPA--but 3.95UW, 11 AP by end of senior year, 1510 SAT, leadership, through 5th level of language.

Those with a 4.1 aren't getting it because they rely heavily on transcript and grades. If you have a 4.1 weighted, that's not high enough unweighted for UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:3.9, 1600, national level ECs at a rigorous private school… rejected. We are furious!

Sure

Right? No way PP expected anyone to believe this, especially at a supposedly "rigorous" private.

it's true. UVA leans heavy on VA public school output; private school students are at a disadvantage for UVA. My son's college couselor told him to apply to Ivys and not UVA because of this. He didn't listen and was deferred.

My kids was accepted from a NOVA private school....I don't think it matters. Our school sends several to UVA every year.

1500, 4.3, 10 APs (all subjects at least 1, 4 years of language), lots of community involvement/EC's.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the percentage/number of deferred

I’m interested in this, too. DD was deferred in the ED round. UVA is/was her 1st choice, but now I’m excited for her to hear from other schools. I’m kind of glad that she’s no longer obligated to attend if accepted. One of her other applications may actually turn out to be better for her.

My son was deferred as well. I'm also curious how many deferrals were given.

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Anonymous wrote:3.9, 1600, national level ECs at a rigorous private school… rejected. We are furious!

Sure

Right? No way PP expected anyone to believe this, especially at a supposedly "rigorous" private.

it's true. UVA leans heavy on VA public school output; private school students are at a disadvantage for UVA. My son's college couselor told him to apply to Ivys and not UVA because of this. He didn't listen and was deferred.

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Anonymous wrote:So no one got in ED? Because almost no stats were posted here.

Can someone link the correct Reddit thread? I can’t seem to find the right one with actual stats.

My son was deferred for ED at UVA. He's remaining hopeful because according to the scattergram, he only had a 10% chance of getting in.

People got in (my kid did) but this thread is such a disaster that I think most people don't want to post. It is a shame the thread went off the rails. It was helpful in the past when ours was figuring out where to apply.

I will post just in case the information is useful to others.

FCPS
3.9/4.3 GPA
1570 SAT
13 APs (6 senior year) in all core subjects and 5 years of language
Average ECs

Anonymous wrote:3.9, 1600, national level ECs at a rigorous private school… rejected. We are furious!

I hear you! 4.15, 33 ACT, 13 APs at a rigorous DC high school. DEFERRED.

UVA leans heavy on public schools.

Anonymous wrote:Son was denied. 1550 SAT, 4.2 GPA at Briar Woods.

My son was deferred from Gonzaga. 33 ACT, 4.15 GPA, 13 APS, fluent in spanish, took Calc BC as a Junior. We knew it was a reach, according to the scattergram, so being deferred was decent. A little disappointed but not devastated.

Your son's SAT score is amazing!!

Anonymous wrote:So no one got in ED? Because almost no stats were posted here.

Can someone link the correct Reddit thread? I can’t seem to find the right one with actual stats.

My son was deferred for ED at UVA. He's remaining hopeful because according to the scattergram, he only had a 10% chance of getting in.

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Gossip from DD, lots of girls getting in ED engineering,

This would be good. Every young woman I know from TJ who went off to UVA ... did not end up in STEM. It's like UVA sucked all the ambition out of them.

I read something by Malcolm Gladwell about this idea. Hard to do STEM at an academic powerhouse.

The video of his lecture about this is online, search:
Malcolm Gladwell on why you should never study at an elite college, but should rather choose a college where you are sure you can be the top student in your program.

I think there’s a lot of truth to this. Go where your talents and academic strengths will stand out. Find mentors in your department who will use their connections to help you get ahead. I firmly believe it’s better to be a big fish in a small pond vs just one of many stellar students.

Professors at non-elite colleges do not have as good a set of connections to help you get ahead as do the professors at elite colleges. Professors at an elite school can get you an internship, a fellowship, or a job with a single phone call. Professors at Podunk State simply can't.

Ummmm, my professors didn't help me at all get a job. I did it myself and life turned out pretty great. Not their job to get your kid a job.

Ummmmm, I’m sorry your professors were either too insignificant to get you a job or didn’t regard you as worthy of such an effort. Glad it worked out for you anyway.

DP, but I went to Princeton and my undergraduate advisor had a Nobel prize. I still did my own job search and we got dinner less than a month ago. The insecurities in you are beaming.

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Gossip from DD, lots of girls getting in ED engineering,

This would be good. Every young woman I know from TJ who went off to UVA ... did not end up in STEM. It's like UVA sucked all the ambition out of them.

I read something by Malcolm Gladwell about this idea. Hard to do STEM at an academic powerhouse.

The video of his lecture about this is online, search:
Malcolm Gladwell on why you should never study at an elite college, but should rather choose a college where you are sure you can be the top student in your program.

I think there’s a lot of truth to this. Go where your talents and academic strengths will stand out. Find mentors in your department who will use their connections to help you get ahead. I firmly believe it’s better to be a big fish in a small pond vs just one of many stellar students.

Professors at non-elite colleges do not have as good a set of connections to help you get ahead as do the professors at elite colleges. Professors at an elite school can get you an internship, a fellowship, or a job with a single phone call. Professors at Podunk State simply can't.

SO don't go to "podunk state". There are many excellent schools, with connected professors at schools in the 25-100/150 range. It's not Harvard, or #500.

I’m embarrassed for you that you think this is a relevant response to what was said.

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Gossip from DD, lots of girls getting in ED engineering,

This would be good. Every young woman I know from TJ who went off to UVA ... did not end up in STEM. It's like UVA sucked all the ambition out of them.

I read something by Malcolm Gladwell about this idea. Hard to do STEM at an academic powerhouse.

The video of his lecture about this is online, search:
Malcolm Gladwell on why you should never study at an elite college, but should rather choose a college where you are sure you can be the top student in your program.

I think there’s a lot of truth to this. Go where your talents and academic strengths will stand out. Find mentors in your department who will use their connections to help you get ahead. I firmly believe it’s better to be a big fish in a small pond vs just one of many stellar students.

Professors at non-elite colleges do not have as good a set of connections to help you get ahead as do the professors at elite colleges. Professors at an elite school can get you an internship, a fellowship, or a job with a single phone call. Professors at Podunk State simply can't.

Ummmm, my professors didn't help me at all get a job. I did it myself and life turned out pretty great. Not their job to get your kid a job.

Ummmmm, I’m sorry your professors were either too insignificant to get you a job or didn’t regard you as worthy of such an effort. Glad it worked out for you anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:

Gossip from DD, lots of girls getting in ED engineering,

This would be good. Every young woman I know from TJ who went off to UVA ... did not end up in STEM. It's like UVA sucked all the ambition out of them.

I read something by Malcolm Gladwell about this idea. Hard to do STEM at an academic powerhouse.

The video of his lecture about this is online, search:
Malcolm Gladwell on why you should never study at an elite college, but should rather choose a college where you are sure you can be the top student in your program.

I think there’s a lot of truth to this. Go where your talents and academic strengths will stand out. Find mentors in your department who will use their connections to help you get ahead. I firmly believe it’s better to be a big fish in a small pond vs just one of many stellar students.

Professors at non-elite colleges do not have as good a set of connections to help you get ahead as do the professors at elite colleges. Professors at an elite school can get you an internship, a fellowship, or a job with a single phone call. Professors at Podunk State simply can't.

Ummmm, my professors didn't help me at all get a job. I did it myself and life turned out pretty great. Not their job to get your kid a job.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the percentage/number of deferred

I’m interested in this, too. DD was deferred in the ED round. UVA is/was her 1st choice, but now I’m excited for her to hear from other schools. I’m kind of glad that she’s no longer obligated to attend if accepted. One of her other applications may actually turn out to be better for her.

We are in the boat too. UVA is great, and it would have been nice not to have to think about this college crap anymore, but the idea of having choices is also nice.

Did UVA defer from ED to RD this year? I had a kid go through the process last year who did EA for UVA and they only accepted, waitlisted or rejected--no deferrals. I have a second child going through the process again next year and hope they keep the deferral vs just waitlist.

Yes, they added deferral back this year.

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Gossip from DD, lots of girls getting in ED engineering,

This would be good. Every young woman I know from TJ who went off to UVA ... did not end up in STEM. It's like UVA sucked all the ambition out of them.

I read something by Malcolm Gladwell about this idea. Hard to do STEM at an academic powerhouse.

The video of his lecture about this is online, search:
Malcolm Gladwell on why you should never study at an elite college, but should rather choose a college where you are sure you can be the top student in your program.

I think there’s a lot of truth to this. Go where your talents and academic strengths will stand out. Find mentors in your department who will use their connections to help you get ahead. I firmly believe it’s better to be a big fish in a small pond vs just one of many stellar students.

Professors at non-elite colleges do not have as good a set of connections to help you get ahead as do the professors at elite colleges. Professors at an elite school can get you an internship, a fellowship, or a job with a single phone call. Professors at Podunk State simply can't.

SO don't go to "podunk state". There are many excellent schools, with connected professors at schools in the 25-100/150 range. It's not Harvard, or #500.